Lack Of Smoke From Tangiers.

[Snacks]

Hi, good day and waves to all.

I started smoking some time ago and the natural effect of surfing on this forum and smoking seriously is to get a funnel bowl and start smoking tangiers.
So I did place an order from MNH for some tangiers, a funnel bowl, some misc items, I also ordered the scali's funnel mod, for the lols. Anyhow, to set this up I read some guides and followed them as well as I could, first tries did not go very well, however I improved and at this stage, things are quite fine, I get a lot of taste and a buzz that leaves me very tired(?) and slow. However, the I do not get a lot of smoke from it. I use crappy chinese made jap ripoffs wich I also bought from MNH, they dont burn long but they dont smell nor taste so I doubt they're the problem. I mainly used this guide, I also got some insight from random guides too. I havent tried to smoke the bowl for longer ammounts of time, max at 40 minutes. I get the tingling in the back of my throat after about three to five seconds into the draw wich I presume is normal and the way of tangiers and I get clouds of smoke, they arent silly and especially wispy however I wish for more and from the youtube clips I've seen, I can get more. Do you know what might be wrong? I am not using ice in the base but I will however try that soon, doubt that will improve it very much though.

I will try to post some pictures of my packing soon enough. In a day or two.

Goodbye and thanks in advance for all answers!

So I got a pic of my hole pattern, this is after smoking but I very much doubt it makes much of a difference. I'll take a couple of pics of the packing tomorrow when I try smoking again. (I do not push all the way through the tobacco down to the bottom of the bowl, my thingie gets too thick if I push futher throught then I already did.)



:edit: I just watched this review and if you forget the actual review, the ammount of smoke he gets on the last drag (just skip until the last few 30 seconds), that's about how much smoke I get, generally a wee bit more I'd say, it's hard to say. Makes me think it's just me whining but whatever. Hope it helps to get a better feel of my problem. Edited September 15, 2008 by Snacks

[km3p4rc]

dont forget to post a pic of your holes pattern, and I'd suggest that you get either some exoticas or coconaras coals. do you use a windcover? It's pretty useful for heat managment imo, it helps give more smoke without burning the tobacco. hope it helps. Edited September 15, 2008 by km3p4rc

[Snacks]

dont forget to post a pic of your holes pattern, and I'd suggest that you get either some exoticas or coconaras coals. do you use a windcover? It's pretty useful for heat managment imo, it helps give more smoke without burning the tobacco. hope it helps.

My wind cover seems to be too small, or rather so, the funnel bowl is too high. Good idea though, I'll try to modify it to fit my purposes.

[ryno]

From the foil, it looks like you need to pack a little bit more in there since you can see the middle part on the foil. Tangiers is bass ackwards from any shisha I've ever had... have to pack alot, and it takes a little bit of heat, and if there a tingle, I usually add a tad more heat... grr the fun of smoking Tangiers. Just keep messing around with the heat and the packing method and you should get one that works... it took me a few bowls to get it going right.

[Snacks]

From the foil, it looks like you need to pack a little bit more in there since you can see the middle part on the foil. Tangiers is bass ackwards from any shisha I've ever had... have to pack alot, and it takes a little bit of heat, and if there a tingle, I usually add a tad more heat... grr the fun of smoking Tangiers. Just keep messing around with the heat and the packing method and you should get one that works... it took me a few bowls to get it going right.

Oh but the hole outline in the middle is from following the guide I linked, check it out. http://www.hookahforum.com/?showtopic=17067#entry195628

[EternalSoil]

Put more tobacco in!

alot more.

Tingle goes bye bye.

Try 2 of those squares, if that doesnt work do 3 or break one in half and use 2.5

hole setup is great, you might have less in middle though, that can cause thin smoke.

This would be the way I do it. It doesnt mean it will work for everyone.

[Snacks]

Put more tobacco in!

alot more.

Tingle goes bye bye.

Try 2 of those squares, if that doesnt work do 3 or break one in half and use 2.5

hole setup is great, you might have less in middle though, that can cause thin smoke.

This would be the way I do it. It doesnt mean it will work for everyone.

Thanks, that's good and constructive!
The coals I use, the japs, come in bars wich break into four squares, all wich I presume you know. I use three squares, do you suggest I use less? I did not exactly understand.

Thanks for the replies! Cheers

[mattarios2]

Looks like you have everything right accept what eternal soil has already said, pack more tobacco and the tingle will go away and you will get big big clouds!

[Click]

Honestly, just try packing more. I was having the same problem as you and thought that packing it EVEN more would be crazy, but you'll be amazed how different this tobacco is.

When you put the foil on press down to check how packed it is. It shouldn't compress any more than an 1/8 inch from the edge of the bowl. If it does remove the foil and add more. Edited September 15, 2008 by click

[mattathayde]

how long you acclimate for?
-matt

[Snacks]

how long you acclimate for?
-matt

About 24 hours, stirring about once per hour or two, exept for the night in wich I slept.

[ahwahoo2006]

Make sure you only put one hole over the phunnel hole, otherwise you are just inhaling air.

[EternalSoil]

one of the best smokes i remember i had to make a little wall around the bowl because there was a fucking mound of tobacco there. Adding more tobacco can only make it better i think. Once you get it you can play with it a little to get just the right amount.

And to clarify on the coals. You can probably use 3. I would light 3 (all red hot and no silver paint of course) and see how that goes. If it's too hot take one off. It takes more time to get heat management down with Tangiers and it will change throughout the year because of temp/humidity change (does for me anyways).

Good luck!

[blckngld760]

try poking less holes in the center...i heard that helps

[liquidglass]

Personally I poke NO holes in the middle, I used to, but I found that I can use tangiers easily (heat, flavor, and smoke wise) 3 rings, of holes and then a few in between if you like but never over the middle hole. Try that.

[GreatPigHookah]

Here's yet another description/way, if you run out of luck. Place the tobacco in the bowl until it is 1/4" above the rim all the way around. Just grab some with your fingers and set it in there and fill it up until its 1/4" above the rim. It will look like you are being silly, using a riduculous amount of shisha. That's how it should look. Place the foil on top of the pile and press the shisha down with your thumbs until it is almost 1/8" below the outside rim, all the way around. Just work your way around the bowl until it is level at about 1/8" below the outter rim. Lift the foil off and replace it so that it is tight over the bowl just like you would any other bowl you have packed. This will give you a little air gap between the shisha and the foil. Poke about 2/3 the number of holes you have in your pic in the foil, and poke all the way down to the bottom of the bowl, throught the shisha, but put at most one small hole in the center part. Your hole pattern may be ok, not sure as I usually use a few less but maybe a tad larger than what you have...yours may work out to the same thing. Place coals, smoke like a champ. I have had superb sessions doing it this way, but of course, everyone interprits and executes things differently, so good luck!