pingywon Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 Ok so my only complaint about being a HSE (Hookah Smoking Enthusiast) is the price of coals. I cant get coals locally - so I must order them and pay shipping. It kills me to have to pay shipping on something that turns to ash.Why hasnt anyone though of a fixture that mounts on a bowl or is part of a bowl - that either plugs in to the wall (or battery powerd) that straps on and heats the bowl (think cigarette car lighter). It could have a lil dial on it to let you manage the heat ...think about the possibilitiesI use to race R/C Nitro cars and there is a "Glow plug Warmer" that straps on and heats up your glow plug for easy motor starting - again thing car cig lighter....im not saying this would be the best invention ...but why hasnt anyone tried to make one.I understand coals have thier place traditionally and all ....but why not.I tried looking for a pic of a glow plug warmer to give yall an idea of what im talking about, but I didnt find one (i didnt look that hard really) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 very hard to regulate heat.coals heat up when you inhale, and cool down when you aren't. people have tried, the closest thing as someone suggested was a ceramic coil that would heat up, however the price was extremely high from the guys original schematics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pingywon Posted June 27, 2008 Author Share Posted June 27, 2008 ..so it has been thought of ... i have never heard anything about it ...what you say makes sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimplexCoda Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 ya i have seen like 6 posts on this one, and appearently it comes down to the making it heat up when you hit and cool when just sitting, and appearently the device that makes it do that is fairly expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fineout Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 how about having a thin wire that goes from the heater atop the bowl, then the wire can even coil up the rings of the hose. then with a button on the handle of the hose that you press when you inhale and let go when you exhale, im sure if you add more current into the heater it will heat up and then when you let it go it will cool down? granted its another step to setting up the hookah but it wouldnt be too bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pingywon Posted June 27, 2008 Author Share Posted June 27, 2008 FIIIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNEEEEEEEEEEEEEE .....ruin my dreams!lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimplexCoda Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 lol not tryin to ruin anything. Just tryin to say that its not as simple as it sounds. You can give it a shot and if it works i know i would get one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bayne Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 What about the Electric Hookah? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Boss Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 Hookah-Shisha has a product like that, an electric bowl heater. I hear that the heat is very difficult to manage but once you get it, its fantastic. I'd put a link up but HS is being retarded at the time being.Edit: I checked and I didn't find it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuburbanSmoker Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 the bigest problem with an electric heater would be the fluctuation in heat. With coals when in a lull state (not pulling) arent nearly as hot as when you do pull. This fluctuation is what makes it so the bowl doesnt completely turn to shit.You would have to figure out a way to make the heat fluctuate, essentially an on off switch with different levels of heat to make it simulate coals. Ive seen designs for these and they are really expensive and most the time dont work for shit. Sure you can get pulls for 5-10 minutes, but after that the bowl is screwed. Nothing compares to the real thing. at least not yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom1 Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 QUOTE (pingywon @ Jun 27 2008, 03:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>my new invention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldog_916 Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 you need a pressure indicator inside the hose, when it detects low pressure it heats the coil and when the pressure returns to normal, it cools. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voski Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 Maybe a more simple way would be to have a rotor type thing installed in the downstem. So when you take a hit it would spin and tell the computer that you are taking a hit so the coals would heat up. When the rotor is stationary it would let the computer know that a hit is not being taken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skaplayer89 Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 Or just heat something that doesn´t turn to ash..........Have a foil screen with a higher resistence to conduction, and the heat will only enter the tobacco when you take a hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SafeSearchOff Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 that doesnt work ska, the shisha has to be hot enough before more heat enters to produce the smoke... going from room temperature to boiling.... not possible every hit.i remember when some1 did this about a year to a year and a half ago, maybe even longer. he was an electrical engineer, and he rigged some coils through a quick-cast cement ring the size of his bowl. his only problem was thath the concrete he was using would sort of melt as time went on, but he was successful for about 2 minutes. he wanted to order more secure cut-outs from a large manufacturer, but he had to order some ridiculously high amount as a minimum, and it wasnt worth it for him.definately possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j3oomerang Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 (edited) If you have a cylindrical apparatus on top of the bowl, where you can adjust the distance of the heating filament from the bowl, it might work. If it gets too hot, simply raise the filament. Since hot air goes up, it seems this might work. Instead of moving the coals around you play with the distance.I also like the idea of having a trigger on the hose handle. When it’s not being hit, the filament can be like 300 degrees, but when you take a hit, you press the button and it goes up to 700 degrees (make the on and off temperature customizable so there can be tweaks for every type of tobacco and weather). You would need a filament that can change temperatures fast, and after a while you'd figure out how to use the trigger (ex. hold it for two seconds before hitting, or take 2-3 hits with it pressed down, then take 2-3 more without it pressed). Someone just needs to make it happen. It’s nothing complicated if you have the right tools and know how (which I have neither of). I’d buy one. Edited June 28, 2008 by j3oomerang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninjalex Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 I like the above idea. If you could somehow find a small enough electric stove coil and mount it above the bowl that could possibly work. You would have to find the sweet spot for the right amount of heat you turn the coil up to and the distance from the bowl, but I don't see how that could be too hard to manage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sariél Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 put a simple flow switch in the stem of the bowl, when you inhale, it ups the voltage to the heater coil, and to the red LEDs that you embed in the bowl just because it looks cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilikemyusername Posted June 29, 2008 Share Posted June 29, 2008 here we go again.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pingywon Posted June 29, 2008 Author Share Posted June 29, 2008 I didn't realize we were "going again".....the diagram above looks on point as far as something that could work - but I guess the common concencous is that this is not an economically feasible (mass producible) item...thanks for all the input guys ....its better then another epic - FTW! +1 post ...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoresidejake Posted June 29, 2008 Share Posted June 29, 2008 We're working on "re-usable/recyclable" coals that are both eco friendly and produce the perfect amount of heat. We're working on a prototype now and also filing for a patent. I'll keep you updated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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