[LB] Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 [img]http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y126/SillySnare/charcoalarrangementgif.gif[/img] i think the diagram speaks for itself, im glad to hear criticism, also if anyone wants to try this out themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeans Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 NICE MSPaint skills. Very very nice. Hmm, I will try that. When you say arrange the tobacco accordingly to the spots of heat, do you mean that it should be more concentrated (so to speak) underneath the poked spots in the foil? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yashman19 Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 Well its great to come up with new techniques, and whatever works best for you, but what about the ma'assel underneith the foil with no holes? Seems like you will only be getting good smoke from the areas underneith the holes, then the rest will be wasted. Guess you gotta try this bowl out a few times, monitor what your cake looks like underneith the foil after your session, and see how evenly it burned. And if it works, then hell yes, guess I'll have to try it. Actually just going over your diagram again, are you saying that you only put tobacco underneith the area with holes? Hmm...Very interesting idea indeed. Let us know for sure how it does for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Abide Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 man if you only had those three spots and 3 little pieces of coal hoooooah! as long as it doesnt get harsh it might be amazingly thick. I may grab the ole clay bowl and some nours and give this a try later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmexx Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 Haha, cool.Does it actually work? or has it worked for you?Jon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonthert Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 The main mechanism, as my theories go, and the research I've done, is that maasel "smokes" from the bowl being hot, not having the charcoal on top. The pattern of your holes will increase the oxygen in a given area and create more ash collection/scorching, but not necessarily do anything to how the bowl smokes. I've developed a new device/attachment that completely tilts the concepts upside down and proves my point, but I want to apply for my patent first, then I'll share it with you all. Try this: Pack a bowl, normally, put foil over the top of it, normally, and poke holes in a "normal" fashion, but only on the left or right half of the bowl, smoke it and see what the cooking looks like then. Remember, ash falling through the holes will make the tobacco looks slightly blacker than it really is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunsboy Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 Make sure coal is fully lit ... very important as most of you know .. I keep taking the coal off the top of the bowl and blowing air into the bowl from the buttom to get rid of the most bulk of ashes that fell in. I find this helps keep the bowl smoother for a longer time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAP Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 [quote name='Tangiers']The main mechanism, as my theories go, and the research I've done, is that maasel "smokes" from the bowl being hot, not having the charcoal on top. The pattern of your holes will increase the oxygen in a given area and create more ash collection/scorching, but not necessarily do anything to how the bowl smokes. I've developed a new device/attachment that completely tilts the concepts upside down and proves my point, but I want to apply for my patent first, then I'll share it with you all. Try this: Pack a bowl, normally, put foil over the top of it, normally, and poke holes in a "normal" fashion, but only on the left or right half of the bowl, smoke it and see what the cooking looks like then. Remember, ash falling through the holes will make the tobacco looks slightly blacker than it really is.[/quote]So you're saying poke holes in one half and smoke it like that? Are we supposed to put charcoal all over the bowl or just over the holes? I assume doing this will give a better smoke?And I can't wait for whatever it is you've invented. Is it going to be an electral thing or just some sort of a fancy bowl? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buford Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 I usually only poke 16 well-spaced holes with a pin in a pattern that resembles a hash / pound sign / tic-tac-toe shape. It tends to work reasonably well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[LB] Posted January 21, 2006 Author Share Posted January 21, 2006 yeah you pack the bowl like a valley if you wanna burn your tbac quick, with alot of openness in the middle, and if you wan to roast it slowly or if youve been having heat problems you push it in the middle like a hill. The fat that the tobacco is in the center of teh three coal hotspots- even without touching it- will bring it to a temperature high enough to burn, but itll burn alot slower. So far the technique has worked really well for me, ive smoke both tangiers and al fakher (not at the same time!) using this foil poking technique and i really enjoy it. plus if your by yourself, if you wanna just pause your session, putting the charcs in the middle keeps the bowl hot, but stops the burning (assuming your tbac is off to the sides. when i first did this method, i just packed a regular bowl, so that would work too!sorry this is such a long response! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonthert Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 [quote name='ZAP'][quote name='Tangiers']The main mechanism, as my theories go, and the research I've done, is that maasel "smokes" from the bowl being hot, not having the charcoal on top. The pattern of your holes will increase the oxygen in a given area and create more ash collection/scorching, but not necessarily do anything to how the bowl smokes. I've developed a new device/attachment that completely tilts the concepts upside down and proves my point, but I want to apply for my patent first, then I'll share it with you all. Try this: Pack a bowl, normally, put foil over the top of it, normally, and poke holes in a "normal" fashion, but only on the left or right half of the bowl, smoke it and see what the cooking looks like then. Remember, ash falling through the holes will make the tobacco looks slightly blacker than it really is.[/quote]Its something like the world has never seen before. It will take over the world...and its mine...mine!! All mine![you're sounding unstable again][What? I fell fine][where's your pills?] [I flushed them, the doctor's in on it too][You need your pills][ sound of an electric knife running][screaming]So you're saying poke holes in one half and smoke it like that? Are we supposed to put charcoal all over the bowl or just over the holes? I assume doing this will give a better smoke?And I can't wait for whatever it is you've invented. Is it going to be an electral thing or just some sort of a fancy bowl? [/quote]Yes, one half of the foil (left or right) has holes in it.What is it...Hmmm. Its not electric, thats just too strange. Its not a head, it is ceramic...its more akin to those things you put between the hose ports and the hoses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimpy Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 Try this technique...1. Put your shisha in the bowl.2. Cover with foil.3. Add a coal or two or three.4. SMOKE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonthert Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 [quote name='pimpy']Try this technique...1. Put your shisha in the bowl.2. Cover with foil.3. Add a coal or two or three.4. SMOKE.[/quote]Really? I've been doing it WRONG all these years? Jeez! I've always poked holes in the foil...thanks man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimpy Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 [quote name='Tangiers'][quote name='pimpy']Try this technique...1. Put your shisha in the bowl.2. Cover with foil.3. Add a coal or two or three.4. SMOKE.[/quote]Really? I've been doing it WRONG all these years? Jeez! I've always poked holes in the foil...thanks man. [/quote]Surprisingly... unneccesary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmexx Posted January 22, 2006 Share Posted January 22, 2006 HAJon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pavlakos_politakos Posted January 22, 2006 Share Posted January 22, 2006 funny funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[LB] Posted January 23, 2006 Author Share Posted January 23, 2006 i did it again with a bowl packed to the brim and 1.5 coals and ive never pulled so much thick fluffy unharsh smoke out of my QT mya before. Has anyone tried it yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mo Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 hello hookah people, Just a word on this, I really believe it is much ado about nothing. The holes allow for smooth airflow and as long as the tobacco is sprinkled in then there is no problem. King Mo's technique is simple. The key is to use something very fine to make the holes with. Ideally a pin (the type that women use in their clothes). Perhaps the same thickness as the pin part of the 'safety pin' I start in the middle and spiral my way around the hole thing, so that it's covered in tiny holes. The result is perfect and I get a great smoke which is the primary objective. don't kill it with the coal and you're sorted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimpy Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 Is that true?Smaller holes are better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mo Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 as long as you cover the foil in the aforementioned holes, then yes, that is what i find better. much less likely to have crap contaminating your tobacco as well or some over burning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimpy Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 Skeet skeet!I'll have to try that!I usually use the piece connected to the pinchers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mo Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 at the end of the day it all works, but i have tried many things indeed over the years, and am more than happy with this simple approach. Keep it neat. some of the thicker things tend to get messy and rip funky holes in the foil, especially the thinner types of foil. quick pricks with a longish pin all over the foil will do the job guaranteed. just make sure it's evenly spaced not five million holes in the thing. say 15 holes and more if the draw is a little tight. the best think i had to make holes was a little pin that came in a device called a swiss army card. The pin is in the top left of this picture [url="http://im.edirectory.co.uk/products/1095/i/edswissc1.jpg"]http://im.edirectory.co.uk/products/1095/i...i/edswissc1.jpg[/url] to give u an idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mo Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 the best 'think', should be the best 'thing' in the above text. dunno how i managed to spell it like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzzzzT Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 My method is to put one big hole in the middle with a knife. Then I put two holes next to each other on all four sides on the edge of the bowl. The coals are kept on four sides but not where the two holes were punched, this configuration looks like an x. At no time is the coal over any punched holes. This method works the best for me. I always keep two coals on and add another once the two get smaller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimpy Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 I think the best experience I've had, as far as the coals go, is a single one of the large 3 kings - putting another on top when it gets low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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