HookahHUN Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 Hi guys!I guess you have a good suggestion for me...Here in Hungary shisha is quite expensive(like 5-6 bucks for a 50 gramm pack), there are only a few cheap places, but they sell 250 gramm packs only. The problem is that it will dry quickly, so I have to throw away a lot all the time. WHAT A WASTE! Any sugegstions? I already tried to put it in an air tight jar, but that didn't help a lot.I evern tried to keep it in the fridge, but that did't help either...Thanks,Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 I've heard of two options: adding honey or glycerin. Never had to use one though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HookahDuck Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 in an air tight container, ma'assel should last 2-3 years easilly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonthert Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 What brand would you be using that could be drying out? I've had samples that have been fine for 4-5 years! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pojzon Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 [quote name='HookahHUN']Hi guys!I guess you have a good suggestion for me...Here in Hungary shisha is quite expensive(like 5-6 bucks for a 50 gramm pack), there are only a few cheap places, but they sell 250 gramm packs only. The problem is that it will dry quickly, so I have to throw away a lot all the time. WHAT A WASTE! Any sugegstions? I already tried to put it in an air tight jar, but that didn't help a lot.I evern tried to keep it in the fridge, but that did't help either...Thanks,Mark[/quote] Szia Márk! Én azt olvastam, hogy ha kicsit kiszárad, akkor használj almaszeletet, de ezt nem egészen értettem. gondolom be kell pakolni a dohányok közé és hagyni egy kicsit hogy átnedvessítse a dohányt. Amit meg korábban említett kollega írt, hogy mézzel vagy glicerinnel kell kicsit feltúrbózni, de a glicerinnel vigyázzál, mert olvastam egy topicban, hogy kémiai jellegû lett az egésznek az íze. Amúgy meg nekem simán bírják a Nakhla dohányaim és én egy zárható mûanyag izében tárolom õket. De lehet hogy elfogy mire kiszáradna... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HookahHUN Posted January 13, 2006 Author Share Posted January 13, 2006 Thank you for your help!It seems I have this problem with Nakhla only. I will try to add some honey, glycerine sounds bad... Some Nakhla flavours(apricot!) has quite a chemical taste anyway,that would make it even worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pojzon Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 [quote name='HookahHUN']Thank you for your help!It seems I have this problem with Nakhla only. I will try to add some honey, glycerine sounds bad... Some Nakhla flavours(apricot!) has quite a chemical taste anyway,that would make it even worse.[/quote] If you try to adding honey try very liquid honey so it won't adhere the tobacco. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HookahHUN Posted January 13, 2006 Author Share Posted January 13, 2006 [quote name='pojzon'][quote name='HookahHUN'] Thank you for your help!It seems I have this problem with Nakhla only. I will try to add some honey, glycerine sounds bad... Some Nakhla flavours(apricot!) has quite a chemical taste anyway,that would make it even worse.[/quote] If you try to adding honey try very liquid honey so it won't adhere the tobacco. [/quote] Pojzon! Köszi, küldtem egy PM-et, hátha ebben is tudnál segíteni! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiMMey Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 lol don't add any honey to your ma'assel You must add Glycerin to keep it wet, otherwise it will stop smoking and will taste like sh*t Many people don't know that ma'assel is wet because of the glycerine & molasses that make it actually smoke!! Without glycerine your ma'assel wouldn't smoke at all ;-)The honey thing is just a tip for a better taste using aditional glycerine! You can mix some Glycerine with honey to make it taste better - about one or two teaspons of honey for 100ml of glycerine should be good.But now to the glycerine thing:Hungary is a member of the EU, so I guess that you also the 5% restriction, that restricts ma'assel to about 5% of glycerine & molasses, which results in a very dry, nearly unsmokeable tobacco.So you can either buy "illegal" imported, dry tobacco, or you mix the 5%-tobacco with glycerine, which sounds bad, but it actually isn't so bad, because glycerine is a basic ingredient of ma'assel!So I suggest you buy some glycerine (about 100ml, it's cheap) at an apothecary , mix it with 2 teaspoons of honey, and put about 1 teaspoon of this mix on 50g of ma'assel. After that, you should put the tobacco into an air tight container, e.g. an old jam-glass or something similiar for at least 6 hours before smokinggreetsTim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pojzon Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 [/QUOTE] Pojzon! Köszi, küldtem egy PM-et, hátha ebben is tudnál segíteni! [/QUOTE] Írtam választ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pojzon Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 [quote name='tiMMey']lol don't add any honey to your ma'assel You must add Glycerin to keep it wet, otherwise it will stop smoking and will taste like sh*t Many people don't know that ma'assel is wet because of the glycerine & molasses that make it actually smoke!! Without glycerine your ma'assel wouldn't smoke at all ;-)The honey thing is just a tip for a better taste using aditional glycerine! You can mix some Glycerine with honey to make it taste better - about one or two teaspons of honey for 100ml of glycerine should be good.But now to the glycerine thing:Hungary is a member of the EU, so I guess that you also the 5% restriction, that restricts ma'assel to about 5% of glycerine & molasses, which results in a very dry, nearly unsmokeable tobacco.So you can either buy "illegal" imported, dry tobacco, or you mix the 5%-tobacco with glycerine, which sounds bad, but it actually isn't so bad, because glycerine is a basic ingredient of ma'assel!So I suggest you buy some glycerine (about 100ml, it's cheap) at an apothecary , mix it with 2 teaspoons of honey, and put about 1 teaspoon of this mix on 50g of ma'assel. After that, you should put the tobacco into an air tight container, e.g. an old jam-glass or something similiar for at least 6 hours before smokinggreetsTim[/quote] This is interesting because I have no problem with the Nakhla tobacco. It is smoke very well and didn't dry out. Just sometimes I get cough but not so offen. I usually buy 250g dose and I keep them In a air lock jar. Anyway how can I realised that my tobacco dried out? What is the minimum limit waht is not dry yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiMMey Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 Well, then I suppose you don't have the "5%-nakhla" but the dry stuff To your other question:I would say if it is less wet than a fresh-bought Nakhla it's already a bit too dry, (but it's still smokeable) because Nakhla is one of the driest ma'assels out there...Tangiers, Al Fakher etc. are much more wet than Nakhla!P.S: You could look for "Honey Mix" in your favourite hookah-store or the internet, that's a great honey-molasses-glycerine mix you can put directly on the tobacco right before smoking if it's a bit too dry ;-)greetsTim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HookahHUN Posted January 13, 2006 Author Share Posted January 13, 2006 Probably we have that 5% restriction too, I didn't know it, but fortunately the authorities have no idea about that either, so I can get/order anything. I guess they just don't care...They probably don't even know what's a hookah or shisha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pojzon Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 [quote name='tiMMey']Well, then I suppose you don't have the "5%-nakhla" but the dry stuff To your other question:I would say if it is less wet than a fresh-bought Nakhla it's already a bit too dry, (but it's still smokeable) because Nakhla is one of the driest ma'assels out there...Tangiers, Al Fakher etc. are much more wet than Nakhla!P.S: You could look for "Honey Mix" in your favourite hookah-store or the internet, that's a great honey-molasses-glycerine mix you can put directly on the tobacco right before smoking if it's a bit too dry ;-)greetsTim[/quote] So if I put this molales mix in directly the bowl I will get a tastier and bigger smoke? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiMMey Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 Yeah that's right!Well, I haven't really experienced a better taste, but it definitely smokes better!greetsTom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiMMey Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 That's what I'm talking about... guess there are similiar products out there...[img]http://www.shisha-laden.de/catalog/images/melasse.jpg[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pojzon Posted January 14, 2006 Share Posted January 14, 2006 [quote name='tiMMey']That's what I'm talking about... guess there are similiar products out there...[img]http://www.shisha-laden.de/catalog/images/melasse.jpg[/img][/quote] Yes I saw this product before but until now I got no idea what is that. Maybe I will try this once. And thank for infos! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[LB] Posted January 14, 2006 Share Posted January 14, 2006 ooo i couldnt follow anything that was going on cause of the different languages, but i do understand this little magic honey product! looks interesting! timmey, have you actually tried it on your maassell? cause then id have to get a bottle like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[LB] Posted January 14, 2006 Share Posted January 14, 2006 nevermind the slogan on the webiste it The Wetting Agent for Shisha (Hookah) Tobacco! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR Bubble Posted January 14, 2006 Share Posted January 14, 2006 I just typed in the website([url="http://www.honey-mix.com"]www.honey-mix.com[/url]) and it appears to be a German-only product. They say an English langage page is "coming soon." Unfortunately, my German is no longer proficient. I guess if I look long enough I could decipher it. Maybe I'll pass that link over to some of our hookah shops here in the U.S. and see what they do with the info. MR Bubble Hey TiMMey, where are you from in Germany? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiMMey Posted January 14, 2006 Share Posted January 14, 2006 Yeah I put it on every Nakhla I smoke and it rocks! I usually use it to make my "fresh" Nakhla smoke better, but you can also use ot to refresh your dry tobacco, I've tested both and it works great.greetsTim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiMMey Posted January 14, 2006 Share Posted January 14, 2006 By the way: Which website do you mean? www.shisha-laden.de? That's christoff's store Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR Bubble Posted January 15, 2006 Share Posted January 15, 2006 [quote name='tiMMey']By the way: Which website do you mean? www.shisha-laden.de? That's christoff's store[/quote] [url="http://www.honey-mix.com"]www.honey-mix.com[/url] It was on the picture of the bottle. Once again, where in Germany are you living? MR Bubble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiMMey Posted January 15, 2006 Share Posted January 15, 2006 Sorry didn't recognize your question... I'm living in Bielefeld, that's between Hannover and Düsseldorf, about 100km north of Dortmund in Northrhein-Westfalia. greets Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR Bubble Posted January 15, 2006 Share Posted January 15, 2006 Ah, a Northerner. I met a fellow from Hannover a couple weeks ago. A foriegn exchange student staying in Arkansas. Needless to say that he was getting home-sick! See you later tiMMy. MR Bubble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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