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Well, the main point of this thread is to help better understand how to pronounce brand names, and what they translate to [if any].

So, if there is anything you would like to know, maybe something you are confused about or something you can't pronounce as easily [Arabic brand names of course], write it up and I will upload a voice file of me pronouncing it and then write some text of its meaning.
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QUOTE (Snoopy1966 @ May 23 2008, 03:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Put your Khalil Mamoon sound track up again so everyone can say it correctly wink.gif

This should be a very good thread! Thanks George!!


Not a Problem.

I will put it up as soon as I find it! If I can't I'll just make another really quickly!

The most commonly mis-pronounced one is Al Fakher...and I bet you anything that more than half of the people here will STILL be unable to pronounce it even after I upload the file. The 'kh' in Al Fakher is something not many people can pronounce lol. I'll have that up sometime after my classes today.

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I've heard a few different opinions on this one, so it'd be nice to get a slightly more authoritative answer: narghile. I usually hear people pronounce it "NAR-gile" (the second part rhyming with mile), but that doesn't sound right to me... "Nar-GEE-leh," maybe?
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QUOTE (peterjmag @ May 23 2008, 03:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I've heard a few different opinions on this one, so it'd be nice to get a slightly more authoritative answer: narghile. I usually hear people pronounce it "NAR-gile" (the second part rhyming with mile), but that doesn't sound right to me... "Nar-GEE-leh," maybe?



the second one is right...gile is not pronounced gyle...as in argyle...

also the 'kh' noise is similar to....clearing your throat

edit: also, the term arguileh came from الارجيلة but as i said in the post after this the jiim (or j sound) is pronounced as a hard g by egyptians...so i guess the egyptian pronunciation became more popular even though they say shisha شيشة.
so since the term caught on the word in arabic (mostly from what i've seen at least) is now الاركيلة, which would actually be transliterated as "ar-keel-ah" but by arabs it is still pronounced argeeli/arguileh Edited by antouwan
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QUOTE (MechAnt @ May 23 2008, 10:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm curious for Nakhla too! Has the similar 'kh' as AF.

And Magdy Zidan I think of as (Mag-d Zeh-dawn). Is that correct?


ohhhh egyptians ahahahha

the way it is written in Arabic it would be pronounced by any arab speaker (other than egyptians with their accents) as maj-dee zay-dan (yes dan, like the short name for daniel)

wait...i've actually never seen magy zidan written in arabic

george, do you know?

is it, مجدي زداَن ?

well anyway it's probably mag-dee zi-dan (i think, but could be wrong)

if it is different, george can you write it in arabic or tell me if there is an alif, which accent if any go ontop, 7hamza....oh shit i forgot what the others are called hahah i need to brush on on my arabic haha Edited by antouwan
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Sorry guys been slightly busy

files will be uploaded tomorrow

and antouwan, the Magdy is correct, the "yaa" is missing right after the 'zaay' in Zidan

Mag-dee Zee-dan

thats how i pronounce it.

audio files + arabic writing tomorrow
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QUOTE (Canon @ May 27 2008, 06:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Layalina and Nammor seem to be the most common i can think of.



layalina...i honestly dont know "our night"? george...some help.

and nammor is romman backwards, that is the owner of hookah-shisha's last name spelled backwards and also their signature tobacco line.
this is comparable to how razan is nazar backwards aka nazar hookah, the sellers of the razan
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Ok so finally I got thesei n right before bed.

Its almost 2 in the morning so I had to lower my voice but its clear enough

Al Fakher
http://www.soundupload.com/audio/xm4nx10dyfxdrvc

Khalil Mamoon
http://www.soundupload.com/audio/3cku350ys0q1o75

Magdy Zidan
http://www.soundupload.com/audio/xa1qclchop7c2t2
The G in maGdy is pronounced differently. Not like the G George. Its an Egyptian name and the Egyptians pronounce the G differently...just like it sounds in the audio clip.

And yes, Layalina does mean 'our nights'

I did not put a clip of it because its fairly easy..but if some one wants it let me know.

and yes, thats the correct way for spelling MZ in Arabic! Edited by Codename067
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QUOTE (Snoopy1966 @ May 28 2008, 06:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thanks for the sound waves. That will help out a lot. I could not get Canon to say Kha in Khalil Mamoon. It comes from the throat yes?


Np. And yes, directly from the throat!


QUOTE (antouwan @ May 28 2008, 07:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
بس كيف تحك متل مصري!؟

(my spelling could be way off)


I dont, its just that my parents watch a lot of egyptian movies and I am more than familiar with the Egyptian accent. I could easily use their accent it if I wanted to as well.

And the spelling is pretty nice =]


QUOTE (*HOT&SMOKING* @ May 28 2008, 08:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thanks a lot codename...the al-fakher one helped a lot!!!

-H&S


No problem man


QUOTE (StarCuzz @ May 28 2008, 08:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
how do you say, "codename, i want your hookah?"


lol

Joke or no joke? lol
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I'm just going to start calling it Al-hocker, cause that's all that happens when I try to make that sound. lol jk. Thanks for uploading those sound files codename, I imagined that's how they were pronounced anyways but it's nice to have some confirmation.
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