Bulldog_916 Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 I just got done smoking Tangiers Lucid Blue Gumball. This new iteration of Tangiers is fantastic. The blue gumball was tangy, had subtle hints of blue raspberry and blueberry, I'd like to see more of those flavorings come out in the tobacco, I could taste it well but I think there could be more melt-in-your-mouth factors with this flavor. The cut was nearly identical to the regular Tangiers, I put them side by side in 4 inch lines to do an eyeball comparison, and the Lucid has more smaller pieces, but it isnt an appreciable difference. It is also more heat resistant than regular Tangiers by far. The juices ran down my stem quite a bit, puddling on the coal tray. A phunnel is a must with this new version. Next smoke of the Lucid will be in my phunnel. I would also smoke this brand in a SuperCheif or regular Tangiers head. Probably wont get the juice run problems. On to the coals. These are the natural coconut hookah coals from Hookah Company. They are made by Abu Haitham Trading company. These are absolutely far and away the best coals I've used thus far in my hookah smoking life. They ash to barely anything, last in excess of 1 hour and 15 mins, dont impart any taste on the tobacco and light up in less than 5 minutes. They come in sticks of 4 pieces and a box contains 160 pieces. I paid just under 20 bucks for 2 boxes. When I brought out a stick I noticed they arent as dense as exoticas or easy lights, making them very easy to break along the score with your hands. But dont let that fool you. Once these babies light up they last and last. If I had a wind cover I think 1.5 hours is an acheivable standard with these coals. On comparison price-wise and quality-wise with Coconaras, I think these coals would beat them in price, and MAY or MAY NOT come in a hair under Cocos in quality. I havent used Coconaras yet, but I would be willing to bet that these coals are almost exactly the same quality-wise. Go ahead and flame me as a hater or whatever, but I think Cocos are far overpriced for what you are getting. The coals I got are $9.95 for a 160 piece box compared to Coconaras at $14.95 for a box of 84. That means you are getting 48% more for 43% less money. I did the math. If you dont believe me, pick up a box and do your own comparison. That's the challenge I'm putting out there. Go ahead and flame away, but I put on Crisco, so I'll only sizzle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickReppinThe909 Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 any pics of the coals ? un-lit, lit and on the bowl just to see how they are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldog_916 Posted June 25, 2008 Author Share Posted June 25, 2008 I'll light up a couple more after dinner. The tangiers is still good to go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OC4111 Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 I had been wondering about those coals. Thanks for the info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldog_916 Posted June 25, 2008 Author Share Posted June 25, 2008 Got the pictures:Unlit unbroken coals. 1 Stick.Different perspective, same stick. Broken coal, 2 pieces.Ash from 1 stick I used earlier. It's way less than it looks like.The coals on the stove. Ready to go after roughly 7 minutes.Coals on the bowl, Tangiers Lucid....mmm delicious. Same coals on the bowl, different perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickReppinThe909 Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 might have to order some they look very similar to coco naras Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JillyIsJustKidding Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 (edited) Awesome! I've been curious about these coals, but I have been resilient on ordering them because no one really tried them until now. Looks like I'll have to get my hands on these sometime soon BTW I have a question...When you pack the Lucid line and when you make the holes...Do you have to poke ALL the way down through the tobacco like the reg line? Or do you just poke the holes like any other brand ? Edited June 25, 2008 by JillyIsJustKidding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dom Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 (edited) QUOTE (JillyIsJustKidding @ Jun 24 2008, 11:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>BTW I have a question...When you pack the Lucid line and when you make the holes...Do you have to poke ALL the way down through the tobacco like the reg line? Or do you just poke the holes like any other brand ?it's good to poke all the way down to get better aeration in the tobacco when you smoke any kind of shisha. if you don't like doing that, though, then i'm sure it won't matter much. just your preference. experiment with that and post back here with your findings. Edited June 25, 2008 by Dom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JillyIsJustKidding Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 QUOTE (Dom @ Jun 24 2008, 07:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (JillyIsJustKidding @ Jun 24 2008, 11:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>BTW I have a question...When you pack the Lucid line and when you make the holes...Do you have to poke ALL the way down through the tobacco like the reg line? Or do you just poke the holes like any other brand ?it's good to poke all the way down to get better aeration in the tobacco when you smoke any kind of shisha. it doesn't really matter, though. if you don't like doing that, then i'm sure it won't matter much. just your preference. experiment with that and post back here with your findings. Heh its cuz Idk why...But the lucid line doesn't smoke for me >:| Like it smokes...But there is not flavor. Maybe too much heat perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dom Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 QUOTE (JillyIsJustKidding @ Jun 24 2008, 11:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Heh its cuz Idk why...But the lucid line doesn't smoke for me >:| Like it smokes...But there is not flavor. Maybe too much heat perhaps?probably not enough heat, actually. (i may be wrong. if so, someone please correct me.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JillyIsJustKidding Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 QUOTE (Dom @ Jun 24 2008, 07:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (JillyIsJustKidding @ Jun 24 2008, 11:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Heh its cuz Idk why...But the lucid line doesn't smoke for me >:| Like it smokes...But there is not flavor. Maybe too much heat perhaps?probably not enough heat, actually. (i may be wrong. if so, someone please correct me.)Idk its a bit tricky for me. If I put on heat or a windcover, that "rubbery, burnt" taste comes up, which I know means too much heat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldog_916 Posted June 25, 2008 Author Share Posted June 25, 2008 I would say go lower on the heat. For me, it could have been that the juices were running out of the tobacco which caused the loss of flavoring. I guess its best smoked out of a phunnel to keep the juices in the bowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dom Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 QUOTE (JillyIsJustKidding @ Jun 25 2008, 12:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (Dom @ Jun 24 2008, 07:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (JillyIsJustKidding @ Jun 24 2008, 11:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Heh its cuz Idk why...But the lucid line doesn't smoke for me >:| Like it smokes...But there is not flavor. Maybe too much heat perhaps?probably not enough heat, actually. (i may be wrong. if so, someone please correct me.)Idk its a bit tricky for me. If I put on heat or a windcover, that "rubbery, burnt" taste comes up, which I know means too much heat.oh yeah, if you taste that "burnout" taste, then yeah, too much heat. i had that problem when i used too much coal and i'd have to edge the coals. eric showed me that if i use fewer coals and just move them more towards the center, then helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff_T Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 QUOTE (Bulldog_916 @ Jun 24 2008, 05:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>The coals I got are $9.95 for a 160 piece box compared to Coconaras at $14.95 for a box of 84. That means you are getting 48% more for 43% less money. I did the math. If you dont believe me, pick up a box and do your own comparison. That's the challenge I'm putting out there. Go ahead and flame away, but I put on Crisco, so I'll only sizzle. If by getting more you mean 160 instead of 84, then the you're getting about 90% more. 84 + 84( .9 or 90%)=159.6 ... Anywho, I used these a while ago and really liked them. Not sure why I stopped, but I'm going to def. get some more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voski Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 I am gonna order a box of these and see what happens. Hmm now I need to order another flavor of tangiers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldog_916 Posted June 25, 2008 Author Share Posted June 25, 2008 QUOTE (Jeff_T @ Jun 24 2008, 10:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (Bulldog_916 @ Jun 24 2008, 05:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>The coals I got are $9.95 for a 160 piece box compared to Coconaras at $14.95 for a box of 84. That means you are getting 48% more for 43% less money. I did the math. If you dont believe me, pick up a box and do your own comparison. That's the challenge I'm putting out there. Go ahead and flame away, but I put on Crisco, so I'll only sizzle. If by getting more you mean 160 instead of 84, then the you're getting about 90% more. 84 + 84( .9 or 90%)=159.6 ... Anywho, I used these a while ago and really liked them. Not sure why I stopped, but I'm going to def. get some more.Shit, I forgot about the percentage system. 84/160 is .52 or 52%. So yea you do almost get double the amount. Thanks. Bulldog_916- Going back to math class....haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamscott06 Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 To bad I just bought a box of coconaros and exotica.. I'll pick some up next time for sure. Thanks for the pics and info bulldog! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AzZ Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 Those look very similar to Coco's so probably perform similar to them. We need somone to do a comparison review for both Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hookah hippie Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 It says on hookah company's website that there is 104 charcoal squares not 160 are you sure on your number Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldog_916 Posted June 25, 2008 Author Share Posted June 25, 2008 (edited) Yea, I have the box. HAHA. 160 pieces.I would lay down some dough for a sample pack of coconaras for a comparison but the shipping would be quite prohibitive. Grrr. Edited June 25, 2008 by Bulldog_916 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldog_916 Posted June 25, 2008 Author Share Posted June 25, 2008 QUOTE (iamscott06 @ Jun 25 2008, 06:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>To bad I just bought a box of coconaros and exotica.. I'll pick some up next time for sure. Thanks for the pics and info bulldog!You are quite welcome bud. I'm hoping that if the manufacturer of Coconaras sees competition they'll drop the prices to a more competitive level. Just trying to look out for everyone here a little bit as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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