hookahphxsmoker Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 so i bought this sh!77y tobacco and it smells and tastes awful, not like banana at all. i wish i would've bought the tub of layalina for 3 dollars more, but i didn't. now i'm stuck with smoking this stuff over xmas break. anyways, i can't get it to smoke very well at all and every other brand i've tried smokes very well out of the ol' Stargate. Any tips on getting this stuff to burn, i thought maybe it was because of the dryness, so i used some honey with still no success. so any ideas, maybe chop the tobacco up more finely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alen Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 try to buy some glycerine at a drugstore- i had a real dry el baz (bahareini apple/strawberry mix) once that i added some glycerine too and it turned out well -glycerine is in the most tobacco but sometimes when the tobacco is dry you can add some yourself- try and you will see that it will get the smoke thicker and make it burn longer -good luck Alen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hookahphxsmoker Posted December 16, 2005 Author Share Posted December 16, 2005 interesting, in what section do they sell glycerine in? also i think i will try adding another coal cuz i'm using Roland coals which are terrible. i should've stocked up on hookah hookah shisha and golden goals before i left... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 Why don't you have the ability to buy more tobacco/coal? Do you live in Phoenix? (phx) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alen Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 [quote name='hookahphxsmoker']interesting, in what section do they sell glycerine in? also i think i will try adding another coal cuz i'm using Roland coals which are terrible. i should've stocked up on hookah hookah shisha and golden goals before i left...[/quote] mayby a drugstore isnt the right place i think maybe its called a pharmacy any way a place where you buy medicine and stuff -it also can go under the name glycerol 4-5 tablespoons would be enough for 250 g Alen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lakemonster Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 Drugstore, Chemist, Pharmacy...... Look over where the laxatives are..... thats what that was used for back in the day. Greases up the works. For some strange reason.. I havent seen the stuff anywhere as of late. Usually sells in a round bottle like Hydrogen Peroxide.... but clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonthert Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 Glycerine is being slowly moved into the "don't let them have it, if you can avoid it" category. If you mix glycerine with fuming, 16M Nitric Acid, with the right conditions, throw in some saw dust or ground sea shells and you have dynamite...literally. (detail omitted for security reasons) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushrat Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 well i'll be...keep us safe from ourselves....glad someone is... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR Bubble Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 Sure am glad hot coals don't set it off MR Bubble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hookahphxsmoker Posted December 17, 2005 Author Share Posted December 17, 2005 i can't buy more tobacco and coals because i would have to drive an hour and a half to get some. Locally, only crappy stuff like this el baz is available and it cost 9.99 for 250g and its terrible. I found glycerine at the drug store as liquid suppositories for 4.99, but then the pharmacist showed me some in the lotion aisle in a hydrogen pyroxide like brown bottle,for 2,99. two coals on the bowl with glycerine, and we're smoking! Thanks Alen and everyone else! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR Bubble Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 hookahphxsmoker, tell us your recipe. How does it taste? How much was used. Any side effects? I've been using a drop or two of Karo Syrup to wake up some apple and I'm getting a monster buzz, with a "hang-over-like" effect half way through. I wonder if doing this is a wise thing. I'm still in research mode with this. Oh, by the way, I promised a review of the combination bowl/screen/cover I purchased a month or so ago. I'm impressed AND not impressed with it. It is still subject to research and technique altering. MR Bubble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alen Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 Hi there mr B(and the rest of you too)nice to see you again its been awhile the amount of glycerine depending how dryed out your tobacco is but i have had some el baz and some nakla that was nearly unsmokeble but you just add as much until your satisfied with the wetness that you want- the glycerine is totally flavourless (mayby just a hint of sweetness and contains 15 % water so it doesnt effect the taste but it will give you much thicker smoke and a longer smoking session- i once added some honey to the glycerine and it was ok too - so my old friend just trow your dried out stuff in a bowl add some glycerin and mix it with your fingers til your satisfied with the consitence if you add to much just press it out in a towl or householdpaper - and since the mouasell already contains glycerine from the beginning you are not doing a no no just doing what they should have done from the beginningsometime you have to fine-tune some things right (pimp my moasell) anotherthing -you know that i use to cut up my tobacco with my little electric coffe grinder that is another thing i can recommend if you got a real bad and leafy batch it also make a great difference to the smoke and how long it will last -they doing a commercial here in sweden of a product called the magic bullet on the tv shop an it is some gadget that grind the most (fruit vegetables and stuff) ill guess you have seen it on the tv but prob some years ago since we are having all products a year or two later than you but that something i think would work its very like my grinder - so if you wanna make your own premium cut buy it- now -now - Now ps mr B pm or mail me when you recive the serbetli i sent you -there you have a cut that you wont belive would smoke at all Take care Alen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alen Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 oh sorry i forgot to tell that i have orderd 250g of tangiers watermelon and after what ive heard that stuff is really rough so when i got it i gonna take a little amount of it and grind it to a premium like cut (no offence tangiers i just wanna see the difference you prob have tried out the ultimate cut for your tobacco but im just curious)ill get back on that when i got my new shipment(i orderd from hookah company and once it took 4 days and another 3 weeks so well see how long it takes this time) hurry up george Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alen Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 [quote name='MR Bubble']Sure am glad hot coals don't set it off MR Bubble[/quote] whatever you do dont shake it - hmmm or was that nitroglycerin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR Bubble Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 [quote name='alen'][quote name='MR Bubble'] Sure am glad hot coals don't set it off MR Bubble[/quote] whatever you do dont shake it - hmmm or was that nitroglycerin [/quote] Might be finding out the hard way. Oh, and once again, thanks for sending the Serb off to me. I should be getting it any day now. MR Bubble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alen Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 the least i could do for you old friend take care br man- and say hello to the family Alen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR Bubble Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 Just got the Serb in the mail today. Check you PM. MR Bubble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hookahphxsmoker Posted December 17, 2005 Author Share Posted December 17, 2005 Yeh I basically did what alen did. also i pulled the tobacco into leaves before i packed it which has helped. but yeh just add a little glycerine and mix it until its nice and moist. the el baz is not el not so bad, also the glycerine has helped make the buzz milder and less overwhelming. thanks again alen and everyone else who helped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alen Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 your welcome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iheartvarg1 Posted December 18, 2005 Share Posted December 18, 2005 takin a trip to walgreens today to see if i can get that salloum going better! thanks for the tip! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iheartvarg1 Posted December 18, 2005 Share Posted December 18, 2005 WOW! got a small brown bottle of USP glycerin at walgreens and added 2 tsp to my new 250 of havana cocktail and WOW! fixed it right up! smoother, more flavor...just overall better! great tip! thanks. i've used honeyy instead of glycerin in the past and this works MUCH better! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iheartvarg1 Posted December 18, 2005 Share Posted December 18, 2005 oh...and i found the USP glycerin in the cosmetics section by the face creams and such Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR Bubble Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 Thanks for the tip alen. I was at Wally World today and forgot to look for some. Just like I forgot to look for decent curry (which I'm sure they won't have.) MR Bubble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alen Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 [quote name='MR Bubble']Thanks for the tip alen. I was at Wally World today and forgot to look for some. Just like I forgot to look for decent curry (which I'm sure they won't have.) MR Bubble[/quote] oh why didnt you tell me youre a curry freak- i have this indian guy in my block that makes his own currymix that is awsome - next time ill send you something ill throw in a pack -he has 5 different x-xx-xxx-xxxx-xxxxx just tell me how hot you want it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonthert Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 The particle size is designed so that the average particle size creates the correct "void fraction" (I don't know how to translate into english Layman, sorry). This prevents clogging your head's holes and makes the tobacco hit well from a full bowl. Fill the bowl...it hits well...smaller pieces...it is too tight and hits poorly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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