mushrat Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 I have a buddy into blacksmithing. He's built himself several mobile fordges out of ammo cans. These suckers are nice. Now what if you could have a device that can sit of your stove, counter, deck, that was like a fire chamber for natural coals? start it up, put a few coals in and set up your hookah, come back in a very few minutes to ready to use coals. Kind of like a charcoal furnace that ran on mapp or butane..no more leaving the coals in a can on the stove or holding them with your tongs while you hit them with fire... He's going to build me a prototype in the near future...i'll let you know how it turns out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilotaku Posted November 19, 2005 Share Posted November 19, 2005 Me and a friend did something slightly similar to this. We got one of those miniature coleman stove assemblies that fit right onto the top of the butane tank, and we stuck our small charcoal pot onto this and it worked like a charm. We literally got one of those cheap camping pots and drilled holes into the bottom of it to make the pot itself. I'd definitaly like to see how your forge comes out mushrat, def keep us posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathuv Posted December 27, 2007 Share Posted December 27, 2007 a local hookah lounge has a sort of metal cylinder with 1 side cut open so he just piles coal in, sits a gas torch in front of it for about 15 mins and takes coal from it. the he adds more and it lights itself from the already glowing coal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaia.plateau Posted December 27, 2007 Share Posted December 27, 2007 No D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathuv Posted December 27, 2007 Share Posted December 27, 2007 QUOTE (gaia.plateau @ Dec 27 2007, 09:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>No D.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushrat Posted December 27, 2007 Author Share Posted December 27, 2007 That sounds cool..My friend still swears he's working on it...not holding me breath here mind you.astounded someone dug up a 2 year old thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathuv Posted December 27, 2007 Share Posted December 27, 2007 QUOTE (mushrat @ Dec 27 2007, 10:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>That sounds cool..My friend still swears he's working on it...not holding me breath here mind you.astounded someone dug up a 2 year old thread.well i searched "Mini Mya Acrylic" and this popped up thought it was cool so i posted.astounded someone replied to a post i made on a 2 year old thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
everydayshisha Posted December 27, 2007 Share Posted December 27, 2007 i did something similar for my fireplace. Its a charcoal holder made out of wire and a long handle. I just put it in the fireplace and have bulk coal red hot in less that 2 mins. Then i put some more in it and leave it outside the fire. In about 25mins the they are ready to use when the ones on the bowl die out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldog_916 Posted December 28, 2007 Share Posted December 28, 2007 I'd use a setup similar to the one lilotaku was talking about but instead of just putting a pot on the top of it, use a simple expandable vegetable steamer/strainer. Put it on top of the propane stove and allow it to heat up a bit put the coals in it and close the fins up to keep the heat circulating. Pack your bowl and smoke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushrat Posted December 28, 2007 Author Share Posted December 28, 2007 QUOTE (Bulldog_916 @ Dec 27 2007, 11:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I'd use a setup similar to the one lilotaku was talking about but instead of just putting a pot on the top of it, use a simple expandable vegetable steamer/strainer. Put it on top of the propane stove and allow it to heat up a bit put the coals in it and close the fins up to keep the heat circulating. Pack your bowl and smoke.Very nice...hadn't thought of that one either. How do they stand up to the direct heat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldog_916 Posted December 28, 2007 Share Posted December 28, 2007 The fins are never directly on the stove, so they dont wear out very fast. The bottom might singe, but it's stainless steel, should stand up for quite a while before any noticeable failure occurs such as cracking or wearing. Several dozen to maybe 100 plus uses would be my guess as long as you dont pile the coal up high in it to where the fins and hinges are exposed to direct heat all the time. The fins would be to retain the convection of the heat, not to suffer direct heat from the coals. If you use the jap easy lights or canaries you might just keep the fins open all the time and use the strainer as a cooker and just cook a good number of bars at a time. The easy light nature of them should reduce the time it takes for them to be ready and that reduces the wear on the steel. (I would think) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathuv Posted December 28, 2007 Share Posted December 28, 2007 QUOTE (Bulldog_916 @ Dec 28 2007, 05:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I'd use a setup similar to the one lilotaku was talking about but instead of just putting a pot on the top of it, use a simple expandable vegetable steamer/strainer. Put it on top of the propane stove and allow it to heat up a bit put the coals in it and close the fins up to keep the heat circulating. Pack your bowl and smoke.that would make a great outdoor coal carrier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hexa Posted December 29, 2007 Share Posted December 29, 2007 QUOTE (mushrat @ Nov 18 2005, 01:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I have a buddy into blacksmithing. He's built himself several mobile fordges out of ammo cans. These suckers are nice. Now what if you could have a device that can sit of your stove, counter, deck, that was like a fire chamber for natural coals? start it up, put a few coals in and set up your hookah, come back in a very few minutes to ready to use coals. Kind of like a charcoal furnace that ran on mapp or butane..no more leaving the coals in a can on the stove or holding them with your tongs while you hit them with fire... He's going to build me a prototype in the near future...i'll let you know how it turns out.i used to have a chiminia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASUSEAN1 Posted December 29, 2007 Share Posted December 29, 2007 i made a "cave" out of foil.. it has handles so you can pick it up and bring it to where u are smoking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushrat Posted December 29, 2007 Author Share Posted December 29, 2007 QUOTE (Bulldog_916 @ Dec 28 2007, 02:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>The fins are never directly on the stove, so they dont wear out very fast. The bottom might singe, but it's stainless steel, should stand up for quite a while before any noticeable failure occurs such as cracking or wearing. Several dozen to maybe 100 plus uses would be my guess as long as you dont pile the coal up high in it to where the fins and hinges are exposed to direct heat all the time. The fins would be to retain the convection of the heat, not to suffer direct heat from the coals. If you use the jap easy lights or canaries you might just keep the fins open all the time and use the strainer as a cooker and just cook a good number of bars at a time. The easy light nature of them should reduce the time it takes for them to be ready and that reduces the wear on the steel. (I would think)ah well, not quite heavy duty enough to use at the bar...but still a cool method for home use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathuv Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 QUOTE (mushrat @ Dec 29 2007, 06:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (Bulldog_916 @ Dec 28 2007, 02:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>The fins are never directly on the stove, so they dont wear out very fast. The bottom might singe, but it's stainless steel, should stand up for quite a while before any noticeable failure occurs such as cracking or wearing. Several dozen to maybe 100 plus uses would be my guess as long as you dont pile the coal up high in it to where the fins and hinges are exposed to direct heat all the time. The fins would be to retain the convection of the heat, not to suffer direct heat from the coals. If you use the jap easy lights or canaries you might just keep the fins open all the time and use the strainer as a cooker and just cook a good number of bars at a time. The easy light nature of them should reduce the time it takes for them to be ready and that reduces the wear on the steel. (I would think)ah well, not quite heavy duty enough to use at the bar...but still a cool method for home use.what do you use at the bar? One bar here uses a tea strainer the other bar carries the coal around in the tongs (erm....fitted carpet+quicklights do not match..i wonder how many burn holes there are in that place) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldog_916 Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 Why would any bar with electricity use quick lights? Hookah is always better with the naturals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathuv Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 QUOTE (Bulldog_916 @ Dec 30 2007, 11:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Why would any bar with electricity use quick lights? Hookah is always better with the naturals.no clue...ill ask next time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushrat Posted December 30, 2007 Author Share Posted December 30, 2007 (edited) QUOTE (mathuv @ Dec 30 2007, 03:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (mushrat @ Dec 29 2007, 06:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (Bulldog_916 @ Dec 28 2007, 02:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>The fins are never directly on the stove, so they dont wear out very fast. The bottom might singe, but it's stainless steel, should stand up for quite a while before any noticeable failure occurs such as cracking or wearing. Several dozen to maybe 100 plus uses would be my guess as long as you dont pile the coal up high in it to where the fins and hinges are exposed to direct heat all the time. The fins would be to retain the convection of the heat, not to suffer direct heat from the coals. If you use the jap easy lights or canaries you might just keep the fins open all the time and use the strainer as a cooker and just cook a good number of bars at a time. The easy light nature of them should reduce the time it takes for them to be ready and that reduces the wear on the steel. (I would think)ah well, not quite heavy duty enough to use at the bar...but still a cool method for home use.what do you use at the bar? One bar here uses a tea strainer the other bar carries the coal around in the tongs (erm....fitted carpet+quicklights do not match..i wonder how many burn holes there are in that place)I use extoicas and a 2 burner NFS rated hotplate. I put the coals directly on the burner coils. Which causes me to have to change the coils every 6-8 weeks but seems to be the fastest, easiest way to do it.I have a small cast iron cauldron I use to carry around the hot coals for re-coaling.All I need now is a Fez. Edited December 30, 2007 by mushrat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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