The World Is Going Into The Shitter

[Brownman18]

As the energy crisis blares on and those in power tell us that oil is scarce and we must resort to bio fuels, one must point out the obvious flaws in global policy around the globe are all instituted to lead to our own destruction.


Peak oil is a sham of a scam based on principles posted here which i have summed up previously but been called a fool for.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2008/jun/03/commodities

It sums up that the investors in power have turned this to the united states of europe (EU) the reason their prices have always been high is because their economy is less reliant on fossil fuels, so in order to facilitate a crash over their europe has always had no check and balance on their fuel prices.

North america has had it in the past and george bush has removed it with his policy of opening the oil markets to derivitives, hedge funds and other scams which have arisen in the past twenty years as financial instruments corporations can use to destroy middle america.

If you care to research further it has played a role in food prices as well which led to india suspending food futures within its own market in order to cut speculation out of the price of agricultural goods.

Now while our economy which is also something that did not exist in the past times of jesus allah or what not your faith leads you too, this is an instrument of man made to enslave those deemed priveledged(The west) and unpriveledged (third world)

http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/05/05/business/5indfood.php a link to that and the evidence is pointed above in that guardian articles as to how oil futures has crippled the price into a pure speculation market.

To sum it up, the more pictures of death and oil uncertanty on the tube will directly increase the price higher then it should be given their was no futures trading.

The solution to cure our energy reliance is very easily do able if any government actually had the will anymore to better the lives of all americans, canadians, europeans whichever geographic location you dwell at.

http://www.hemp4fuel.com/

read it and weap, using agricultural goods such as corn is stupid because the supply and demand scenario will drive supply down as we use food for 'energy' instead of 'energy' in the form of food.


Hemp can grow in almost the poorest of conditions and would be the best form of biomass for ethanol yet it has never been factored into the equation for some reason.


Hemp also has the actual potential to increase the future production of agriculture from the very shitty soil fields we grew the hemp to begin with.


So the idea would be to plant hemp in shitty land and use it to make ethanol, then sell that land for big money to farmers who can use it to grow food and then we move onto shittier land to make more ethanol until we end up with more actual arable and usable land for food which would drive the price of that down.


http://www.hemp4fuel.com/


All the studies are listed on that main page it just takes the time to read it.

Meanwhile

the corporations continue to relinquish all of our powers as the continent of North america will soon be the North American Union.

And europe will be the European union, and all elected leadership decisions will be made by beaurocrats who are the corporate whores to begin with which have run the developed world into the shitter by making favourable laws which increase profits exponentially for those in control.



Further and further they lead us into a depression by the economy something that was an instrument made and constructed by man with statistics and other variables which make us poor or make us afraid to be poor as they really control the strings.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/main.jhtm.../ncrisis117.xml

No more fleeing to Canada to avoid imperalistic aims when more middle class american youth will be forced to go into the army as the economy tanks and more students come out with significant debt loads (much like the prelude to world war one in which the government promised a house or debt relief if you were to inlist)

http://www.macleans.ca/article.jsp?content=n060260A


I can go on more about the NAU and EU but those are all available by any quick google search its really a sad state of affairs.


Hopefully i wont face a ban or topic closure as i have listed HEMP but i did try to go to the most reputable source for lack of no bad google hits for another product of hemp which is not good for this forum.


Political Science and Accounting go hand in hand in destroying an economy in order to transfer wealth from one party to the next, in this case its the developed worlds middle class to the rich super class so that you will have no alternative but to rely on the government for everything.


and in close i leave a quote not to stir anti semetic relations but to show what those that are really in power view as their destiny.

""Our race is the Master Race. We are divine gods on this planet. We are as different from the inferior races as they are from insects. In fact, compared to our race, other races are beasts and animals, cattle at best. Other races are considered as human excrement. Our destiny is to rule over the inferior races. Our earthly kingdom will be ruled by our leader with a rod of iron. The masses will lick our feet and serve us as our slaves."

Menachem Begin - Israeli Prime Minister 1977–1983"

"Democratic presumptive presidential nominee Barack Obama vowed Wednesday he would work to "eliminate" the threat posed by Iran to security in the Middle East and around the globe.
"There's no greater threat to Israel or to the peace and stability of the region than Iran," he told the powerful pro-Israel lobby, the American Israel Public Affairs Council (AIPAC).

"The danger from Iran is grave and real and my goal will be to eliminate this threat," he said, adding loudly to add emphasis that he would "everything" to prevent Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon."

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=08...;show_article=1


Jesus, Allah, and any other religious figure all had one thing in common, the governments of the time and even the churches despised them as they removed the element of control from the wealthy and the church at the same time.

Meanwhile we have a religious war a brewing of Christianity vs Islam when those benefiting can be seen on both sides of the religion, all the way to the King of Saudi Arabia to george bush.. to Iran's ayatollah, as well as Israel's religious leaders.


Even all the christians i know in Canada would never condone actions or religious warfare such as this which rome continues to peddle onto the world.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71O8LzOWaWo

Theirs also lots of research pointing this to Rome but i aint gonna include that as the video does it best and its short and sweet nor do i have the time to search through propaganda from both sides.

[Brownman18]

oh and from that last post Islam is not free of it either, this can be seen by Africa especially Sudan where the wealthy islamic arabs continue their ethnic cleansing.

[Brownman18]

Also as i article to become a professional accountant "CA" which is the CPA equivalent.

In all economics they teach that oil does not follow the principles of economics or inflation as it is volatile, when in fact it is volatile energy will always be volatile which is why its the perfect business.


Look up standard oil and its negatives, once energy can be supplied to the economy cost effectively (truly cost effectively) that volatile nature would be removed from the system, and in theory although i can't prove it since i dont have the knowledge yet it would also remove the factors of the system which can create a depression, recession and what not. Which are fiscal and monetary policies one which is instituted by banks and the other by government policy both of which are strictly tied to the principles of accounting or at least the concept that is taught in the system today.


It is also why polticians and accountants/finance people are always relieved of their duty of going to war in any past scenario be it world war 1, or world war two, they are vital to the structure and get cushy jobs of immense wealth which continue to lead to the cycle.

In short the bible says the wolves are what everyone should watch out for, the wolves are shown above the wolves are those which control the economy or the financial professionals.


I highly doubt their will be any apocalyspe because it is being created before our eyes and its all being created by the actions of man (or jackasses as i prefer to refer to them as) Edited June 5, 2008 by Brownman18

[Voski]

Are u suggesting HEMP to power homes and such? Or bio-fuel for cars. If its the first then I would rather use nuclear reactors.

[SuburbanSmoker]

We will always be at a disadvantage when alot of the highly intelligent scientists are spending more time figuring out how to get somebody's junk to have the sexdrive of a twenty year old rather then finding out how to make a hydrogen engine that can power a car on the same level as gasoline, or figure an alternative to oil in general because the majority of the money for these guys is pharmasutical products rather then government products because you know chevron and shell will not be allocating billions of dollars worth of research to a cause that they depend on someone else to do.

Also i dont know if anyone has seen the scientist that has figured out how to burn salt water, but thats something that caught me offgaurd and was really interesting in my global enviromental class.
check it out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGg0ATfoBgo

[Johnny_D]

Problem with Bio Fuels is that the amount of land needed to grow enough crop to make it a sustainable oil alternative means that no bugger will be eating much.

Also your opening Rant goes from peak oil to religion. I'm confused. Edited June 5, 2008 by Johnny_D

[Bulldog_916]

Hemp really may be a solution to that problem (the biofuels problem), and a viable one, as well as algae and genetically enhanced plants designed for high output, not food. Really what it comes down to is finding an inexpensive way to retrofit current homes with energy saving additions. We have to figure out how to quickly and cheaply make our homes more efficient, using less resources. It is possible. I've found homes here in California whose total operating cost throughout the year amounts to $1200. It all comes down to having the will and the means to do it. Part of that will come through government subsidy. Part of it will come through plain innovation. We have to be willing to start the process of hard work to become independent. The future will be individual power generation instead of mass power grids.

[Brownman18]

Read the study done by a cornell prof


Hemp grows in really really shitty conditions and could easily be altered (like they are stupidly doing to corn) to make it viable.


the problem with Hemp is a large one and a political one as well as a financial one.

The value of real estate would drastically alter as Hemp can be grown in even the shittiest of areas, thus making it favorable to those who want to enter the trade should it be legalized.

They could then sell the land in due course after 10 years when it's PH has increased, thus making more arable land for food.


Not to mention this would cure alot of the current imperalist goals, as the have not countrys with little valueable natural resources (diamonds, gold, silver etc things the economy has assigned value too as our all worship device).

These countries could now become an entire industry solely revolving around hemp and agriculture..

Other things to consider should much of these industries also mix and produce a by product such as ethanol from the other illegal potent strains of hemp it would be much more effective, and grow in even shittier lands.

Also we would rip apart our principles of economy and enslavement through the water, as the 7% on the lower end of the cycle who are always going to be unemployed now have a very employable easy to do industry which would yield significant profits.

Not to mention the side effects of having a cut down in gang crime as they may see hemp as a much more favourable yield seeing as how even if we charge $80 a barrel it is more sustainable.

Also factor in industrialists equipment into the production of hemp and you have a recipe for disaster, solving all of our energy needs, and creating a second economy, one were producers of hemp could simply trade it or its family strains for goods and not require to be enslaved by the 9-5 i need to pay off my massive mortgage lifestyle.


With the increase in arable land, food prices would decline, as well as with no more wasting of energy (food) on motorized energy (cars)


And if we extend this theory to medicines its very provable that the highly profitable treatment drug industry would go in the gutter as there is much more medicinal purposes then meets the eye.

Its not like pharmaceuticals want to create a cure anyway, treatments are much more profitable.

[SuburbanSmoker]

You have a very unique veiw, im curious if you have ever heard of the book Ishmael i believe by daniel quinn, this reminds me of alot of his philisophies with what is wrong with the system as it is (government, economy, religion and the effect of each on the world) you should check it out if thats your kind of thing.

In terms of hemp being used as a type of currency, well thats a little out of the box for my tastes. But the one thing i cant help think about is that the people who would produce helmp for all these causes would become rich. It doesnt seem to me the system would change at all because that is what "America" has always been about. Capitalism, land of opportunity, very few rich, many poor.

[Brownman18]

Have you read the confessions of an economic hitman?

The European Union, North American Union, are all new economic formations, in rational terms its corporate restructuring of the current system.


Those who are + and not - in debt will be like the new surfs and lords who will continue to live along this lifestyle.


The rest will be subject to lesser forms of life, as peasents or worker bees who can attain and maintain a low cost of goods sold for all products.


EU has eastern europe, NAU has mexico.


Their is no more nations or capitalism as it sustains today.

Technology sadly does exist to circumvent this, to make society function as it is energy has to become low cost.

Hemp would allow the cost of gasoline to drop exponentially if we all convert to ethanol cars over the course of a few years or alter a combination in the interim of hemp ethanol and gas.

I haven't read that book but im sure it involves the same theories in the one i listed above.


All these unions are just corporate restructuring.


At the current rate north america is unsustainable.

Our policys are causing food riots world wide, those will eventually spiral over here as we raise the cost of ethanol from agricultural goods forcing poor farmers to compete with factory farming by selling it as ethanol instead of food and hoarding their own resources of food so as to yield the highest price.


The hemp solution would generally benefit the soon to be extinct middle class and lower classes faster then any other form.


It could become corrupt thats true, but their can be so many producers that it can be maintained, many poor countries can grow hemp and so can many americans, desserts can slowly be restored and because of the fact that their would be so many producers i see it as the only feasible way to avoid the oil scenario.

Unlike the oil industry the hemp industry would require a much smaller start up cost to the tune of maybe $150,000 or $200,000 depending on how much our dollar currency continue falling.

starting a new currency would be amazing except that nobody would really be better off as the conversion would occur after an economic meltdown which is being exhastribated by banks and governments, likely this time around their would be no recovery to our current standards of living.


And even if the oil industry plays nice and jumps in on this industry and takes it over, at least it can be done within the U.S or Canada and they would be subject to play nice by the developed world's laws as the biggest infringements occur outside of our borders were the governments have made it clear they don't intend on policing their corporate interests.

[Brownman18]

im heading to bed anyway tonight more work tomorrow but to put everything in perspective

"The oil price today, unlike twenty years ago, is determined behind closed doors in the trading rooms of giant financial institutions like Goldman Sachs, Morgan Stanley, JP Morgan Chase, Citigroup, Deutsche Bank or UBS. The key exchange in the game is the London ICE Futures Exchange (formerly the International Petroleum Exchange). ICE Futures is a wholly-owned subsidiary of the Atlanta Georgia International Commodities Exchange. ICE in Atlanta was founded in part by Goldman Sachs which also happens to run the world’s most widely used commodity price index, the GSCI, which is over-weighted to oil prices."
http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=9042

read the whole article, China and INdia's increased consumption is nothing, they are just raising the price of oil to the new standard to continue rape and pillaging the middle class and making immense profits.


Oil is actually in dare i say OVER SUPPLY now that the price has been jacked so high nobody really drives, when in fact our oil consumption didn't increase much at all.

This is more a game of changing the rules.

Read the entire article for a more in depth situation.


Needless to say we are heading to a new economic age, they already killed the $ needlessly so theirs no going back, deficits are much too large anyway and China isn't even acting hostile in one economic bit, they could tank our dollar at any point. But we are doing a fine job of that.

But Russia benefits from this too, with such large natural resources and oil supply they can sell it at this new figment of a natural price for much more profit.

Everyone's just gone corrupt pretty much.

Nationalism is dead and globalism is making its presence known.


Needless to say national databases are being compiled for fear of terrorist attacks...

http://www.bcrevolution.ca/darpa.htm


its all pretty much pointless, we could easily go back to life pre sept 11th but everyone is going to be jackasses.


Obama will continue the war policy hes bush's friggin cousin.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/10172007/news/...ama__cheney.htm

Hillary will as well she knows who pays for her lifestyle business interests.


Mccain is pretty much just going to continue on with what is happening but at least he doesn't try to hide it.

Ron Paul is really the only one speaking up about the intiatives but the news networks tear him apart for his crackpot theories when they are actually factually correct.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6O-Cznef-M


Edited June 6, 2008 by Brownman18

[HookahGuru]

I always knew HEMP was special..anytime the government bans the the people from something this controversial they have an evil money making reason...

[Brownman18]

the fact of the matter is i didnt come up with any of those, i only researched and drew a interesting conclusion

http://www.adolf-hitler.net/

"Before the Gatewood Galbraith for Governor Campaign in 1991, few Kentuckians knew that the plant that the federal government had demonized for over 50 years as "Marijuana - Assassin of Youth," was, in fact, Cannabis Hemp, the most traded commodity in the world until the mid-1800s, and our state's number one crop, industry, and most important source of revenue, for over 150 years."

and keep reading, its quite interesting, Hemp was america's master crop all along.


Also i realize that the first link is an unfavourable site, but it just goes to show how important certain facts can be despite their source.

http://www.sdearthtimes.com/et0199/et0199s11.html

Theirs a more historical source, but both together outline that we were better off in the 1800's and if we return to that field of battle it proves my whole economic thesis.

The industries that were involved from the start of the 1800's and onward once decimated after world war 1 and again after world war 2, even Hitler himself saw the uses of Hemp.

I'll leave it at that since i've provided alot of reading material.

Both links were easily attained by typing

"hemp industry before world war 1" into my firefox google search toolbar.


The study above at hemp4fuel.com outlines a cornwall professor's application which falls right in line with everything i have said. Although he failed to outline the major parties benefiting from the suppression mainly our Drug industry, Oil & fuel industries, both which have become the greatest failure of foreign policy for the united states, both of which destroyed something that helped turn it into the economic powerhouse it was to begin with, and both industries which plague the country and cause most of the problems to begin with.

Pharmaceuticals -> treatments over cure's is always the projected financial forecast as it yields returns.

and

well oil speaks for itself.. i don't think i need to outline the problems it has caused.

Edited June 6, 2008 by Brownman18

[AKammenzind]

I'm calling

Shenanigans

on this thread for having so many obscenely long consecutive posts.

And to make it worse, they're all structured kind of like this one.


Isn't it rather annoying?

Really though, it makes me want to gouge my eyes out when I attempt to read the thread.


Hemp is useful. We know. Edited June 6, 2008 by AKammenzind

[Brownman18]

I'm calling

Shenanigans

on this thread for having so many obscenely long consecutive posts.

And to make it worse, they're all structured kind of like this one.


Isn't it rather annoying?

Really though, it makes me want to gouge my eyes out when I attempt to read the thread.


Hemp is useful. We know.

K

So you gonna join the army to be over in the ME and kept busy ?

Cuz once the next elections over, we will have to lower taxes on corporations in order to spur business activity and pay back that massive surmounting debt.

But dont worry the corporations that started all these wars with their $ and politicians won't have to pay a cent of it back, they will be tax free, the burden will go on your back and mine, we'll pay it off in taxes, its kinda funny isnt it, the whole thing was rigged from the start and the end objective is supported by economics as well.And dont worry the North american union is hella rigged too, it'll be impossible to put your kids through decent schools and make a decent living (decent being a shitty apartment with crappy GM modified food as organic food will be out of your budget thanks to the food bubble, as well as oil and gas will be extremely expensive because of the self inflicted oil bubble, and housing yup housing bubble



And if you wont work for cheap, relax the Mexico has a large supply of low cost labour, and you won't work at all. No more damn handouts! the government's broke! but dont worry the corporations with more legal rights then you and i thanks to the destruction of our constitution(bill of rights for us connects see C51 on google) while their business rights have ever increased.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bg08RnRhXpw

must be interesting, the army are giving him their wages to fix the problem.

I'll stop posting now it seems rather pointless.

I agree though reading's hard, watching TV is easy. no wonder this continent is so fucked up, majority of the kids cant even read anymore.


Also dont mean to be an ass and focus on one persons opinion, but if everyones thinking that at least the reply can be viewed.

This is the last U.S election, and it was the last Canadian election and it ended up with every party having power but the republican lovers winning(cons).

And Mexico has its "lets swarm the u.s border dont worry its perfectly safe" leader who at least says it like it is. Because it will be.
Edited June 6, 2008 by Brownman18

[nathan_Choi]

the fact of the matter is i didnt come up with any of those, i only researched and drew a interesting conclusion

http://www.adolf-hitler.net/

"Before the Gatewood Galbraith for Governor Campaign in 1991, few Kentuckians knew that the plant that the federal government had demonized for over 50 years as "Marijuana - Assassin of Youth," was, in fact, Cannabis Hemp, the most traded commodity in the world until the mid-1800s, and our state's number one crop, industry, and most important source of revenue, for over 150 years."

and keep reading, its quite interesting, Hemp was america's master crop all along.


Also i realize that the first link is an unfavourable site, but it just goes to show how important certain facts can be despite their source.

http://www.sdearthtimes.com/et0199/et0199s11.html

Theirs a more historical source, but both together outline that we were better off in the 1800's and if we return to that field of battle it proves my whole economic thesis.

The industries that were involved from the start of the 1800's and onward once decimated after world war 1 and again after world war 2, even Hitler himself saw the uses of Hemp.

I'll leave it at that since i've provided alot of reading material.

Both links were easily attained by typing

"hemp industry before world war 1" into my firefox google search toolbar.


The study above at hemp4fuel.com outlines a cornwall professor's application which falls right in line with everything i have said. Although he failed to outline the major parties benefiting from the suppression mainly our Drug industry, Oil & fuel industries, both which have become the greatest failure of foreign policy for the united states, both of which destroyed something that helped turn it into the economic powerhouse it was to begin with, and both industries which plague the country and cause most of the problems to begin with.

Pharmaceuticals -> treatments over cure's is always the projected financial forecast as it yields returns.

and

well oil speaks for itself.. i don't think i need to outline the problems it has caused.

"read the whole article, China and INdia's increased consumption is nothing, they are just raising the price of oil to the new standard to continue rape and pillaging the middle class and making immense profits."

That's not true, both India and China are increasing their usage by quite a fucking bit lately. China is even stemming any sort of environmental protection to further spur it's already unsustainable growth. To call their increased consumption "nothing" is totally inaccurate.


"Oil is actually in dare i say OVER SUPPLY now that the price has been jacked so high nobody really drives, when in fact our oil consumption didn't increase much at all."


Oil has been in oversupply for some time now. It's the increased demand that's jacking up the prices, and the fact that it's more and more often being priced in Euros instead of US Dollars. And over the past few years our oil consumption has risen A LOT, especially with SUVs and what not. The price being so high you would think it would dissuade people from driving, but even that's not true. For instance, my mother knows someone that drives an escalade 30 minutes to work each day. My mom asked her about the high gas prices, and her response was "I don't know... my husband pays for my gas. I don't even know what the price is to be honest." Consumption might be tightening down a bit now that fuel is getting higher and higher, but I wouldn't count on it getting drastically lower until the mindset of our country changes.

[Brownman18]

the fact of the matter is i didnt come up with any of those, i only researched and drew a interesting conclusion

http://www.adolf-hitler.net/

"Before the Gatewood Galbraith for Governor Campaign in 1991, few Kentuckians knew that the plant that the federal government had demonized for over 50 years as "Marijuana - Assassin of Youth," was, in fact, Cannabis Hemp, the most traded commodity in the world until the mid-1800s, and our state's number one crop, industry, and most important source of revenue, for over 150 years."

and keep reading, its quite interesting, Hemp was america's master crop all along.


Also i realize that the first link is an unfavourable site, but it just goes to show how important certain facts can be despite their source.

http://www.sdearthtimes.com/et0199/et0199s11.html

Theirs a more historical source, but both together outline that we were better off in the 1800's and if we return to that field of battle it proves my whole economic thesis.

The industries that were involved from the start of the 1800's and onward once decimated after world war 1 and again after world war 2, even Hitler himself saw the uses of Hemp.

I'll leave it at that since i've provided alot of reading material.

Both links were easily attained by typing

"hemp industry before world war 1" into my firefox google search toolbar.


The study above at hemp4fuel.com outlines a cornwall professor's application which falls right in line with everything i have said. Although he failed to outline the major parties benefiting from the suppression mainly our Drug industry, Oil & fuel industries, both which have become the greatest failure of foreign policy for the united states, both of which destroyed something that helped turn it into the economic powerhouse it was to begin with, and both industries which plague the country and cause most of the problems to begin with.

Pharmaceuticals -> treatments over cure's is always the projected financial forecast as it yields returns.

and

well oil speaks for itself.. i don't think i need to outline the problems it has caused.

"read the whole article, China and INdia's increased consumption is nothing, they are just raising the price of oil to the new standard to continue rape and pillaging the middle class and making immense profits."

That's not true, both India and China are increasing their usage by quite a fucking bit lately. China is even stemming any sort of environmental protection to further spur it's already unsustainable growth. To call their increased consumption "nothing" is totally inaccurate.


"Oil is actually in dare i say OVER SUPPLY now that the price has been jacked so high nobody really drives, when in fact our oil consumption didn't increase much at all."


Oil has been in oversupply for some time now. It's the increased demand that's jacking up the prices, and the fact that it's more and more often being priced in Euros instead of US Dollars. And over the past few years our oil consumption has risen A LOT, especially with SUVs and what not. The price being so high you would think it would dissuade people from driving, but even that's not true. For instance, my mother knows someone that drives an escalade 30 minutes to work each day. My mom asked her about the high gas prices, and her response was "I don't know... my husband pays for my gas. I don't even know what the price is to be honest." Consumption might be tightening down a bit now that fuel is getting higher and higher, but I wouldn't count on it getting drastically lower until the mindset of our country changes.

increased demand?

That means the key oil consuming nation, the USA, is experiencing a significant drop in demand. China, which consumes only a third of the oil the US does, will see a minor rise in import demand compared with the total daily world oil output of some 84 million barrels, less than half of a percent of the total demand.

So the world’s largest oil consumer faces a sharp decline in consumption, a decline that will worsen as the housing and related economic effects of the US securitization crisis in finance de-leverages. The price in normal open or transparent markets would presumably be falling not rising. No supply crisis justifies the way the world's oil is being priced today.

Price last year at the pump in Canada 1.10 a litre, now to the almost bullshit 1.36 a liter.

The world’s single largest oil producer, Saudi Arabia is finalizing plans to boost drilling activity by a third and increase investments by 40 %. Saudi Aramco's plan, which runs from 2009 to 2013, is expected to be approved by the company's board and the Oil Ministry this month. The Kingdom is in the midst of a $ 50 billion oil production expansion plan to meet growing demand in Asia and other emerging markets. The Kingdom is expected to boost its pumping capacity to a total of 12.5 mm bpd by next year, up about 11 % from current capacity of 11.3 mm bpd.

http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=9042


All of it is bullshit, they are squeezing every $ of profit they possibly can, supply demand applies shit to the current price of oil, its all thanks to their scam of hedge funds which trade over the counter on markets now instead of the past prior to bush's arrival in office when they often faced very many checks and balances in the stock exchange.

This scam titled oil futures is easily influenced by those giant big oil companys, and thats why the price rises.

Speculation as it existed pre 2002 is non existant now, should we still have those checks and balances of a securities commision and regulatory body scrutinizing the price it would fall, google around if you like its all on the internet.



This whole pricing thing is total bullshit period.


It's a giant scam of finances thanks to big oil, the price would exist much lower some analyst saying oil would drop to perhaps even 85$ mark a barrel instead of this bullshit of it rising to 300$ in the near future (and it will since everyone seems to enjoy bending over and allowing it to continue).


At least read provided links and google to others on the subject, or continue being shocked as CNN tells you oil is ever so insecure and an increase in demand has caused its price to sky rocket like no tomorrow, despite the fact that we have enough oil on the planet to last a good 100 years, we also have a solution to make the change off of fossil fuels but nobody in office right now or no democrat or republican will ever change that, as they know who pays them and its not that petty white house salary they are after, thats just another bonus to fucking us all over.

[Brownman18]

http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=9191

The sugar coated bullets of the "free market" are killing our children. The act to kill is unpremeditated. It is instrumented in a detached fashion through computer program trading on the New York and Chicago mercantile exchanges, where the global prices of rice, wheat and corn are decided upon.

Poverty is not solely the result of policy failures at a national level. People in different countries are being impoverished simultaneously as a result of a global market mechanism. A small number of financial institutions and global corporations have the ability to determine, through market manipulation, the standard of living of millions of people around the World.

Prepare to starve our economic game is going to bring a recession, thanks to the oil bubble, food bubble, housing bubble all self inflicted on the populations of the world by a few financial elite.

And no us as americans, canadians will cease to exist shortly, we will be members of a greater economic community of the NAU and we shall do this to compete globally. And these people in power causing all this bullshit of bubbles will lead us into a better Period of prosperity.

In which they will live like kings and we shall work for pennies trying to pay back an ever ridiculous debt, while all that money sits in their corporate bank accounts.

[Brownman18]

oh and with all great games, are our economies are ever soo intertwined.


It will be us Americans, Canadians, British and europeans who will be starving shortly, make no mistake. Many will simply die or be too much in debt too purchase any food.


All of which is completely controlled by our ever so global multinationals.

Genetically Modified Seeds

Coinciding with the establishment the World Trade Organization (WTO) in 1995, another important historical change has occurred in the structure of global agriculture.

Under the articles of agreement of the World Trade Organization (WTO)), the food giants have been granted unrestricted freedom to enter the seeds' markets of developing countries.

The acquisition of exclusive "intellectual property rights" over plant varieties by international agro-industrial interests, also favors the destruction of bio-diversity.

Acting on behalf of a handful of biotech conglomerates GMO seeds have been imposed on farmers, often in the context of "food aid programs". In Ethiopia, for instance, kits of GMO seeds were handed out to impoverished farmers with a view to rehabilitating agricultural production in the wake of a major drought.

The GMO seeds were planted, yielding a harvest. But then the farmer came to realize that the GMO seeds could not be replanted without paying royalties to Monsanto, Arch Daniel Midland et al.

Then, the farmers discovered that the seeds would harvest only if they used the farm inputs including the fertilizer, insecticide and herbicide, produced and distributed by the biotech agribusiness companies. Entire peasant economies were locked into the grip of the agribusiness conglomerates.

The main biotech giants in GMO include Monsanto, Syngenta, Aventis, DuPont, Dow Chemical, Cargill and Arch Daniel Midland.

http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=9191


Now what happens when all the farmers of the developed world cannot afford all those GM inputs?

The food will not yield.

And bam our corn has gone too shit and we enter a great depression, they are leading us into one right now.

Edited June 7, 2008 by Brownman18

[TheScotsman]

this thread is giving me a headache.

[AKammenzind]

this thread is giving me a headache.

Hehehe, glad I'm not the only one... I was starting to feel lonely.