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QUOTE (mushrat @ Jun 30 2008, 07:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
First off. There are legal requirements for carrying on a lottery. If other forums want to violate that law that's their business. Next, wehat makes you think ANY of us have the time to set this up, get the program to do it, count the tickets, make the order, ship it, etc. We all have real jobs and semi-real lives and keeping track of the ZOO you are suggesting is way beyond the need to have it.

Seconmd, why do wereally need to do this in the first place? A change to get more free goodies? Hmmm...i think we'll let people support the forum by becoming premium members. If you really want to help, buy stuff from the company that owns this place.


Quite.
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I have to chime in and say, why do we need this? More members? We're already up the butthole with members and a company owns this forum. If anything, purchase from the company that owns the forum, that would really support the forum. Lottos would be a legal problem let alone giving away tobacco as a prize. It's gonna be an administrative nightmare.

We don't need this and I know the members here are better than resorting to buying a ticket and hoping for freebies. That's why I like this forum.
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I'm with Mush and MechAnt on this one. Yeah, it'd be neat if we had a contest like this but we can't snap our fingers and will it into existence. Secondly, do we really need to have a contest like this? Other forums have them, yeah, but I don't want this place to be like other forums. I love this place just the way it is.
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QUOTE (SafeSearchOff @ Jun 30 2008, 07:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
think about it tho - if some scrub comes in, makes 5 posts, and then wins a forum lottery, you think hes going to ditch the place that just gave him $30 of free goods?

people all leave eventually, i think the scrubs should be allowed to play.



also, i think your putting to much pressure and reliance on mush to do this. obviously, mush seems like a logical choice because he can get it programmed into the forum (...somehow...). but, not to stick it to you, if you two are so intrigued by this idea... why dont you try and run it? i mean, unless mush says okay. but running the forum, a hookah bar, getting a second one open, and then a complex raffle... you might be stackin his plates too high there.


Well i wasnt sayin to have mush run it, I was saying that since he is the admin we would have to have it approved by him. Those are two way way different things.


QUOTE (jezter6 @ Jun 30 2008, 08:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think lotteries (where you sell tickets) are illegal without a permit and would get the place in more trouble than it's worth...

Personally, I'd like to see these vendors man up and be part of a monthly drawing (free) where they donate some stuff to give away.

Entry would be that you have to do something (like make a funny photoshop hookah image, write a funny post in a certain give-away thread, etc) so that people that never post don't win.




Also this has been called a lottery. What i meant to call this was a raffle. That is perfectly legal. I have seen everyone and their mom from churches to radio stations (i have worked at both) do raffles and never have to get any sort of legal permission.
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QUOTE (SimplexCoda @ Jun 30 2008, 05:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (SafeSearchOff @ Jun 30 2008, 07:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
think about it tho - if some scrub comes in, makes 5 posts, and then wins a forum lottery, you think hes going to ditch the place that just gave him $30 of free goods?

people all leave eventually, i think the scrubs should be allowed to play.



also, i think your putting to much pressure and reliance on mush to do this. obviously, mush seems like a logical choice because he can get it programmed into the forum (...somehow...). but, not to stick it to you, if you two are so intrigued by this idea... why dont you try and run it? i mean, unless mush says okay. but running the forum, a hookah bar, getting a second one open, and then a complex raffle... you might be stackin his plates too high there.


Well i wasnt sayin to have mush run it, I was saying that since he is the admin we would have to have it approved by him. Those are two way way different things.


QUOTE (jezter6 @ Jun 30 2008, 08:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think lotteries (where you sell tickets) are illegal without a permit and would get the place in more trouble than it's worth...

Personally, I'd like to see these vendors man up and be part of a monthly drawing (free) where they donate some stuff to give away.

Entry would be that you have to do something (like make a funny photoshop hookah image, write a funny post in a certain give-away thread, etc) so that people that never post don't win.




Also this has been called a lottery. What i meant to call this was a raffle. That is perfectly legal. I have seen everyone and their mom from churches to radio stations (i have worked at both) do raffles and never have to get any sort of legal permission.


well..raffles are different than lotteries..but there are still some legal rules even to a raffle...

I think its a cool idea..but not one *I'D* like to see...
Now I don't own the forums, Hookahkings does, but i know *I* wouldn't want to run an idea as complex as that.
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All I got to say is its a cool idea but more trouble than its worth, if any of you remember I tried something simmlar to this when I first started posting here that was a PIA to run and ended up failing.
+1 to becoming a premium mem and ordering from hookah kings.


Mike
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I hope I didn't sound overly negative on my previous post. If we can find a easy way to do then by all means, we should do it. Also, I don't think we should just do it because other forums are doing it if you all know what I mean.
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This is a great idea, and Snoops idea of a pay pal account seems like it would work well for this "raffle". I have never bought from Hookah Kings but if they have a gift certificate program like HS does the winner could just get a gift certificate to Hookah Kings which would help support the forum.
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QUOTE (Toxik916 @ Jul 1 2008, 03:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This is a great idea, and Snoops idea of a pay pal account seems like it would work well for this "raffle". I have never bought from Hookah Kings but if they have a gift certificate program like HS does the winner could just get a gift certificate to Hookah Kings which would help support the forum.



true, and thats a good idea, but i don't think it's going to happen.
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