mattarios2 Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 I remember reading somewhere recently, I think it was scoop or snoopy, can't remember which one, ah I think it was snoopy, said that the point where water goes into the hose, you want the water to be right below that level in the vase. Personally I don't know what is best I usually just keep the downstem .5 - 1 inch into the water. Has anyone else tried doing what snoopy said and how does it work? I am not saying it doesn't work b/c it prob. does work but I was under the impression if there is tons of water in the vase, then that doesn't leave much room for smoke to build up. Also it looks like the KM downstems go down so far into the vase, you would barely have to fill them up w/ water.Just tryin to get my info straight so when the Heart of Lion (hehe sounds sorta cool but kinda lame) KM comes in on tuesday I'll be able to do it right and get the best experience, (im used to my mya at the moment so want info on the KM set up)Thanks fellas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoopy1966 Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 I put the water level so I get NO water in the hose. That is how I find the sweet spot. I put too much water in at first then dump a little out at a time until I get no water in my mouth. Thats how it is done. Sorry for the confusion. Water in hose = bad things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuie Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 I do the .5-1 inch thing to but each hookah like snoopy says has a sweet spot. My bambino is under 1/2 an inch but my Obelisk is 3/4. Pharaoh is 1.25 it's a trial and error game. I stick a piece of masking tape on it once i find it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victim026 Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 Just stick to your 1/2"-1" above the bottom, it will simplify things and it should keep the water outta ur hose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hookah hippie Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 QUOTE (Victim026 @ Jun 20 2008, 04:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Just stick to your 1/2"-1" above the bottom, it will simplify things and it should keep the water outta ur hose.I am going to go ahead and second that statement for larger hookahs go with about an inch smaller about a half Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoopy1966 Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 I guess you do not understand what I am talking about. I will have to make vid of it. For a KM it does not matter how deep the stem is in the water. I GET NO WATER IN MY HOSE!!! Sorry for the caps but it seems you are all missing that. Hear me now believe me later on how to find your water level sweet spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jezter6 Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 why don't you get water in yours? I put water about an inch or so above my stem and it bubbles like crazy and for some reason I'm still cleaning water out of my hose port all the time.How can you fill so high and not get water in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattarios2 Posted June 20, 2008 Author Share Posted June 20, 2008 QUOTE (Snoopy1966 @ Jun 20 2008, 12:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I put the water level so I get NO water in the hose. That is how I find the sweet spot. I put too much water in at first then dump a little out at a time until I get no water in my mouth. Thats how it is done. Sorry for the confusion. Water in hose = bad things. No my bad if I didn't explain it well, I understood that you fill it up so u get water in the hose then take a lil out until you get no water in the hose. I think I may have just explained it poorely, so sorry on my part. But i understand what your saying now, thanks Snoop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuie Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 reduce the water a bitthrow on a heba diffuserthrow Ice in the basethat should help reduce water in the hose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldog_916 Posted June 21, 2008 Share Posted June 21, 2008 QUOTE (Snoopy1966 @ Jun 20 2008, 09:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I put the water level so I get NO water in the hose. That is how I find the sweet spot. I put too much water in at first then dump a little out at a time until I get no water in my mouth. Thats how it is done. Sorry for the confusion. Water in hose = bad things. How do you get water in your mouth without getting it in the hose? I'm lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srawas89 Posted June 21, 2008 Share Posted June 21, 2008 QUOTE How do you get water in your mouth without getting it in the hose? I'm lost. Normally what I do since my I can not see the water level in my base easily is that I will fill up my base stick the shaft on it and suck through the hose port. If I get water I know I put too much. THat is how you get water in your mouth without getting it in the hose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattarios2 Posted June 21, 2008 Author Share Posted June 21, 2008 I don't know what everyone is talking about, all i was asking was if anyone tried snoopy's method by filling it up and sucking, and if he gets water, he lowers the level a little by little until he gets no water and that is the sweet spot.I wanted to know if anyone else tried that and got great results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exano Posted June 21, 2008 Share Posted June 21, 2008 QUOTE (mattarios2 @ Jun 21 2008, 10:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I don't know what everyone is talking about, all i was asking was if anyone tried snoopy's method by filling it up and sucking, and if he gets water, he lowers the level a little by little until he gets no water and that is the sweet spot.I wanted to know if anyone else tried that and got great results.Thats how I find a baseline for some hookahs where I cant see in the base. My friend gave me his, and its a completely black painted base..so I just did that for a little while and found the spot. Then I took off the stem, stuck my finger down till it hit water, remembered that spot, and now thats how I know the water level for that hookah. Smokes great, best little thing if your solo and just want a nice smoke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoopy1966 Posted June 21, 2008 Share Posted June 21, 2008 QUOTE (Bulldog_916 @ Jun 20 2008, 11:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (Snoopy1966 @ Jun 20 2008, 09:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I put the water level so I get NO water in the hose. That is how I find the sweet spot. I put too much water in at first then dump a little out at a time until I get no water in my mouth. Thats how it is done. Sorry for the confusion. Water in hose = bad things. How do you get water in your mouth without getting it in the hose? I'm lost. I am sorry again. I put my mouth on the the hose port to draw to test the water level. Just a normal pull, dont suck too hard!! Yeah no hose otherwise you would not know if there is too much water Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Boss Posted June 21, 2008 Share Posted June 21, 2008 QUOTE (Stuie @ Jun 20 2008, 10:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Pharaoh is 1.25 it's a trial and error game.Same with mine. Never less than an inch and never more than 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soco9konstantine Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 QUOTE (Stuie @ Jun 20 2008, 10:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>reduce the water a bitthrow on a heba diffuserthrow Ice in the basethat should help reduce water in the hosedo heba diffusers fit km's? thought they didn't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimplexCoda Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 No soco they dont fit KM'sIm gonna go with Mattrios and ask wtf is everyone talking about?Hes not asking for advice on how much is too much. He's asking if anyone has tried snoopys method and how it went. To answer your question. I have not tried it. I havent tried it because my stem on my KM goes so far into the base that if i tired that i wouldnt have room for some. I guess i just have a long stem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattarios2 Posted June 22, 2008 Author Share Posted June 22, 2008 QUOTE (SimplexCoda @ Jun 21 2008, 10:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>No soco they dont fit KM'sIm gonna go with Mattrios and ask wtf is everyone talking about?Hes not asking for advice on how much is too much. He's asking if anyone has tried snoopys method and how it went. To answer your question. I have not tried it. I havent tried it because my stem on my KM goes so far into the base that if i tired that i wouldnt have room for some. I guess i just have a long stem.that's what i was thinking. The one im getting goes almost to the bottom, so i figured just fill it 1-2 inches or so and be done with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimplexCoda Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 mine doesnt go that low, but its maybe 2.5 from the bottom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimplexCoda Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 ya it looks like about a half inch from the bottom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imfantabulous Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 QUOTE (SimplexCoda @ Jun 21 2008, 06:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>No soco they dont fit KM'sIm gonna go with Mattrios and ask wtf is everyone talking about?Hes not asking for advice on how much is too much. He's asking if anyone has tried snoopys method and how it went. To answer your question. I have not tried it. I havent tried it because my stem on my KM goes so far into the base that if i tired that i wouldnt have room for some. I guess i just have a long stem.I've got one of the larger heba diffusers on my KM right now, it actually seems as if it was engineered to fit perfectly on the end of the stem, it even snaps into place! As for my method of filling the vase, I put in as little water as possible to cover my entire diffuser in order to keep the draw from being affected-->deeper stem==more water pressure to overcome while smoking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahhhdam Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 I don't understand what this "sweet spot" is. If I were to find this sweet spot, how would it change my hookah experience? Usually on my KM I just fill the vase with water untill about an inch or inch half of stem is submerged. P.S. Sorry for the thread jack just wondering what difference it would make to find this sweet spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codename067 Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 1"No more, no less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Click Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 Hmm.You got code and snoopy saying two different things. I honestly think the best thing to do is try out all the different water levels for yourself and see whats works best for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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