Hookahcompany.com + Photocopy Id

[Speak_In_Vowels]

quick question about hookahcompany.com

i was wondering if i had a past order with them and already send them a photocopy of my license,
do i have to send another photocopy everytime i place an order there?

[dakingkevin23]

I never had to send them my license or id or anything

[SimplexCoda]

Umm I dont know why you had to send them a copy of your ID.

[Snoopy1966]

Never had to do that either....

[AKammenzind]

I've never had to do anything of the sort... maybe you just failed?

[Jeff_T]

Placed numerous orders with them and nothing similar to this. Do you not have a credit/debit card you're ordering with? Paypal?

[Speak_In_Vowels]

my credit card is maxed out, so i have to use a money order which sucks =(
plus it makes the arrival of my items take soo much longer

[Dereksd]

my credit card is maxed out, so i have to use a money order which sucks =(
plus it makes the arrival of my items take soo much longer

well thats why.anyone can get a money order.you usualy gotta be 18 to get a credit card

[Jeff_T]

That sucks, use some money to pay off a little bit on the card. Then place the order, if this is possible.

[peterjmag]

my credit card is maxed out, so i have to use a money order which sucks =(
plus it makes the arrival of my items take soo much longer

well thats why.anyone can get a money order.you usualy gotta be 18 to get a credit card

I've had a Visa Check Card since I was about 14. Retailers should stop assuming that credit card = 18 years or older.

[Johnny_D]

my credit card is maxed out, so i have to use a money order which sucks =(
plus it makes the arrival of my items take soo much longer

well thats why.anyone can get a money order.you usualy gotta be 18 to get a credit card

I've had a Visa Check Card since I was about 14. Retailers should stop assuming that credit card = 18 years or older.

Of course a Visa Check Card is not a credit card.... A Credit Card [IE : A forum of Credit] you do have to be 18 for.

But both sides of hte pond lots of card companies carry transactions over the visa network. I can understand why HC want proof of id if your paying by something that requires no age verification.

HC would have to show due diligence in ensuring they were not shipping to a minor. A Credit Card or Bank Card I guess would be considered due diligence. A money order would not?

Just a thought to chew over.

JD

[Snoopy1966]

Get a debit card from your Bank. That is what I only use. I will never get a credit card. You are 19 like your profile says correct??

[mushrat]

to answer the actualy question in the OP. Call them and ask since we obviously have to idea.

[AKammenzind]

Get a debit card from your Bank. That is what I only use. I will never get a credit card. You are 19 like your profile says correct??

Yeah, that's all I do as well... credit cards have a tendency to start one hell of a slippery slope down the financial drain.

[mattarios2]

Placed numerous orders with them and nothing similar to this. Do you not have a credit/debit card you're ordering with? Paypal?

Same

[Dr. Atkins]

If your credit card is maxed, pay it off before buying something else.

[peterjmag]

Of course a Visa Check Card is not a credit card.... A Credit Card [IE : A forum of Credit] you do have to be 18 for.

But both sides of hte pond lots of card companies carry transactions over the visa network. I can understand why HC want proof of id if your paying by something that requires no age verification.

HC would have to show due diligence in ensuring they were not shipping to a minor. A Credit Card or Bank Card I guess would be considered due diligence. A money order would not?

Just a thought to chew over.

JD

Yes, I'm aware that a check card is not a credit card, but my point is that most credit card processing systems don't know the difference (unless you explicitly run the transaction as debit, which is only possible if you're physically present to enter your PIN). There's no way for retailers to determine whether a Visa card number given to them is actually a credit card, so there's no way for them to guarantee that the cardholder is 18 or above.

[Stuie]

If your credit card is maxed, pay it off before buying something else.

+1000 Climbing out of CC debt was the worst 18 months of my life!

[Johnny_D]

Yes, I'm aware that a check card is not a credit card, but my point is that most credit card processing systems don't know the difference (unless you explicitly run the transaction as debit, which is only possible if you're physically present to enter your PIN). There's no way for retailers to determine whether a Visa card number given to them is actually a credit card, so there's no way for them to guarantee that the cardholder is 18 or above.

You must have missed what I was trying to say. If they were charged in court with supplying tobacco to someone under 18* it would show due diligence that there methods and processes assumed that a visa card [Either credit or debit] is proof of age.

I know of one case that was heard that proved this point and the vendor was cleared of the supply to underage as the product was purchased via visa electron.*

I can't prove this exact point, but now in the uk I believe that <18's have the 'Delta' Card that piggy back's visa** but is only given to sub 18's or people with horrendeous credit ratings.

JD

* - I can only speak of english legal systems.
** - So it works at all Visa locations as well. Edited June 10, 2008 by Johnny_D

[peterjmag]

Yes, I'm aware that a check card is not a credit card, but my point is that most credit card processing systems don't know the difference (unless you explicitly run the transaction as debit, which is only possible if you're physically present to enter your PIN). There's no way for retailers to determine whether a Visa card number given to them is actually a credit card, so there's no way for them to guarantee that the cardholder is 18 or above.

You must have missed what I was trying to say. If they were charged in court with supplying tobacco to someone under 18* it would show due diligence that there methods and processes assumed that a visa card [Either credit or debit] is proof of age.

I know of one case that was heard that proved this point and the vendor was cleared of the supply to underage as the product was purchased via visa electron.*

I can't prove this exact point, but now in the uk I believe that <18's have the 'Delta' Card that piggy back's visa** but is only given to sub 18's or people with horrendeous credit ratings.

JD

* - I can only speak of english legal systems.
** - So it works at all Visa locations as well.

Ah, I see what you mean. I just didn't read your first post very thoroughly before replying to it. Sorry about that!

I definitely think that online vendors should look into other means of age verification though (and it seems you'd agree), because the "credit card" system is becoming increasingly shoddy, partly because of the relatively new cards you're describing.

[Speak_In_Vowels]

Get a debit card from your Bank. That is what I only use. I will never get a credit card. You are 19 like your profile says correct??

well i have both however my bank has screwed me over a couple of times so i make damn sure not to use my debit card anymore unless i absolutely have to.
well i applied for the credit card when i first turned 18 and to my suprise me without any established credit, they approved my so i just buy things i NEED and pay it off in like 2-3 payments that way i build a little credit and im not making irrational purchases. like my most recent purchase were books for school, and even though i have the money in the bank i figure why not build a little credit? and yes im only nineteen.