Alzheimers

[mattathayde]

Aluminum in the brian is a result of alz not a cause of it, your brain passages are too small for the al to pass in to it until the disease has damaged the brain

now i want to know where you have an aluminum grill, since AL is rather low melting its a terrible choice for grills.

i will say thought if you get a metal hot enough to burn that is very very very bad, and some metals (like lead) cause issues from ingesting them, but remember you need a lot of metals to function i.e. iron. potassium, magnesium, sodium metal, zinc

-matt

[ryno]

Seeing as Alzheimers, heart disease, heart attack, and cancer runs in my family, I'm not too concerned

[mattathayde]

also they found that smokers and coffee drinkers have less rate of the disease so ya it should balance out
-matt

[mattathayde]

double post Edited July 18, 2008 by mattathayde

[shukaronin]

also they found that smokers and coffee drinkers have less rate of the disease so ya it should balance out
-matt

This is may actually be somewhat true, despite how illogical it may sound given the fact that we are always told nicotine caffeine and alcohol are such evil, evil things. As it turns out there have been some studies that indicate all three may reduce one's risk at developing Alzheimer's disease (AD). The reduction in risk is not all that great, however, just simply reductions the scientists found to be statistically significant. Which can be entirely different from the change-how-you-live-everyday significance that we all strive to hear about.

The important thing to remember with almost any information out there on "things" that may increase or reduce one's risk to developing AD, only a few have an even slightly plausible mechanism to cause the disease state. Of those, most are genetic risk factors that you have no control over anyway. Further, the single greatest risk factor to getting AD is age.

I'd suggest checking out this link:

http://www.alzheimers.org.uk/site/scripts/...p?documentID=99

A site that attempts to put the literature in perspective and outlines, on this particular page, the potential role aluminum has in the development of AD. To sum it up briefly, evidence for aluminum's role in causing AD is minimal at best, and at times even directly found to have seemingly no influence. You're likely safe smoking out of that hookah with a foil cover, having studied this subject a bit I have no qualms about using aluminum. I trust the shisha, with the tar content and what not, is far more toxic than the foil cover.

Of any that may be interested in reading a review of potential risk factors for various neurological disorders, like Parkinson's and ALS, I might rec. reading this review paper: Epidemiology of Neurodegeneration by one Richard Mayeux. Though it's starting to be a bit dated being written in 2003, and I'm not certain how difficult it may be to view without paying for it =/.

[EvansLight]

My grandmother is currently dying of Alzheimers. Its a pretty awful thing...

El aint got much to add but i feel ya man. a few years after i was born my grandmother was diagnosed with it. I have lived with my grandfather all my life, so i spent most of my childhood dealing with it, and living in that world. I know what you and your family is going through, and i wish yall all the best.

[Big Boss]

My grandmother is currently dying of Alzheimers. Its a pretty awful thing...

My grandmother died as a result of Alzheimers Disease. It was hard watching her waste away like that, but take comfort in knowing that she is in a much better place now.

[esheg4ever23]

I just looked it up. The melting point of aluminum is 1220.58 °F. I do not think my coals get even close. My hookah would explode.

I am not sure if they are talking about melting..I believe they are talking about a point of heat where particles from the aluminum will start to vaporize, and in that vaporizing process, we are taking drags after drags.

Ok, the temperature of an object is just the average of all the molecules in it's kinetic energy. So if something is at 500 degrees, some particles are at 700 degrees, some are at 200, a couple may be at 1200, but the point is a temperature is actually a kinetic average. So let's say a coal burns at 600 degrees farhenheight. Well, chances are only a tiny percentage would even be nearly hot enough to be in the liquid phase, and would quickly convert back to the solid phase, back and forth back and forth. Anyways, if aluminum boils at 4566 degrees farhenheight, the chance that an object with a 600 degree temperature has a substantial percentage of molecules with enough kinetic energy is extraordinarilty small. Even if a standard deviation is 100 degrees, you are talking about almost 40 standard deviations from the mean. And I don't know how many of you take statistics, but that is negligible.

Let's get technical!

You brokeded my brain too. Edited July 18, 2008 by esheg4ever23

[vaypourus]

I know what you and your family is going through, and i wish yall all the best.

Thanks man.

[Giant Ninja Robot]

I never knew that the temperature of an object is in flux on the molecular level. Pretty cool. Thanks for the science lesson Nate!

[greeknate88]

I never knew that the temperature of an object is in flux on the molecular level. Pretty cool. Thanks for the science lesson Nate!

Haha, no problem. I know maybe it was a little too detailed, but I thought I would try to help explain scientifically why aluminum vaporizing isn't really possible at hookah-smoking temperatures.