chubbleton Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 Hello my friends.I have been smoking the hookah for about two years now. I have two Mya's, and a Social Smoke. All of them are seriously low quality pieces of crap, and I have had enough.I am certainly a serious smoker now, and I want to invest in a smoking machine which will last years and provide with the highest quality materials.Some info on me;I only smoke TangiersI only use a phunnelI use Nammor HosesI only use single hosed hookah'sSo, you might gather that the only important parts of this requested hookah to be meaningful, would be the stem and jar.26" to 36". Any size is fine. I am just looking for the highest quality craftsmanship and materials. Price is not really that important, as long as it is not outrageous.I thank all of you for your amazing community and support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OC4111 Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 KM FTW!!!. gothookahs.com has about 5 or 6 models available right now. Plus they're running a sale for 15% off using code KM0707. Also you can check out hookahcompany.com(disc. code:hookahforum) and thehookah.com(disc. code:hookahforum08) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Boss Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 QUOTE (OC4111 @ Jun 27 2008, 04:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>KM FTW!!!. gothookahs.com has about 5 or 6 models available right now. Plus they're running a sale for 15% off using code KM0707. Also you can check out hookahcompany.com(disc. code:hookahforum) and thehookah.com(disc. code:hookahforum08)I second that. I'll also recommend hookahcompany.com. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guyt Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 KM is the bomb, I just got the Blue triple pear from thehookah.com, That thing is a beast, it is sooooo good. I ditched the standard KM base and am using a large Bohemian base I had from a previous pipe. It looks so sweet!! but yeah KM are the best, their new ice bucket ones look really nice too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giant Ninja Robot Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 I don't know from experience but it seems like everyone is in love with KMs for their top notch craftsmanship, even though they look slightly cheaper than myas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 nour syrian. end of thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobbed Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 a chinese rotator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 QUOTE (mobbed @ Jun 27 2008, 07:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>a chinese rotator...lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victim026 Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 QUOTE (Scoop @ Jun 27 2008, 07:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>nour syrian. end of threadNow if only we could find a reliable vendor for these.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimplexCoda Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 Well in terms of an Egyptian sytle of pipe, KM or MZ is the top of the line. The only reason i could see that you would say they look cheaper than Mya's is that KMs are handmade and Myas are machine made. Trust me thought Kms outweigh myas by a ton. They are heavy sturdy and durable. I would recomend hookahcompany, thehookah, or gothookahs to buy from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilikemyusername Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 mehmya is machine made-fuckemKhalil Mamoun is hand made with visible welds and an inconsisntent product-fuckemMagdy zidan is handmade with an eye on craftsmanship, and a little something called quality control-don't fuckemalso, MZ's are typically around 40 dollars less than a KM, that speaks volumes in my bookKM you are paying for the name, kinda like a pair of nikeMZyou pay for the craftsmanship, kinda like dickies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victim026 Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 QUOTE (ilikemyusername @ Jun 27 2008, 09:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>mehmya is machine made-fuckemKhalil Mamoun is hand made with visible welds and an inconsisntent product-fuckemMagdy zidan is handmade with an eye on craftsmanship, and a little something called quality control-don't fuckemalso, MZ's are typically around 40 dollars less than a KM, that speaks volumes in my bookKM you are paying for the name, kinda like a pair of nikeMZyou pay for the craftsmanship, kinda like dickies.It's obvious you've never owned a KM.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilikemyusername Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 (edited) QUOTE (Victim026 @ Jun 27 2008, 10:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (ilikemyusername @ Jun 27 2008, 09:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>mehmya is machine made-fuckemKhalil Mamoun is hand made with visible welds and an inconsisntent product-fuckemMagdy zidan is handmade with an eye on craftsmanship, and a little something called quality control-don't fuckemalso, MZ's are typically around 40 dollars less than a KM, that speaks volumes in my bookKM you are paying for the name, kinda like a pair of nikeMZyou pay for the craftsmanship, kinda like dickies.It's obvious you've never owned a KM....yeah, i have a hafa, i don't care much for it. it's okay, but i don't see what all the hype is about, perhaps i never will.for like i said, 40 dollars less my MZ nefertiti works just as well, and looks nicer. Edited June 28, 2008 by ilikemyusername Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chubbleton Posted June 28, 2008 Author Share Posted June 28, 2008 Great input guys, I thank you for your shared knowledge.I will do more research into both KM and MZ, and finally pick one out.Have a great weekend, everyone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racemyghost Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 how did i know this is going to turn into a KM/MZ thread?Seriously, i just picked up a Mya QT and i love the damn thing. Its my new go to hookah actually...while the KM chills out and will only get used if im smoking with more then 2 people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codename067 Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 QUOTE (ilikemyusername @ Jun 27 2008, 08:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>mehmya is machine made-fuckemKhalil Mamoun is hand made with visible welds and an inconsisntent product-fuckemMagdy zidan is handmade with an eye on craftsmanship, and a little something called quality control-don't fuckemalso, MZ's are typically around 40 dollars less than a KM, that speaks volumes in my bookKM you are paying for the name, kinda like a pair of nikeMZyou pay for the craftsmanship, kinda like dickies.You should come and have a smoke with me one day. You will never say what you said about KMs ever again. Trust me.I suggest a KM. Or Good Syrian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esheg4ever23 Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 What's with all the Mya haters? They aren't THAT bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victim026 Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 Honestly no hookah will be bad if you can get your heat management down with the shisha and coals you use. I can easily get all the smoke I want outta my Km's, my MZ's, or any of my friends hookahs which run from no namers to big and small Mya's as long as I've got my small phunnel some al waha and exoticas. Personally though i prefer the effortless pull of the wider stem of my KM Mash'al and it's excellent purging abilites compared to what else is on the market. Just get whatever you want and learn how to make it smoke like crazy, it'll come with time and practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esheg4ever23 Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 QUOTE (Victim026 @ Jun 27 2008, 11:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Honestly no hookah will be bad if you can get your heat management down with the shisha and coals you use. I can easily get all the smoke I want outta my Km's, my MZ's, or any of my friends hookahs which run from no namers to big and small Mya's as long as I've got my small phunnel some al waha and exoticas. Personally though i prefer the effortless pull of the wider stem of my KM Mash'al and it's excellent purging abilites compared to what else is on the market. Just get whatever you want and learn how to make it smoke like crazy, it'll come with time and practice.Well yeah I completely agree, but I'm talking in terms of quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victim026 Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 QUOTE (esheg4ever23 @ Jun 28 2008, 12:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (Victim026 @ Jun 27 2008, 11:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Honestly no hookah will be bad if you can get your heat management down with the shisha and coals you use. I can easily get all the smoke I want outta my Km's, my MZ's, or any of my friends hookahs which run from no namers to big and small Mya's as long as I've got my small phunnel some al waha and exoticas. Personally though i prefer the effortless pull of the wider stem of my KM Mash'al and it's excellent purging abilites compared to what else is on the market. Just get whatever you want and learn how to make it smoke like crazy, it'll come with time and practice.Well yeah I completely agree, but I'm talking in terms of quality.Your not gonna go wrong with a KM, MZ, or a Mya then.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codename067 Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 You see..when I don't recommend a MYA, it does not mean that I hate it. It's just not my cup of tea when it comes to Hookahs, so I don't mention it at all.Liking hookahs is similar to liking cars, or anything that you like over something else. You choose to like a certain car more than another, and everyone has their favorite things/brands [Cars, music, movie genres...ect]My favorite car [to my current budget] is a STiMy favorite music is TranceMy favorite movie genre is Drama and Action My favorite Hookah is a KMSimple as that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MechAnt Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 Choose whatever pipe you like, it is YOUR pipe. Each has their own ups and downs that's for sure but with MYA, MZ, and KM, you can't lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chubbleton Posted June 28, 2008 Author Share Posted June 28, 2008 QUOTE (Victim026 @ Jun 28 2008, 12:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Honestly no hookah will be bad if you can get your heat management down with the shisha and coals you use. I can easily get all the smoke I want outta my Km's, my MZ's, or any of my friends hookahs which run from no namers to big and small Mya's as long as I've got my small phunnel some al waha and exoticas. Personally though i prefer the effortless pull of the wider stem of my KM Mash'al and it's excellent purging abilites compared to what else is on the market. Just get whatever you want and learn how to make it smoke like crazy, it'll come with time and practice.I would really like to stress that I do know how to smoke correctly and successfully. My issue is the quality of the components. Particularly the stem.Both of my Mya stems are hollow cavernous sharp taste/smell collecting grossholes. I want a solid brass (or comparable) pipe which is 100% easier to clean, and potentially wider. My Mya stems both have small choke-points which restrict airflow.A purge that actually cleans the whole chamber, instead up just the top fifth would also be nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralleac Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 (edited) QUOTE (chubbleton @ Jun 27 2008, 04:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Some info on me;I only smoke TangiersI only use a phunnelI use Nammor HosesI only use single hosed hookah'sFirst, what kind of pipe do you prefer aside from single hoses? Social Smoke carried some quality solid brass Syrians up until several months ago, and they still have some well-made Egyptian Magdy Zidans on hand. The quality and durability of a Mya is hard to beat as far as chinese brands are concerned due to their solid brass cast stems and the fact that Mya also specializes in glass/crystal along with hookahs.Second, if you're in Vancouver, Wa. let me know if you're down for a smoke sometime. It seems like nobody around here knows what Tangiers is. edit....QUOTE Both of my Mya stems are hollow cavernous sharp taste/smell collecting grossholes. I want a solid brass (or comparable) pipe which is 100% easier to clean, and potentially wider. My Mya stems both have small choke-points which restrict airflow.Your best bet is to surf the online vendors looking for solid brass Syrians. Edited June 28, 2008 by Ralleac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victim026 Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 QUOTE (chubbleton @ Jun 28 2008, 02:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (Victim026 @ Jun 28 2008, 12:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Honestly no hookah will be bad if you can get your heat management down with the shisha and coals you use. I can easily get all the smoke I want outta my Km's, my MZ's, or any of my friends hookahs which run from no namers to big and small Mya's as long as I've got my small phunnel some al waha and exoticas. Personally though i prefer the effortless pull of the wider stem of my KM Mash'al and it's excellent purging abilites compared to what else is on the market. Just get whatever you want and learn how to make it smoke like crazy, it'll come with time and practice.I would really like to stress that I do know how to smoke correctly and successfully. My issue is the quality of the components. Particularly the stem.Both of my Mya stems are hollow cavernous sharp taste/smell collecting grossholes. I want a solid brass (or comparable) pipe which is 100% easier to clean, and potentially wider. My Mya stems both have small choke-points which restrict airflow.A purge that actually cleans the whole chamber, instead up just the top fifth would also be nice.If that's the case then and you wanna get away from the Myas then MZ and KM are your best bet. No promisies on solid brass as MZ's don't have it and KM seems to be going in a different direction but either way both pipe are amazing. I've only had my KM's for a few months so i can't speak long term on them, but my very first MZ last 2 years before I made the call to retire it(and I retired it with tons of life left in it too). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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