I Guess We Are Declaring War... Again.

[Hookah_Bob3]

You have the right to bitch at me. You have the right to bitch about the government. That's what I'm bitching about. People forget the very government they bash is the one that gives them the freedom to bash

[r1v3th3ad]

My main reason I bash my gov. is for it trying to be the world police/bully nation...we are wasting our money..its not our problem, don't try to fix it, its up to them to. How many trillion are we in debt now due to our overseas commitments? And look at the problems in the country because of it. Oil is going up, partially our fault, they see we are at war and we depend on oil for this war to continue, so they hike up the prices... And then, look at how many Americans are in debt, this new money return they are doing($300-$600), its supposed to boost the economy, but its just gonna boost loan corporations pockets. Most people I know are spending theirs on debts. Look at how bad inflation is getting. Every since this war, we are, imo, going into an economic depression, and it may become worse than the great depression itself. At least the stock market hasnt crashed yet, too much dependency in foreign industries for that to happen again IMO

edit: I am greatful for what freedoms I have left...but things like the patriot act and anti-hate crime legislation is slowing taking everything I have left away. Edited May 4, 2008 by r1v3th3ad

[Hookah_Bob3]

I agree. Our government is becoming very much a fascist one, and it's "republicans" like George Bush and Dick Cheney that give Republicans bad names (they aren't really republicans, they're exceedingly far-right bordering on fascism, like I just mentioned) and acts like the Patriot Act, as well as all the bans (smoking bans) and now New Jersey is trying to put a tax on fast food (a "sin" tax) to try to regulate our health.

Being a world super-power, which no one can claim we aren't, is a two-edged sword. If we do something, we're policing the world. If we don't (i.e. Rowanda) then we're bashed for not doing anything. We do need to change the government, but bashing it isn't going to change anything. Actively seeking to change it (via elections, and only if the general populace stops listening to the polls and vote for who they think is best, though the average American has no idea who'd be best in office because they only listen to what's on the news) is the only true way to make a real difference in the direction our country is going

[r1v3th3ad]

I think the elections are a waste anymore..I believe in the popular vote because its what we want, but thats not what elects people, its the "educated people's vote" that does it, which is bs. I think bashing can be a bad thing, but when we bash, they hear it and know what they need to change because we are pissed...when we just say "Gee golly, I don't really like this patriot act because...." instead of speakin in anger, they don't listen. Violent people only listen to violence, that been my experience.
I do agree with you.
It shouldn't be at the point where we have to "hate" our government or bash it. I wish it was nicer and I could be proud to say "God Bless America", but it'll be a long time until I am comfortable saying that again.

[TheScotsman]

... I go to a public university CU Boulder...

explains allot.

As I mentioned before, most people at CU have an anarchic bent. Being a statist actually sets me apart.

There is a reason boulder has been known as "the people's republic of Boulder" or "the walled city" for as long as I can remember.

[St. Goodypants]

You have the right to bitch at me. You have the right to bitch about the government. That's what I'm bitching about. People forget the very government they bash is the one that gives them the freedom to bash

wait...

You're bitching about having the right to bitch? But if the government gives you that right aren't you bitching about the said government that gives you that right?

Stop the logic loop! I wanna get off!

[John Stuart Mill]

... I go to a public university CU Boulder...

explains allot.

As I mentioned before, most people at CU have an anarchic bent. Being a statist actually sets me apart.

There is a reason boulder has been known as "the people's republic of Boulder" or "the walled city" for as long as I can remember.

They are most certainly liberal, I’m not denying that. However, they are the hippy everyone can love each other and live in a communal peace without government liberals. I’m a realist. I believe man isn’t perfectly cooperative, and that a government is a necessity. I also don’t think mere market forces can effectively regulate man.

[Hookah_Bob3]

You have the right to bitch at me. You have the right to bitch about the government. That's what I'm bitching about. People forget the very government they bash is the one that gives them the freedom to bash

wait...

You're bitching about having the right to bitch? But if the government gives you that right aren't you bitching about the said government that gives you that right?

Stop the logic loop! I wanna get off!

I'm simply stating that before one decides to bash an entire government based on a few policies, one appreciates the freedoms that they have enough to say they don't hate the government (and thus what the world perceives to be our Nation), only the bad things it's doing Edited May 5, 2008 by Hookah_Bob3

[ZenSilk]

The record biz is just a bunch of fat worthless guys and tight-pants wearing emos who sing like chicks anyway...

Why should we give them money?

Radiohead made an exorbitant amount of money releasing their album for free to whoever wanted it. Yet some people thought "Hell, these guys fucking kick ass and have only made good music, let's give them money and suport what they do so I can keep hearing new stuff rom them in the future". Same with Nine Inch Nails, Trent knows what's up.

So in a way it's a form of not-so-natural selection. The best Musicians survive based on their fan-base and how amazing their music is, the rest of the musicians, who are obviously total shit that no-one would ever pay for, die a slow death.

[r1v3th3ad]

its all because of those pussies from Metallica...

[Hookah_Bob3]

its all because of those pussies from Metallica...

Sad thing is you're probably right

[Revenant]

its all because of those pussies from Metallica...

You do mean Lars Ulrich. Not Kirk Hamett, who's hella cool. Or James Hetfield, who anyone can have respect for. And especially not Trujillo.

Lars Ulrich=Greedy little bastard who sucks at drumming. Metallica isn't your problem, it's Lars.

[ZenSilk]

its all because of those pussies from Metallica...

You do mean Lars Ulrich. Not Kirk Hamett, who's hella cool. Or James Hetfield, who anyone can have respect for. And especially not Trujillo.

Lars Ulrich=Greedy little bastard who sucks at drumming. Metallica isn't your problem, it's Lars.

Yeah, but they know they can't sell records to anyone but die-hard fans. I mean, who wants a new Metallica album? I love their old stuff, it's artistic and well-presented. But St.Anger???? Maybe i'm not into metal enough, but ewww.

But does it make sense to let the Great Musicians survive and the shit musicians die? I think it does. Now for those of you out there thinking "But what would I do without Panic at the Disco????" (yes they got rid of the ! ), your gonna have to take that fall for all humanity, you Hero.