erufiku Posted April 25, 2008 Share Posted April 25, 2008 So I just opened a pack of Nakhla sweet melon a few days ago and so far it's been an epic failure. I haven't had problems with Nakhla for a while now, so I'm really baffled. Basically there is very little smoke from the baccy, and it's harsh most of the time. Any ideas what's wrong?My set-up:-large km with water + ice in the vase and ice chamber-standard glazed egyptian bowl-washable hose-2 coconaras/bowl-metal screen on top of reynold's hd foilI tried:-packing a lot, and packing a little-small holes/lot of them and large holes/less of them-adding a few drops of lemon juice to the bowl-shiny side up and down-acclimating for a couple of hours, stirring every half hour-windcover on/offI noticed if I don't put the metal screen on top of the foil the baccy starts automatically burning no matter how far from the centre the coals are. Any ideas? Everyone says it's an amazing flavor but I've had only shit sessions with it so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny_D Posted April 25, 2008 Share Posted April 25, 2008 (edited) More Heat.Try a 3rd piece of CocaNara.I use 3 pieces of Exotica on my traditional bowl!edit :- lol my 4,001st post and it's about Nahkla Edited April 25, 2008 by Johnny_D Nahkla Whore! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anxiety Posted April 25, 2008 Share Posted April 25, 2008 put the screen on firs then the foil over the screen..should manage the heat a bit better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erufiku Posted April 25, 2008 Author Share Posted April 25, 2008 3 coco's? i'll give it a try later on today...as for the screen, it's not a proper shisha screen but just something to put on top of the bowl so that the coals don't fall off when i have to move them far away from the centre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinamon Posted April 25, 2008 Share Posted April 25, 2008 i smoked nakhla sweet melon with my qt and mya bowl with one 3kings.packed bowl to the rim and it smoked great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoopy1966 Posted April 25, 2008 Share Posted April 25, 2008 Buy Tangiers Melon Blend and your troubles will be solved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarCuzz Posted April 26, 2008 Share Posted April 26, 2008 (edited) a metal screen AND tin foil? no, no, no! Edited April 26, 2008 by StarCuzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldog_916 Posted April 26, 2008 Share Posted April 26, 2008 Nothing but top sessions with nakhla sweet melon. I use 2 2" pieces of natural charcoal. WARM water. small holes. Thin foil. you're golden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilikemyusername Posted April 26, 2008 Share Posted April 26, 2008 good luck, i'm all out of ideas... oh, i've got one! do away with the foil, smoke like tombeik, it'll smoke nicely, wont taste or feel good but it'll smoke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waterboi Posted April 26, 2008 Share Posted April 26, 2008 Nakhla sweet melon is good! Def sounds like you need a little more heat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erufiku Posted April 26, 2008 Author Share Posted April 26, 2008 QUOTE (StarCuzz @ Apr 25 2008, 11:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>a metal screen AND tin foil? no, no, no! It's hard to explain... you know the the grill somebody posted a while back to help with heat management? Well, it's something like that. I'll try more heat and warm water tonight -- I've been using ice cold water before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seanij Posted April 26, 2008 Share Posted April 26, 2008 Erufiku, I hope you get it right!My friends are annoyed that I consistently order Sweet Melon from the local lounge, they want something different! XDIts a great taste.. like jolly ranchers <3Try overpacking slightly..and use more heat, Nakhla loves heat =] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erufiku Posted April 26, 2008 Author Share Posted April 26, 2008 QUOTE (Seanij @ Apr 26 2008, 01:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Erufiku, I hope you get it right!My friends are annoyed that I consistently order Sweet Melon from the local lounge, they want something different! XDIts a great taste.. like jolly ranchers <3Try overpacking slightly..and use more heat, Nakhla loves heat =]Thanks, I decided to give it a rest today and smoke Tangiers instead. But tomorrow... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathuv Posted April 26, 2008 Share Posted April 26, 2008 QUOTE (Seanij @ Apr 26 2008, 07:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Erufiku, I hope you get it right!My friends are annoyed that I consistently order Sweet Melon from the local lounge, they want something different! XDIts a great taste.. like jolly ranchers <3Try overpacking slightly..and use more heat, Nakhla loves heat =]you're a jolly rancher...fucking sweet melon all the time at least get it mixed with some mint nah i love tht stuff.erufiku, try packing it loosely to the rim, by loosely i mean seperate the tobacco leaves, pack lightly to the rim and foil. when a particular nakhla flavor burns, i always do this and it seems to help. also, if your tobacco is too dry you could try adding some glycerin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erufiku Posted April 26, 2008 Author Share Posted April 26, 2008 I don't think it's particularly dry, but then again it's not we either. Oily is the best word to describe it So, overpacking, packing lightly, underpacking, warm water, more heat... Trying all the variables should keep me occupied for a few days I guess that's the beauty of this hobby though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billy Posted April 26, 2008 Share Posted April 26, 2008 I used a Mya Bambino with 1 layer of foil and 1 quick light, I had no problems at all and lasted about 1 hour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldog_916 Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 I pack it to the rim. Dont over or under pack it. When you hear the sizzle immediately, you know you did good. Naturals naturals naturals. Use them. Did I mention using naturals? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathuv Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 QUOTE (Bulldog_916 @ Apr 27 2008, 08:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I pack it to the rim. Dont over or under pack it. When you hear the sizzle immediately, you know you did good. Naturals naturals naturals. Use them. Did I mention using naturals? oh.. i thought that just mean the coal touched the tobacco.. i wasnt aware that it was good :s it sizzles all the time for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erufiku Posted April 27, 2008 Author Share Posted April 27, 2008 I thought sizzling was a bad thing Looks like I was doing everything right... except for moving the damn coal when the tobacco began to sizzle OK loading up some sweet melon right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldog_916 Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 NOT without foil, always with foil, small thumbtack sized holes all over, there shouldnt be a quarter of an inch in any direction without a hole in it. I cant get the stuff to smoke wrong, that's how you know it's good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erufiku Posted April 28, 2008 Author Share Posted April 28, 2008 QUOTE (Bulldog_916 @ Apr 27 2008, 11:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>NOT without foil, always with foil, small thumbtack sized holes all over, there shouldnt be a quarter of an inch in any direction without a hole in it. I cant get the stuff to smoke wrong, that's how you know it's good.I donk know man, I smoke it over 10 times already and still not a single perfect session But that's the thing, sometimes if I can't get a flavor right I can smoke through a whole 250g without getting a perfect session. Like AW Orange Cream, bleh, still gives me a gag reflex just thinking about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erufiku Posted April 29, 2008 Author Share Posted April 29, 2008 Getting a really good session with Nakhla Melon + Mint mix. Trick was to use a *lot* of heat - 3 coconaras on a small-ish bowl. I thought it would just scorch the tabby but it's working perfectly - big bad Nakhla clouds.Thanks everyone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrekstafa Posted April 30, 2008 Share Posted April 30, 2008 overall naklha is not a very good brand...... cheap but not that great... id recommened switching tobacco......... try al facker or al waha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldog_916 Posted April 30, 2008 Share Posted April 30, 2008 I think it's one of the most flavorful out there at the moment. Not in all my time smoking shisha has that kind of flavor gotten to me. Even Tangiers has stiff competition from Nakhla in that regard. I dont remember ever being able to taste a flavor in my mouth, like I had just eaten some of it or drank a juice containing it. I got that with BOTH flavors that I recently bought. That, my friends, is consistency. I'm going to get more of them soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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