Canon Posted August 6, 2008 Share Posted August 6, 2008 http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?newsid=1181839propaganda at its best.QUOTE (BMC)Hookah is worse than cigarettesSmoking hookahs is more hazardous than smoking cigarettes and its toxic and poisonous mix can even cause death, the BMC’s latest affidavit filed in the Bombay High Court says.Quoting Internet reports, the affidavit says “hookah contains noxious, addictive, adulterated and poisonous concoction (which is otherwise unfit for human consumption and not even classified as food product) and which is likely to cause diseases, disability and death because of the highly toxic, poisonous and gaseous matter.”The affidavit was filed in a petition moved by Narinder Chadha, owner of a Khar restaurant, Kosmic at Evergreen, challenging the BMC’s move threatening to cancel the restaurant’s license if it did not stop serving hookah. The petition pointed out that the law permits a restaurant with a seating capacity of more than 30 people to have a smoking section and that the BMC lacked jurisdiction to ban hookahs. Mocha in Churchgate has filed a petition challenging BMC’s action.However, granting a breather to hookah parlours, the BMC on Tuesday told the HC that it would issue a show-cause notice to restaurants before taking any action to stop the sale of hookahs. BMC counsel Anil Sakhare said if the sale of hookahs was to be stopped, the civic body would pass a reasoned order. In case the order went against the restaurants, it would not be acted upon for seven days thereby allowing time for appeal.Sakhare said though the Cigarettes and Other Tobacco Products Act permitted smoking of hookah, the BMC could initiate action if hookahs posed a health hazard. According to the BMC affidavit, hookahs can cause tuberculosis and pneumonia since mouth pieces are shared by multiple persons. “Hookah sessions are more threatening to a person’s health than smoking cigarettes.“Each hookah session lasts from 20 to 80 minutes and consists of 50 to 200 puffs. This exposes the hookah smoker to considerably more smoke over a longer period as compared to a cigarette. While the water absorbs some of the nicotine in the tobacco smoke, the smoker can be exposed to enough nicotine to cause addiction”, the affidavit read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Boss Posted August 6, 2008 Share Posted August 6, 2008 QUOTE (Canon @ Aug 6 2008, 01:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>propaganda at its best. +1,000,000,000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimplexCoda Posted August 6, 2008 Share Posted August 6, 2008 1. i didnt want to click i thought was gonna waste my time2. really? they suck at research Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codename067 Posted August 6, 2008 Share Posted August 6, 2008 I ever see one of these dumb-fuck people behind this shit, they are dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fineout Posted August 6, 2008 Share Posted August 6, 2008 if they say it was such a good study, where are the actual facts, rather than just relating it to other things? thats a trick people use when they dont have any info but want to try an make a point. no numbers or solid facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srawas89 Posted August 6, 2008 Share Posted August 6, 2008 QUOTE (fineout @ Aug 6 2008, 08:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>if they say it was such a good study, where are the actual facts, rather than just relating it to other things? thats a trick people use when they dont have any info but want to try an make a point. no numbers or solid facts.you are so right. If you ask me whoever is pushing to ban the hookah in this manner is probably racist. I mean come on the spread of TB or Pnemounia? If someone had that shit people would notice before they smoked. ANd besides it says in the article that there are noxious chemicals and shit that could cause death tho they say the danger is getting TB or Pnemounia from using multiple mouth pieces....there is no solid proof. The man behind it I believe is racist and I really wanna see this study they are basing thier push to ban the hookah so I can actaully read it realize they are using it improperly and then shove it up the guys' ass and through is mouth....all though he probably knows the taste of shit in his mouth from all the bullshit he speaks of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vin13 Posted August 6, 2008 Share Posted August 6, 2008 QUOTE (fineout @ Aug 6 2008, 06:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>if they say it was such a good study, where are the actual facts, rather than just relating it to other things? thats a trick people use when they dont have any info but want to try an make a point. no numbers or solid facts.Exactly. Not one bit of factual evidence for anything said in that article. Where does this trash come from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBatcho07 Posted August 6, 2008 Share Posted August 6, 2008 “Each hookah session lasts from 20 to 80 minutes and consists of 50 to 200 puffs. This exposes the hookah smoker to considerably more smoke over a longer period as compared to a cigarette. While the water absorbs some of the nicotine in the tobacco smoke, the smoker can be exposed to enough nicotine to cause addiction”I think a pee'd a little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryno Posted August 6, 2008 Share Posted August 6, 2008 QUOTE (Codename067 @ Aug 6 2008, 06:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I ever see one of these dumb-fuck people behind this shit, they are dead.I'm not one for violence, but I hear you on that.... Show us so damn facts and get your shit straight! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBatcho07 Posted August 6, 2008 Share Posted August 6, 2008 QUOTE (ryno @ Aug 6 2008, 07:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (Codename067 @ Aug 6 2008, 06:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I ever see one of these dumb-fuck people behind this shit, they are dead.I'm not one for violence, but I hear you on that.... Show us so damn facts and get your shit straight!Ryno,Code,others....This shit it getting old really quick,why the fu** can't we enjoy freedom without dumb ass reporters/researchers getting in the way?I mean honestly,these fu** boys and girls seem to ONLY COLLECT DATA TO USE AGAINST THINGS THAT PEOPLE ENJOY!..Things that ARE NOT ILLEGAL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny_D Posted August 6, 2008 Share Posted August 6, 2008 Was I the only one who thought "Another Canon attempt at the Rick Roll" ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMoodz Posted August 6, 2008 Share Posted August 6, 2008 This research is annoying at best. Hookah smokers are 18 years and older, so we're adults. We're not kids; we know the risks. Lastly, the addictive piece of it is exploring everything and all things hookah. All the different makes and styles of the pipe, all the different brands and flavors of shisha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMoodz Posted August 6, 2008 Share Posted August 6, 2008 QUOTE (Johnny_D @ Aug 6 2008, 02:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Was I the only one who thought "Another Canon attempt at the Rick Roll" ?Hehe, I definitely caught that shite. He quoted MSN news but the link read youtube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indian_villager Posted August 6, 2008 Share Posted August 6, 2008 I just wish there would be a fully legitimate study done. Where the set up is controlled by experienced hookah smokers. I read reports once from a study where the shisha was incinerated and the researchers gathered their info from that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thugacation Posted August 6, 2008 Share Posted August 6, 2008 people hookahs can cause death, its no jokeif you picked up your hookah and hit someone with it, it would cause some serious damage, possibly even death Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
web250_is_mad Posted August 6, 2008 Share Posted August 6, 2008 So stupid. It really isn't that hard to perform well-researched, double blind, fully controlled experiments...but no one testing hookah seems to want to bother.Propaganda for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBatcho07 Posted August 6, 2008 Share Posted August 6, 2008 QUOTE (thugacation @ Aug 6 2008, 10:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>people hookahs can cause death, its no jokeif you picked up your hookah and hit someone with it, it would cause some serious damage, possibly even deathI was SO waiting for someone to reply with something like this...kudos! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoopy1966 Posted August 6, 2008 Share Posted August 6, 2008 QUOTE (Johnny_D @ Aug 6 2008, 09:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Was I the only one who thought "Another Canon attempt at the Rick Roll" ?Nope JD I thought the same thing. I did not want to click ANY of Canons links!! And I still did not, I just read what he posted. He is probably on his way to Japan now, and I thought it was another parting gift for us all at HF. The article that he copied and pasted has no facts behind it, just trying to scare people. Propaganda at its finest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TizaNabi Posted August 6, 2008 Share Posted August 6, 2008 Yesterday I went online to search for Jurak shisha. Iran has but not listed. India makes most of it. I saw that online search had around 10 sites for buying Jurak wholesale, but there were around 40 sites of anti-jurak shisha smoking from India.So what that smoking hookah is dangerous? How often have I seen long distance runners running quickly along the side of major highways breathing in for hours at fast rates inhaling fumes of the many cars driving by.Look at the weather today in Beijing China. The Olympic sportspeople are walking around with scarves because the air is full of thick pollution that darkens the sky. I love to smoke. Dangerous? To some extent, but so are cellphones which I never, ever used, breathing the air of big cities, I live ina village and we have clean air. Each person has her/his own options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefin Posted August 6, 2008 Share Posted August 6, 2008 I think it's ironic that a country that has most tourists sporting "Delhi Belly" on the can for a week after consuming the local fare, is concerned about the health risks of an isolated population of people enjoying a 1000+ year old tradition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoopy1966 Posted August 6, 2008 Share Posted August 6, 2008 It is just like a dog running after a car. Does he like the smell of the exhaust or the thrill of maybe getting his head run over by the rear wheel?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speel Posted August 6, 2008 Share Posted August 6, 2008 "..hookahs can cause tuberculosis and pneumonia since mouth pieces are shared by multiple persons"That right there takes the cake for this whole article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giant Ninja Robot Posted August 6, 2008 Share Posted August 6, 2008 Oh yeah I share mouthpieces all the time. And I also reuse condoms I find on the street. Oh yeah and by the way, if you point a loaded gun at your head and pull the trigger you'll probably die. Holy poop on a stick this is ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wpw36 Posted August 6, 2008 Share Posted August 6, 2008 it's people like this and then those damn beauracrats that think since it's bad it is infringing on our freedom well when are they gonna stop infringing on ours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktiz Posted August 6, 2008 Share Posted August 6, 2008 For real, how about some facts about this "deadly concoction"?Bitches act like they be knowin whats up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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