cafedelmar Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 From today's Globe and Mail [url="http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/ArticleNews/TPStory/LAC/20051213/HHOOKAH13/TPHealth/?query=hookah"] [url=http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/ArticleNews/TPStory/L]http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/Art...eNews/TPStory/L[/url] AC/20051213/HHOOKAH13/TPHealth/?query=hookah Are hookahs really a harmless indulgence? The latest pastime of young trendsetters comes complete with its own urban mythology: Inhaling smoke through water eliminates the toxins. That theory, say health experts, is all wet By ANDRÉ PICARD Tuesday, December 13, 2005 Page [color="#0000ff"]A21[/color] PUBLIC HEALTH REPORTER < =text/> keyVal="hookah"; esckeyVal=escape(keyVal); if(esckeyV al.indexOf('%')>-1){newstr=esckeyVal.replace( /%dd/gi, "");} else{newstr=esckeyVal;} skw=(newstr); if(skw=="_ UNDEFINED_VALUE_"){skw="";} < =text/> var szone="health-hub"; var smode=""; var sloc="lower"; var sURL_hub="TPHealth"; sarena="arena=Health;"+"arena=Andr%26 %23233%3B+Picard;"; if (skw=="subject+3Ccontains3E+golf"){smode="mode=golfGuide";} MONTREAL -- Orange, cherry, strawberry, apple, guava, coconut, mint and even house blends like "After Eight": The menu reads like that of a chi-chi tea house, or an upscale gelato bar. But the sweet delights being offered up at Montreal's Hookah Lounge are all flavoured tobaccos -- the latest indulgence of young trendsetters across North America. "It tastes so sweet, and it's really, really relaxing," says Roxanne Martin, a 20-year-old university student. "It's also a lot more sociable than just having a cigarette." Ms. Martin is sitting on comfy cushions with three other friends, laughing, drinking and smoking in the St. Denis Street bar. The foursome is smoking cherry-flavoured tobacco from a large hookah pipe sitting on the table. Each has a long tube with a filter tip, and they are absentmindedly sucking in the smoke as they talk. "I'm not a smoker, but I like sheesha," says François Guérin, a 23-year-old psychology major. "The smoke isn't harsh like a cigarette, and it's not bad for your health because the toxins are filtered out." Hookah, a centuries-old practice (which also goes by the names sheesha and arguileh) is a glorified form of smoking a water pipe. Flavoured tobacco is burned on red-hot coals and the smoke is inhaled after passing through cooling water, all of it contained in an elaborately artful brass receptacle. Many believe the water filters out the health-damaging byproducts of smoking, such as nicotine, tar and other carcinogens. But new research shows that is not true. "Water filters out nicotine a little bit, but not entirely," said Rima Nakkash, a tobacco researcher at the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine. "There is an alarming amount of tar and smokers are inhaling a tremendous amount of carbon monoxide. "We need to correct the misconception about the safety of arguileh," she said. Ms. Nakkash said that while cigarette smoking has become an anti-social habit, hookah smoking is very sociable. As a result, people will smoke virtually non-stop for hours, which more than makes up for the small amount of nicotine that is filtered out. "There's an end point to a cigarette but there's no end point to arguileh. The evening can just go on and on." The popularity of hookah bars, however, could be short-lived -- at least in Canada. Many municipalities have adopted tough anti-smoking bylaws that have been interpreted as applying to all forms of tobacco smoking. Still, in some communities, bars owner can sidestep the rules by setting up rooms for private parties where hookah smoking can take place. In Quebec, where bars will not be smoke free until January of 2007, there is an exemption for lounges (such as cigar-tasting facilities) and hookah-bar owners believe they will be allowed to remain open under those provisions. Meanwhile, Ms. Martin and her friends while away a whole evening in the Hookah Lounge, ordering up "coals" (20-gram packages) of flavoured tobacco along with pitchers of sangria. Each package of tobacco costs $7.50 -- the student price, which is less than a pack of cigarettes (the regular price is $11.50) -- and lasts almost an hour. They've come for the atmosphere to the bar with the hookah-smoking Santa painted on the front window, Ms. Martin said. The crowd here is young and laidback; there are comfortable lounge chairs and pillows, along with background music, and remarkably smoke-free air. "I've invested in a good ventilation system," said Patrick St. Onge, the youthful owner of the Hookah Lounge. "I know that my clients come here for the ambience." In fact, hookah smoking has become trendy precisely because the practice has moved out of the more traditional confines of mostly Middle Eastern cafés and into urban bars. That worries Linda Waverley, program manager of research for international tobacco control at the International Development Research Centre in Ottawa, which is sponsoring research on the burgeoning hookah habit. "These machines are quite attractive and fascinating, and there's a whole mythology built up around their safety," she said. "This is a form of smoking that is really being targeted at youth, and that's disturbing." Monique Chaaya, an associate professor in the faculty of health sciences at the American University of Beirut, said young people are attracted to hookah smoking because it tends to be cheaper. That's because tobacco is imported -- and sometimes smuggled in -- and not subject to punitive taxes or to health warnings on packages. In the Middle East, where there were long social prohibitions, women are now taking up the habit, including large numbers of pregnant women, according research done by Dr. Chaaya. But she said the principal selling point of hookah, in both the developing and developed world, is that it is not viewed in the same way as other forms of tobacco consumption. "You look down on someone who smokes cigarettes but it's still socially acceptable to smoke arguileh," she said. "It's considered charming and adventurous." With a sigh, she added: "Anti-smoking activists have some education work to do, particularly with young people." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iheartvarg1 Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 so who exactly are these people that think smoking ma'assel isnt bad for you? seems like common sense to me, but hell, its sure not gonna stop me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlax Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 To me it seems everyone has to stomp out everyone else vices. We know its bad but we don't care. We enjoy it and leave us to kill ourselves in our own way. So what, let us all smoke our hookahs. Do we don't bitch about all the pesticides in there salads? No. I beleive if there not going to sit down and join us in our smoke then they should just go else where. I think that is the end of my rant for know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonthert Posted December 15, 2005 Share Posted December 15, 2005 I agree! I have too many times heard somebody claim that their moassel only contained fruit juice and tobacco or it was natural or the color was from the fruit. All bullshi7! The color is artificial, the flavorings are at least trhe majority of which are artificial and anybody who claims its safe should be beaten across the head with a lead pipe. The lies are going to circle the feeding-frenzy media around hookahs and force the governments to make stupid laws based on half-truth pseudo-science. Stop the lies. If you hear someone make a claim about how safe hookah smoking is, call them a liar! Don't be afraid. Same thing with second-hand smoke being dangerous. More bullshi7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[LB] Posted December 15, 2005 Share Posted December 15, 2005 what about washed tobacco and filter usage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iheartvarg1 Posted December 15, 2005 Share Posted December 15, 2005 i think romman is the most "natural" brand you can buy...but nothing is going to make our unsafe hobby any safer. common sense people! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[LB] Posted December 15, 2005 Share Posted December 15, 2005 i think its degrading to see hookahing as an 'atlernative' to cigarrettes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlax Posted December 15, 2005 Share Posted December 15, 2005 Amen, LB. I think the truth of the matter lies more so with it being socially acceptable than any thing else. That is what is getting the critics so hell bent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonthert Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 [quote name='iheartvarg1']i think romman is the most "natural" brand you can buy...but nothing is going to make our unsafe hobby any safer. common sense people![/quote]How is Romman more natural than other brands? Its the same manufacturer as Al Waha...same general designs, just more flavor added and a higher price tag. They have stopped claiming to use honey in their ingredients...which would imply they've moved to the cheaper corn syrup...so does that change your opinion at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmexx Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 HEYYY!! That's the hookah lounge I go to! After Eight's my favourite:)The owner was on the news, I remember talking to him about it. He told me he was talking for like 10 minutes and all they used for the newscast was that "It's becoming a popular trend". Those bastards!Jon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmexx Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 And now reading it, I'm outraged! Obviously we know that it has some risk. Hell, if I die a year or two younger then I should, it's worth it for me. At that point in time (hopefully,) I'll be thinking about the good times I had with my friends smoking the hookah, the wonderful flavours and brilliant atmospheres. I love that hookah lounge! I think I should go pay Patrick a visit, he's a good guy!Jon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR Bubble Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 Just think about the song "Dirty Laundy." Was she a Bubble Headed Bleach Blonde? Do any of you know what I'm even talking about? MR Bubble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sariél Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 Of course, Linda Rondstat's backup band back in the Troubador days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR Bubble Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 Sari, why did I just know you would be the one to respond to that. Good seeing ya. MR Bubble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iheartvarg1 Posted December 18, 2005 Share Posted December 18, 2005 [quote name='Tangiers'][quote name='iheartvarg1']i think romman is the most "natural" brand you can buy...but nothing is going to make our unsafe hobby any safer. common sense people![/quote]How is Romman more natural than other brands? Its the same manufacturer as Al Waha...same general designs, just more flavor added and a higher price tag. They have stopped claiming to use honey in their ingredients...which would imply they've moved to the cheaper corn syrup...so does that change your opinion at all? [/quote]Hah! sure does. i was just going off of what the local lounge has told me :-P. ma'assel without honey? eh? crazy. maybe i'll stop buying romman if i can taste a noticeable difference, but their peach still reigns as my favorite smoke with fakher apricot at a close second Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonthert Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 Everything added to my tobacco is certified as being US FDA GRAS compliant (Generally Recognized As Safe). Find another manufacturer that can make that claim.(That was a shameless plug...I know...and I am sorry) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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