Ogrt48 Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 i just got my hookah this mourningi've never even done hookah beforei'm using the grape flavor socialsmoke includedfirst 30 minutes were fine i felt a tad dizzy and buzzed.. smoke started getting too thin so i put a new coal oni'm 45 minutes in really really dizzy, i feel like i'm gonna vomit and i'm in a cold cold sweat like i drank way to much or something.. = help i'm scare Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ioannisds Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 What brand of shisha is it? About the only thing that really does that to me anymore is Nakhla, and even then it is hit or miss. Since it is your first time, I would say that sounds kinda normal. Maybe give us a little bit more detail as to your set-up, etc. Did you follow the instructions that came with your hookah? Did you wait for the coals to completely ash over before you tossed them on the bowl? Here is what I do to set my hookah up, and I am always happy with the smoke I get:1) Water in base about an inch over the bottom of the stem. Once you find the right spot, you can usually find some decorative aspect of the base to help you remember where to fill to.2) Loosely sprinkle the shisha into the bowl, with maybe an 1/8" or so left before the top. I VERY SLIGHTLY even out the top of the tobacco so that it doesn't stick to the foil. Just don't pack it.3) Place the foil snugly over the top of the bowl. There are other folks here who use/love screens (I was one of them), but once I switched to foil, I felt I got a much better smoke.4) I like the foil pattern on the Hookah Culture website. It seems to be very consistent for me:[url="http://www.hookahculture.com/hookah_setup_smoking.htm"]http://www.hookahculture.com/hookah_setup_smoking.htm[/url]There is lots of other great information on that page as well.5) I use two 33mm Three Kings coals. Once they are COMPLETELY GLOWING, I put them on the bowl next to one another. Take some nice deep puffs, and once you get good smoke thickness, move the coals 1/4 of the way around the bowl. I use the pattern on the foil to help me keep track of where I have moved them.6) With two coals, I have to move them around more often to prevent scorching the shisha. You will have to experiment and see how often you need to move them for your own set-up/personal taste. With this set-up, I usually get 45 minutes to an hour of good smoke, depending on the brand. The two coals are all I end up using, as I really don't like to smoke for hours and hours. When all is said and done, most of the shisha in the bowl has been used up, with maybe a little wet stuff at the very bottom. If you want a longer smoke, maybe put a little bit more tobacco in the bowl, and throw another coal on once the first two stop doing their job. Whatever you end up doing, I think through trial and error you should eventually be quite pleased with your smoking experience. If these symptoms you describe happen everytime you smoke, then I really don't know what to say. Welcome to the forum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peanut Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 you might have overdone it considering it was your first time. i personally feel like i would pass out if i smoked one bowlful all by myself, usually i split one bowl with 3-4 people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iheartvarg1 Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 the only thing that buzzes me any more is tangiers...oh that wonderful black stuff!what foil did you use? if you use cheap foil or heavy duty foil you will likely get a MASSIVE migrane. thats one lesson i had to learn the hard way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushrat Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 I suspect peanut it right. I can guess how it went, Ogrt got the hookah going and puffed and puffed and forgot to do little things like come up for some fresh air. Especially if he/she was doing it alone. Nothing to break up the puffing like conversation or passing the hose...[img]http://hookahforum.com/forum/smileys/smiley11.gif[/img] So no matter what esle you do...SLOW DOWN. Take a deep breath, get up and get a snack, have a few sips of your drink while you smoke...that sorta thing. Remember Ma'asell is STILL tobacco and if you aren't used to smoking its GOING to effect you. Happy smoking! [img]http://hookahforum.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HooKaholiC818 Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 Did you eat beforehand?? thats exactly what happends to me when i dont eat b4 hookah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogrt48 Posted January 3, 2006 Author Share Posted January 3, 2006 Ah it was probably a combo of too much and not eating. I hadn't had food for atleast 15 hours.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmexx Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 I've heard of this before... STOP SMOKING!! DO NOT SMOKE YOUR HOOKAH AGAIN! Last time this happened to a friend of mine and exactly seven days, to the hour, after he smoked the hookah for his first time, he grew warts on his nipples.Sorry, it's perfectly normal, you're just a newb to the smoking scene and all will be well after you get used to it. Calm down a bit on the first few sessions, try to smoke with a couple people or take long breaks.Jon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogrt48 Posted January 4, 2006 Author Share Posted January 4, 2006 Heh, I just smoked for my 2nd time. This time another brand and flavor I had. I used Al-Waha mint. This one didn't make me sick at all, infact I noticed a few differences between the brand. The buzz was extremely low with this one. I felt the smoke was alot less but lasted just as long if not longer over all. The mint flavor was also not as profound as the grapes. kinda lika smoking a very mild tic tac. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iheartvarg1 Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 give nakhla mint a shot. for smoking straight mint, its my favorite. always gives that nice icy feeling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmexx Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 With the mint I normally like to chop and dice a couple mint leaves and mix it with the tobacco.It actually makes the smoke a little smoother and less harsh, give it a shot.Jon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonthert Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 [quote name='jmexx']I've heard of this before... STOP SMOKING!! DO NOT SMOKE YOUR HOOKAH AGAIN! Last time this happened to a friend of mine and exactly seven days, to the hour, after he smoked the hookah for his first time, he grew warts on his nipples. Sorry, it's perfectly normal, you're just a newb to the smoking scene and all will be well after you get used to it. Calm down a bit on the first few sessions, try to smoke with a couple people or take long breaks. Jon[/quote]Not funny. really. For Newb, be careful, I like to and recommend to other people that they don't hold their breath. Some people act like its that "wile veed" and take a big hit and hold their breaths as long as they can. Can you say brain damage? Pace yourself, learn how much is too much. Also watch the "Leave it to Beaver" episode where Beaver and Larry Mondello steal the tobacco from cigarette butts and smoke it out of Ward's pipe that Fred Rutherford sent him from Germany, I believe its a mersatz pipe. Anyhow, they feel awful and they feel like they are turning green. I think most of us have felt that way over the years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogrt48 Posted January 4, 2006 Author Share Posted January 4, 2006 Thanks for all the tips. Btw, I dont try holding it in at all. I just suck a good ammount in and blow it out trying to make rings. I just have 2 flavors by Al amir, both make me really sick = The one alwaha I have doesn't really make me that sick, just a little head ache and buzz but it has less flavor than the others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c4r80n Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 I remember at a cigar tasting event at a local shop, a kid smoked too much of his cigar (inhaled too?) and with all the second hand smoke going on....ended up puking behind the dumpster.haha.I myself felt woozy after only like 2 inches and I stopped. Wicked buzz from the second hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gib0r Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 might have a little bit to do with the coals. I find that quick lights give me a really bad headache that won't go away without lodine and sleep. The coconut charcoal I've been using however, bothers me not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghunfrytimma Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 yea like tangiers said...i think weve all been there before...just some growing pains....if your using "quick lite" coals remember to light them outside as you can come into contact with two much carbon monoxide if you light them in a confined space and inhale them...and as stated abvet make sure they are completely lit and remember that smoking hookah is a social experience...its about relaxation and enjoying the time around the piece..mayb try havin a friend help you out during your next session so you have someone to pass the hose to....good luck the rest of the way though and welcome to the forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donkeema Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 wow - this actully happend to me today, i went to one shisha shop smoked shisha for a good hour, went out , went to another shisha shop and had some shisha. started getting a headrush and went out. striaght away i puked and was not happy.i think it was the cold air that got me the most because inside it was warm and the air was full of smoke. outside it was cold and fresh. well as fresh as inner city air can get! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HookahDuck Posted March 12, 2006 Share Posted March 12, 2006 Ollld topic guys. This one has been brought up many times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pavlakos_politakos Posted March 12, 2006 Share Posted March 12, 2006 [quote name='Ogrt48']Thanks for all the tips. Btw, I dont try holding it in at all. I just suck a good ammount in and blow it out trying to make rings. I just have 2 flavors by Al amir, both make me really sick = The one alwaha I have doesn't really make me that sick, just a little head ache and buzz but it has less flavor than the others.[/quote] for some reason every time i try to blow Os i end up gagging my ass off and occasionally puke.i get the coldsweats and headache too,but usually only when i try blowing Os.....*shrugs* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HookahCaterpillar Posted March 12, 2006 Share Posted March 12, 2006 Ive had that before. What i suggest is to take it easy dont smoke that much shisha until you get used to it. I have been smoking shisha for quite awhile now and i hardly ever get those symptoms but when i started i did. I occasionally will get lightheaded and muscles are sometimes weak. The parking lot at my school is like a 10 minute walk from my dorm so i will smoke shisha and then go park my car and walk back and i have to take like 10 breaks on the way back to my dorm its so hard on me. If you ever get those symptoms i suggest going outside and getting some fresh air and take really deep breaths and relax for a couple minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HookahCaterpillar Posted March 12, 2006 Share Posted March 12, 2006 sorry for a double post but i have had that issue with my bowl not fitting good and what i do is wrap the top of the hookah with a single layer of foil and then poke a hole where there is a hole in the stem and then put the bowl on top it provides a snugger fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonthert Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 I still get the "white boot" every now and again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukasa Posted May 13, 2006 Share Posted May 13, 2006 I only get stomach ache/headache/woozy feeling when i havent eaten anything during/before i smoke. Besides that, i enjoy a healthy buzz. Nakhla double apple knocks my ass out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve07 Posted May 13, 2006 Share Posted May 13, 2006 Try not to inhale every hit and just take small puffs and see if that helps out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inimicus Posted May 13, 2006 Share Posted May 13, 2006 Memories :DThe first time I packed a bowl myself (all the other occasions had been at a hookah cafe) was on a little hookah my girlfriend's dad had brought her home from Iran.The bowl easily fit the entire 50g package of Romman Sweet Melon. We didn't know any better, it fit in so well we figured we were supposed to put the whole package in.This was early in my hookah smoking. I would probably go to the hookah cafe a couple times a week, sharing two or three hookahs with five or more friends a night. So all in all I wasn't used to nicotine or tobacco in general as I am now.My girlfriend, her two roommates, and myself sat around the hookah on the coffee table, watched TV, talked, and so it goes.About an hour later, the hookah was still going strong. Everyone aside from myself had given it a rest.About 30-45 minutes later, I got up to get a drink. I had some water and suddenly felt like I was going to pass out. Vision blackening, cold sweat, dizziness, nausea, you name it. I felt awful. I curled up into fetal position on my girlfriend's bed and soon the world's spinning started to slow down.I think I eventually fell asleep (or something) as I couldn't tell you any events after that.Needless to say it was a learning experience. Haven't had a night like that since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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