Looking For A Bigger Stem That Will Fit A Mya Base

[mattarios2]

So after reading up on levels of CO w/ relation to size of the hookah, I was considering buying a new stem to make my mya hookah a bit bigger. Right now I have this hookah : http://www.myasaray.com/store/item.asp?ITE...EPARTMENT_ID=49 the vase is 10 inches tall and the stem is 13 inches making it 23 inches tall.

According to pubmed a smaller hookah can produce a hell of a lot more CO, which all of you know I am sure. So anyways is 23 inches considered to be a small hookah? In the study they say a Large hookah produces xxx and a small hookah produces xxx, with the small hookah creating much more CO than the large. If 23 inches is considered to be small I was thinking of picking up a new stem that would fit the base to make it about 28-31 inches tall or so. Figured the 23 inch set up can be for parties and the bigger set up can be for my chill sessions. So I checked out myasaray's site and they don't seem to offer many stems by themselves.

I am going to call myasaray and ask if they sell all their stems seperately, and do you guys know of any stem brands specifically that will fit on that vase?

Thanks guys

EDIT: I was thinking this stem right here ...

http://www.myasaray.com/store/item.asp?ITE...EPARTMENT_ID=42

And I know it must fit because it shows the same vase.

Anyone object or know of any other nice stems? Edited April 26, 2008 by mattarios2

[r1v3th3ad]

just get a KM ftw

[mattarios2]

just get a KM ftw

Eh not quite for me, maybe one day, but i need something not tipsy. By the look of the base and height + my friends drinking = not a good scenario. I love how my MYA is not too tall and has an incredibly wide base, it's pretty much impossible to knock over. Now that I think about it even though its short, it has such a wide base (so much room for smoke to sit) it probably evens out. Because CO buildup in the hookah is from a number of things, pipe length, fire volume of the bowl, space for smoke to sit in the vase, etc. etc.

we'll see

[Johnny_D]

just get a KM ftw

Eh not quite for me, maybe one day, but i need something not tipsy. By the look of the base and height + my friends drinking = not a good scenario. I love how my MYA is not too tall and has an incredibly wide base, it's pretty much impossible to knock over. Now that I think about it even though its short, it has such a wide base (so much room for smoke to sit) it probably evens out. Because CO buildup in the hookah is from a number of things, pipe length, fire volume of the bowl, space for smoke to sit in the vase, etc. etc.

we'll see

eeeeer what?

How the heck does pipe length make a damn bit of difference to co2? The co2 would be produced at the coalface and then travel with the smoke. Explain to me how travelling longer distances reduces it's volume?

Especially when your talking about a couple of inches?

[mattarios2]

There could be some ambiguity to this article though because they only state "large" and "small" hookah, for all we know they could mean 12 inches by small and 21 inches and up large. Got any input JD?

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8283598...Pubmed_RVDocSum Edited April 26, 2008 by mattarios2

[Johnny_D]

There could be some ambiguity to this article though because they only state "large" and "small" hookah, for all we know they could mean 12 inches by small and 21 inches and up large. Got any input JD?

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8283598...Pubmed_RVDocSum

I'm no scientist - But the one thing that bothers me from that article is the use of 'Commercial & Domestic' Coals...

Also the tobacco used was Indian - No idea if that makes a difference, but I would guess 95% of tobacco smoked from hookah is Middle Eastern or American?

As to the idea of Co2 levels -vs- pipe length I'm afraid that I can only make 1/2 assed guesses... But that article looks very suspect to me.

JD

[mattarios2]

There could be some ambiguity to this article though because they only state "large" and "small" hookah, for all we know they could mean 12 inches by small and 21 inches and up large. Got any input JD?

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8283598...Pubmed_RVDocSum

I'm no scientist - But the one thing that bothers me from that article is the use of 'Commercial & Domestic' Coals...

Also the tobacco used was Indian - No idea if that makes a difference, but I would guess 95% of tobacco smoked from hookah is Middle Eastern or American?

As to the idea of Co2 levels -vs- pipe length I'm afraid that I can only make 1/2 assed guesses... But that article looks very suspect to me.

JD

Yeah, I was told by my father that the CO2 has room to dispurse in a longer pipe ... to where? I have no idea, but he claims it isn't all taken in in a longer pipe. I guess this is why they say to inhale slowly rather than fast ... b/c you give room for some of the CO2 to dispurse? I don't know I just want the safest set up even if what we are doing isn't healthy, ya know?!

[Tikhman]

I wouldn't put too much faith into that study. Its done in 93 and the whole paper isn't available. Its very hard to see what they tested exactly and how they had the set up made.

btw, this is a much more interesting article, though I do have a few small reservations about it looking at the authors.

I have access to the whole text if anyone is curious (pm me and I can send it to you), though anyone who is going to college should be able to access it as well through their library.


edit* forgot the article link last time
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1115306...A&linkpos=5 Edited April 26, 2008 by Tikhman

[Johnny_D]

Yeah, I was told by my father that the CO2 has room to dispurse in a longer pipe ... to where? I have no idea, but he claims it isn't all taken in in a longer pipe. I guess this is why they say to inhale slowly rather than fast ... b/c you give room for some of the CO2 to dispurse? I don't know I just want the safest set up even if what we are doing isn't healthy, ya know?!

Well I wouldn't be so rude as to questions one's father's suggestion. What you need is someone like Eric (Tangiers/Sonthert) to throw his educated love spuds on this one.

I'm afraid I can only makes guesses - Mine would be that there would be no difference.

JD

[mattarios2]

I wouldn't put too much faith into that study. Its done in 93 and the whole paper isn't available. Its very hard to see what they tested exactly and how they had the set up made.

btw, this is a much more interesting article, though I do have a few small reservations about it looking at the authors.

I have access to the whole text if anyone is curious (pm me and I can send it to you), though anyone who is going to college should be able to access it as well through their library.

Good point that it was done so long ago. But I mean when you really think about it, would it even make sense a bigger pipe gives less CO2, I mean where would the CO2 dispurse to?

Anyone else, particularly someone who knows about science, able to chime in?

I would think the room for smoke in the vase and the size of the bowl would be bigger factors in CO2 rather than the length of the pipe. Edited April 26, 2008 by mattarios2

[Tikhman]

Sorry, can't help you there, I'm a biochemist, always sucked at physics . But I would be that since you have the same size bowl and the same amount of tobacco+ same coal you have the same amount of CO produced. The only difference is that in a bigger pipe/base combo it may occupy less of the TOTAL volume (they measure % volume). Which really doesn't mean anything if you are looking for total CO production.

[mattarios2]

So is the article saying it produces less or you inhale less? I'm sort of confused now.

[mattarios2]

I wouldn't put too much faith into that study. Its done in 93 and the whole paper isn't available. Its very hard to see what they tested exactly and how they had the set up made.

btw, this is a much more interesting article, though I do have a few small reservations about it looking at the authors.

I have access to the whole text if anyone is curious (pm me and I can send it to you), though anyone who is going to college should be able to access it as well through their library.


edit* forgot the article link last time
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1115306...A&linkpos=5

That article is saying if you heat tobacco it isn't nearly as bad as burning it. Yeah? Edited April 26, 2008 by mattarios2

[mattarios2]

Ah all this hookah talk makes me want to go light up a Nakhla Peach and get a nice buzz. has anyone noticed Nakhla peach is extra strong in terms of buzz compared to the other flavors? Right now I have strawberry, peach, and el basha grape, Peach by far gives me the biggest buzz.