My First Experience /w Tangiers And Tri-metal

[Click]

Well, I got my tri-metal KM and tangiers today (yesterday technically) and I didn't have time to figure out the right amount of water in the vase, and how to pack the phunnel bowl, etc.

My friend called me up and asked me to go watch the Lakers/Spurs game at his shop and smoke hookah. I bought the tri-metal to keep at my house and not travel with it, but I just got it and really wanted to try it so I took it to his shop.

So I packed a regular mod bowl with Al Fakher and it went alright. Then I tried the phunnel bowl with tangiers and after my first few hits I could feel the "buzz". The smoke was okay, but I was still trying to figure out the right amount of water, plus how to pack the bowl for my first time. Basically, I was the only one smoking cause I was trying to figure out why it wasn't hitting so great.

After a couple hours of trying to figure out how to pack the bowls and the water level I got really pale and hot and had to go outside for fresh air. I felt like I got kicked in the face, the balls, and drank ten tequlla shots. My friends were asking me if I was okay cause I couldn't stand. I collapsed and just threw up three times (sigh). I only had one beer so it wasn't cause I was drunk.

After I threw up I felt pretty much fine. I emptied my bowl and cleaned my hookah and just set it aside cause I was done for the night. My friend got terribly drunk and he was the one who drove me. So I drove him home and parked his truck outside his house and had to walk a few blocks back home with my tri-metal stem, vase, and bag of tobacco and coal without a case. (need to get some kind of box)

So, the main reason for this post is to figure out what is the best amount of water to put in the tri-metal vase and how the f*ck can tangiers do that to me, lol! My stem seems to sit around the bottom of the gold band on the vase. I tried filling the water at a few different places but everytime it was pretty bad. It may have been my phunnel bowl packing cause it was my first couple tries, but I packed a modern bowl like I always do for my MYA and it sucked.

Any help is appreciated, thanks.

[liquidglass]

well this isn't exclusively for KM b/c there is a basic rule to follow.

about 1 1/2 inches above the bottom of the shaft will be fine.

If you go less, it doesn't filter enough, if you go more it's too much so between 1 and 2 inches will be heaven for you.


As far as the tangiers goes they've got multiple posts and videos about it, but if I'm not mistaken you pack it in clumps, no sprinkling here....after it acclimates of course (although some people say they dont' and it's fine, i dunno, never tried it)

You either got sick b/c the smoke was too harsh, you weren't used to tangiers, or could be something in the hose or hookah (did you clean it first?)

More than likely though it was probably your stomach that didn't agree with everything, so maybe what you ate, the beer, and the smoke just messed everything up.

[stuyvo]

did you suck the excelerant stuff off quick light coals through the hookah? if you just recently lit the coals and sucked that through the hose it would do that to you (i did it my first try too, made me sick as hell)

[liquidglass]

damn, good point

[mushrat]

did you suck the excelerant stuff off quick light coals through the hookah? if you just recently lit the coals and sucked that through the hose it would do that to you (i did it my first try too, made me sick as hell)

Heh, me too..i forget where i wnet for my info online when i got my hookah, but I hadn't found this place yet. The instructions did say anything about letting the coals get all ashy..almost died.

[bjelder]

did you suck the excelerant stuff off quick light coals through the hookah? if you just recently lit the coals and sucked that through the hose it would do that to you (i did it my first try too, made me sick as hell)

Heh, me too..i forget where i wnet for my info online when i got my hookah, but I hadn't found this place yet. The instructions did say anything about letting the coals get all ashy..almost died.

Yep... thank god for this place. Recently I lit my quicklights inside, got bored and figured I'd light them the rest of the way via hookah so I just threw 'em on my bowl.

Bad. Fucking. Idea.

[Scoop]

did you eat? if it was your first time with tangiers, the nicotine content (especially if youre hungry) will knock you out and make you hurl. it could be general nicotine poisoning since your body isn't used to it. I threw up my first night when i got tangiers to smoke properly.

[AKammenzind]

did you eat? if it was your first time with tangiers, the nicotine content (especially if youre hungry) will knock you out and make you hurl. it could be general nicotine poisoning since your body isn't used to it. I threw up my first night when i got tangiers to smoke properly.

Yeah, I've gotten nicotine poisoning before... and it's not cool. Never threw up but it can really mess your day up. When combined with a bad hangover it can mess the next day up too hehehe.

[Click]

Well I finally just woke up and feel fine.

I used finger coal that were ashed over so I'm pretty sure that it wasn't the coal. But now that I think of it I didn't get a chance to eat dinner cause my friend came to pick me up when I wasn't expecting it. So I just ate at like 2pm and that was it all day. That could explain part of the problem, lol.

As for tangiers, I packed it according to Snoopys how-to video. Of course I couldn't do it perfect, but I packed it not too loose to tight cause I wasn't sure exactly what to do for my first time. And I poked the foil with the line across method that he shows, and not the circular method.

I was thinking all night I had too much water cause I thought I read that if there too much smoke/too harsh you don't have enough water. Since the smoke sucked I kept emptying water. So anybody with a tri-metal where do you put your water up to (Ounces would be perfect). I'm thinking now I have to go above the gold band, cause last night it was around 1/2 to 3/4 up the gold band.

-John

Edited May 24, 2008 by click

[NUBBS]

did you eat? if it was your first time with tangiers, the nicotine content (especially if youre hungry) will knock you out and make you hurl. it could be general nicotine poisoning since your body isn't used to it. I threw up my first night when i got tangiers to smoke properly.

Yeah, I've gotten nicotine poisoning before... and it's not cool. Never threw up but it can really mess your day up. When combined with a bad hangover it can mess the next day up too hehehe.

Theres no such thing as nicotine poisoning. Lack of oxygen, loss of brain cells, and some other variables might help to feeling like crap.

Well I finally just woke up and feel fine.

I used finger coal that were ashed over so I'm pretty sure that it wasn't the coal. But now that I think of it I didn't get a chance to eat dinner cause my friend came to pick me up when I wasn't expecting it. So I just ate at like 2pm and that was it all day. That could explain part of the problem, lol.

As for tangiers, I packed it according to Snoopys how-to video. Of course I couldn't do it perfect, but I packed it not too loose to tight cause I wasn't sure exactly what to do for my first time. And I poked the foil with the line across method that he shows, and not the circular method.

I was thinking all night I had too much water cause I thought I read that if there too much smoke/too harsh you don't have enough water. Since the smoke sucked I kept emptying water. So anybody with a tri-metal where do you put your water up to (Ounces would be perfect). I'm thinking now I have to go above the gold band, cause last night it was around 1/2 to 3/4 up the gold band.

-John

I was smoking with Nick for the first time and had 2 bowls by my self. Some SB Sour Apple then had a bowl of Layalina Lemon Grape [excellent] and used Exoticas for the first time; I had the same exact thing happen to me. After stumbling through the house with everyone asking if I was ok with the whole room was spinning and I ached all over, mostly my head, I went and passed out on my bed. Then threw up about 3 times [luckily I made it to the toilet], and I havnt thrown up since I was like 6. Nick thought it was the coals, cuz he dont like Exotica. Then my gf came home [who's very smart with a biology major] and asked what I had to eat. I had toast for breakfast and half a sandwich, thats it for all day. She fed me crackers and gave me juice, I felt better after a while.

I learned from it. I always eat something to fill me up before I smoke. I felt like an idiot with Nick around for the first time. Good times... Good times!

[Scoop]

i do the water index finger and middle finger width above the bottom of the stem. the water wont give you that throwing up effect. you didn't eat, that was nicotine, the turning pale is a tell tell sign of eat or throw up (at least for me)

hehe nubbs youre lucky it wasn't tangiers. that would have fucked you up if that was all you had eaten all day Edited May 24, 2008 by Scoop

[Click]

Thanks guys. Nubbs that's funny, least I'm not the only one that felt stupid cause I looked hammered off hookah. All my friends were like uh, wtf is wrong with him?

Thanks scoop. I'll try the index middle finger thing.

As for now. I'm gonna go install Age of Conan. OOOOOOOH YEAH! Edited May 24, 2008 by click

[Click]

So I just tried the hookah again and it seems I needed to add much more water, lol.

I packed a mod bowl with AF and it went really well. So now I just need to fine tune the water level and figure out how not to get uber effed up from tangiers and I'll be set.

[NickReppinThe909]

did you eat? if it was your first time with tangiers, the nicotine content (especially if youre hungry) will knock you out and make you hurl. it could be general nicotine poisoning since your body isn't used to it. I threw up my first night when i got tangiers to smoke properly.

Yeah, I've gotten nicotine poisoning before... and it's not cool. Never threw up but it can really mess your day up. When combined with a bad hangover it can mess the next day up too hehehe.

Theres no such thing as nicotine poisoning. Lack of oxygen, loss of brain cells, and some other variables might help to feeling like crap.

Well I finally just woke up and feel fine.

I used finger coal that were ashed over so I'm pretty sure that it wasn't the coal. But now that I think of it I didn't get a chance to eat dinner cause my friend came to pick me up when I wasn't expecting it. So I just ate at like 2pm and that was it all day. That could explain part of the problem, lol.

As for tangiers, I packed it according to Snoopys how-to video. Of course I couldn't do it perfect, but I packed it not too loose to tight cause I wasn't sure exactly what to do for my first time. And I poked the foil with the line across method that he shows, and not the circular method.

I was thinking all night I had too much water cause I thought I read that if there too much smoke/too harsh you don't have enough water. Since the smoke sucked I kept emptying water. So anybody with a tri-metal where do you put your water up to (Ounces would be perfect). I'm thinking now I have to go above the gold band, cause last night it was around 1/2 to 3/4 up the gold band.

-John

I was smoking with Nick for the first time and had 2 bowls by my self. Some SB Sour Apple then had a bowl of Layalina Lemon Grape [excellent] and used Exoticas for the first time; I had the same exact thing happen to me. After stumbling through the house with everyone asking if I was ok with the whole room was spinning and I ached all over, mostly my head, I went and passed out on my bed. Then threw up about 3 times [luckily I made it to the toilet], and I havnt thrown up since I was like 6. Nick thought it was the coals, cuz he dont like Exotica. Then my gf came home [who's very smart with a biology major] and asked what I had to eat. I had toast for breakfast and half a sandwich, thats it for all day. She fed me crackers and gave me juice, I felt better after a while.

I learned from it. I always eat something to fill me up before I smoke. I felt like an idiot with Nick around for the first time. Good times... Good times!

yea that sucked bro i thought you got CO poisoning or something. when are we gonna smoke again ? and when are you gonna get a functioning phone bro lol

[StarCuzz]

what flavor of al fakher did you smoke?

[Click]

It was a freebie 50g that I got from Neal at DPG. It was Watermelon. Pretty damn good. I liked it. I only have like vanilla, grape, and strawberry AF so I didn't know if I should have tried mixing it lol.

[NickReppinThe909]

AF strawberry and watermelon is a GREAT mix

[StarCuzz]

click --

do af berry and af cherry...
so so so so so so so good!!!!!

[Click]

Sweet guys. A 50/50 mix? And do you think phunnel bowl is worth it for AF. And when you pack non-tangiers in a funnel bowl so you pack it just like you do in a regular bowl?

[StarCuzz]

Sweet guys. A 50/50 mix? And do you think phunnel bowl is worth it for AF. And when you pack non-tangiers in a funnel bowl so you pack it just like you do in a regular bowl?

yes, but 60:40 and 70:30 are good (af berry:af cherry)
the tangiers phunnel bowl is good for al fakher, because...

it is so juicy that a phunnel is necessary...
i only do al fakher with the modification...

[liquidglass]

always worth it to use the phunnel

[ilikemyusername]

Yeah, I've gotten nicotine poisoning before... and it's not cool. Never threw up but it can really mess your day up. When combined with a bad hangover it can mess the next day up too hehehe.
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Theres no such thing as nicotine poisoning.

Well I finally just woke up and feel fine.

really?, well i'll be damned! since nicotine is a combination pesticide and herbicide, i always assumed it could be poisonous, i'll put it to the test.....

wow, i really fudged this post! Edited May 25, 2008 by ilikemyusername

[Photic]

Yeah there's Nicotine Poisoning..
I first read about it in a story of how some guys broke out of jail. The guy soaked some cigarettes in a cup of water over night and then drank it the next morning. The guards thought it was a heart attack. They sent him to a hospital and he was able to escape then. I wish I could find the story, it might of been one of the ones on crime library.. I forget.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicotine_poisoning Edited May 25, 2008 by Photic