mattarios2 Posted September 21, 2008 Share Posted September 21, 2008 QUOTE (bjelder @ Sep 20 2008, 03:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Haha, my significant other and I smoke hookah together all the time :-D2nd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giant Ninja Robot Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 Like I said, enjoy the sex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tati Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 I agree with Eternal...If she knew that you already smoked, and just now decided to bring it up to you, there must be something else thats up. You guys should probably talk...Its sounding like shes jealous of your hookah? The feeling you get from sex and from hookah are two different things.But hey its up to you to figure out whats more important to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dom Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 (edited) QUOTE (agentscot @ Sep 20 2008, 08:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Oh yeah, one thing I forgot to mention: As we were talking about it, one of the reasons I listed as why I smoke is that it makes me feel good and feel happy. She responded with, "but I wan't to be the thing that makes you feel good and feel happy."first things first:this kind of talk is VERY manipulative. that is completely unreasonable. she is very needy. she's not in it for the sex like you are. she's in it for the long haul. does she know that you are not intending for your relationship to be possibly long term? be careful and don't break her heart. the things she is saying make her sound like she wants something serious - something possibly permenant.next:correct me if i'm wrong...hookah=time with the guystime with the guys = not alone time with yousee where i'm going with this? be very careful. bros before hoe's? or is there no danger of loosing your friends? she doesn't like smoking and when you are with your friends, you smoke hookah, then pretty soon you won't have your friends..... but you'll have a hot girl that your other 14 friends don't have. so.... ...or...(my wife told me this. **woman's perspective**) she might be trying to think of an excuse for you to break up with her. that way she doesn't have to do it. maybe you could just ask her straight up what is really getting to her.but from what you've told me, i think she's being manipulative and is trying to make this a long, long term relationship where she tries to keep you all to herself and is afraid that anything and everything might get in her way. here's my experience with my wife, me, and my hookahs:we started out smoking the hookah together. it was actually her idea. it was great. we bought all kinds of stuff and had a blast smoking together. then she got sick of the smell of the smoke. it started to come between us, actually. the hookah was associated with something that distanced us. so we compromised out of respect for each other. i shared with here my feelings (yes, guys have feelings, too) that i could not stop smoking the hookah; that is a very important hobby and it makes me happy. we agreed to a schedule so that we each got an equal number of days of satisfaction. it's all about respect. it doesn't appear that she respects you for her to say something like that up there ^^^but then again, maybe respect isn't something you need in a relationship revolving around sex only. if that's what you want then that's what you've got. ask yourself what she really wants from you. Edited September 22, 2008 by Dom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidglass Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 QUOTE (agentscot @ Sep 20 2008, 06:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>on a level of importance, hookah ranks far below sex. Its that simple. Yeah I'd love to find a girl that allows for both, however, it is slim pickings where I go to school (NC State). guys out number girls here about 3:1. And guys outnumber attractive girls here about 15:1. I was lucky enough to land me a hot girl, and I am not going to give that up anytime soon, even for hookah.Dude you go to State? I go to Campbell right down the road, that's awesome, you're welcome to come smoke here with me sometime.I met my current girlfriend when her room mate brought her over to smoke hookah with us so I know she's cool with it. SLIM PICKINGS MY ASS, Campbell is a private university with 3,000-5,000 people, given the ratio girls:guys is about 2:1, but even so you can find a girl where ever you want, I have a feeling she's got you thinking you can't. I've picked up girls from State and I don't even go there, so I'm sure you can find plenty more, just gotta be confident about it. Think about your ratio you stated guys:girls 3:1, if that's the case then she's got plenty to pick from so I personally think this is a test to see how much you'll change for her. I've had a girlfriend or two I changed for because they didn't like things and like other people said I was extremely unhappy with the relationship, it starts off small but it gets bigger.If she's always had a problem with it she should have said something much much much sooner than 6 months into it, leads me to believe she is seeing what she can get away with and what you'll agree to until she has you under her thumb. You were smoking hookah before you met her and there's no reason to change that. If she had approached you saying she didn't like it because she felt it was unhealthy (long before now) then I'd understand, but locking you out 6 months into a relationship, there's something fucked up about that. Going along with the "test" thing, I have a feeling she's beginning to see it as a long term relationship and so she's forming you into the guy she wants rather than accepting you for who you are. That shit needs to stop right here and now. You can get sex from plenty of other girls, and if that's the biggest reason you're with her, then it'd be better off as fuck buddies than a relationship.Just my 2 cents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaia.plateau Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 (edited) QUOTE (agentscot @ Sep 20 2008, 12:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Call me whipped if you want, but I'd take sex over hookah any day of the week. And I seriously doubt many of you wouldn't make the same choice.Are you that hideous that no one else in the world, indeed someone open to hookah, would even consider having sex with you? Or are you stretching things a bit, and creating walls out of laziness and insecurity where none existed?If my girlfriend ever tried withholding sex from me for any reason, I'd light up a hookah and see if she could last even as long as a single coconara. Never let them make conditions for sex, that's selling your integrity on the cheap, and it's emotionally unhealthy.I'm with Eternal et alli on this one. You can rationalize it, and tell yourself "okay, you're only going to be controlled by this girl for the time being, because it's convenient and you want some pussy", but trust me, I've seen it happen time and time again. A broken man doesn't unbreak. You could get used to it and be whipped for life without even noticing it happening, like gradually stacking up a mountainous heap of burnt shisha one bowl at a time. Is it really worth waking up in a couple of decades, and realizing that you've completely lost any control or direction over your life, and become completely dependent upon bitches to tell you what to do? It only starts with the hookah! Edited September 22, 2008 by gaia.plateau Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrenwizard Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 Lol!! Guys, guess what? I started my relationship with my girl, when she was a having a too uch puff hookah and faint, which I'd helped her and eventually, Hookah to me and her is like the SYMBOL of LOVE. Hahahahahah!! Beautyful isn't it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joytron Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 QUOTE (giant ninja robot @ Sep 20 2008, 07:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Enjoy the sexhaha well put my friend...well put Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uglycustoomer Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 Devo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidglass Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 QUOTE (gaia.plateau @ Sep 22 2008, 04:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>If my girlfriend ever tried withholding sex from me for any reason, I'd light up a hookah and see if she could last even as long as a single coconara. Never let them make conditions for sex, that's selling your integrity on the cheap, and it's emotionally unhealthy.BINGO nail on the head right there.Conditions for sex aka: taking things away from your life for sex is never a positive thing, I'd turn down any actress in a heart beat if she asked me to give up something I loved for her, as an example. I learned that lesson a long time ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaia.plateau Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 I'd do it for Winona Ryder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newjacksm Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 When I started dating my gf she never smoked hookah and I got her to start smoking hookah, she doesnt love it as much as me and she hates almost all the flavors I pack except a few, she is pretty picky. But she would never want me to stop something I love. If I was doing drugs or smoking ciggeretes yeah then she would freak out.How ever, I use to smoke ciggs and I completely stopped because of her, she never knew I did when we first started dating I did it behind her back and I stopped she still doesnt know till this day. if she reads this post im a deeep shit haha... but its ok I stopped. She does how ever think I smoke too much hookah and want me to cut down:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camelflage Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 i say to hell with her... dude, it will be a lot easier to find a girl who doesnt care that you smoke than it will be to try and convince this one to let you smoke. theres a lot of chicks out there, you can find a better one in a week or two if you put some effort into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camelflage Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 hell ive got 3 where you at you can borrow one for a while.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giant Ninja Robot Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 QUOTE (camelflage @ Sep 23 2008, 02:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>i say fuck her... dude, it will be a lot easier to find a girl who doesnt care that you smoke than it will be to try and convince this one to let you smoke. theres a lot of chicks out there, you can find a better one in a week or two if you put some effort into it.He's trying to, that's the point of this thread.Enjoy the sex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camelflage Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 QUOTE (giant ninja robot @ Sep 24 2008, 12:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (camelflage @ Sep 23 2008, 02:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>i say fuck her... dude, it will be a lot easier to find a girl who doesnt care that you smoke than it will be to try and convince this one to let you smoke. theres a lot of chicks out there, you can find a better one in a week or two if you put some effort into it.He's trying to, that's the point of this thread.Enjoy the sex. alright..... fixed.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jezter6 Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 I'm a member of a beer brewing forum, and occasionally we get the same shit over there.Woman doesn't like a man's hobby - so he has to give up everything for her.I'm sorry, but unless that piece of ass shits gold bricks and pees a high quality alcoholic beverage - this is horseshit. If you ever have to give up your life for someone else to make them happy, you are quite pathetic to do so.Sure - Sex > Hookah - if and only if the choice is mutual: IE -- should I have sex, or should I smoke hookah.However, sex is everywhere. And Sex (here and now) < Hookah (a hobby and lifetime of enjoyment).6 months in - she knows you smoked for those 6 months, and NOW she's getting pissy ---- that's some serious horse shit and making yourself stoop to her level is making you less of a man. Grow a set of balls and go fuck one of her friends, who cares how fat the bitch is. It's still better than giving up your hookah for some college chick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColibriDon Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 I agree with the poster above me, Jezter. This chick is crazy. I'm sure you've heard the old saying, "There are plenty of other fish in the ocean." And if you have, live it! So you found one hot chick who's actually willing to fuck you (I say that because apparently you're too ugly to attract ANY other girl, which I doubt) but she just decides over night to make you give up something that you enjoy just so that she can be the only thing in the world that makes you happy?! Give me a break. This is completely ridiculous, man. You've been smoking for a while now and you're far from a regular user and she's still acting pissy? I don't think this relationship is going to go very far. Sorry to say it so bluntly but, dump the bitch and find a new one. Simple as that. I'm sure you can find a chick just as hot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jezter6 Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 QUOTE (ColibriDon @ Sep 24 2008, 11:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Simple as that. I'm sure you can find a chick just as hot.If not, start fucking fat chicks. You really want to piss her off - start fucking one of her ugly fat friends. Ditch her for the fat ugly one and watch her cry - then when she wants you to get back together with her - make her give up something super important to her - like BREATHING. See how long she lasts. On a more serious note - tell her you'll quit hookah if she quits something extremely important to her...see if she's willing to compromise. If she's not willing to give anything up but wants to force YOU to do it - then you know she's just out to control you, and again - unless she shits gold bricks and pisses out sweet Guinness - shove a red hot poker up her ass and send her packing - ass bleeding the whole way. As another parting gift - consider something like "table time" or a good old donkey punch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agentscot Posted September 24, 2008 Author Share Posted September 24, 2008 wow, this thread has gotten ridiculous. It has turned into a lovefest of people who suggest that I dump her for a new girl and that the only reason I haven't done so is that I'm too ugly...Wonderful.Anyway, contrary to the general theme of this discussion, I do actually enjoy being with her, and not just because of the sex (but that is reason enough). Trust me, I know more about this relationship than any of you. I know exactly how long I plan to be in the relationship, I know about how long she wants to be in the relationship, and the two do not match up. All I have been saying is that for the remainder of our time together, I don't mind sacrificing the hookah. And when I get out on the market again, I will be sure to find a girl that likes hookah, or at least doesn't dislike it. And believe me, it won't be hard for me to find another girl. I'm just not the kind of person who would dump someone that I am happy with over an issue as small as hookah. When I do dump her, it will be over a much larger issue, believe me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidglass Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 QUOTE (agentscot @ Sep 24 2008, 01:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>wow, this thread has gotten ridiculous. It has turned into a lovefest of people who suggest that I dump her for a new girl and that the only reason I haven't done so is that I'm too ugly...Wonderful.Anyway, contrary to the general theme of this discussion, I do actually enjoy being with her, and not just because of the sex (but that is reason enough). Trust me, I know more about this relationship than any of you. I know exactly how long I plan to be in the relationship, I know about how long she wants to be in the relationship, and the two do not match up. All I have been saying is that for the remainder of our time together, I don't mind sacrificing the hookah. And when I get out on the market again, I will be sure to find a girl that likes hookah, or at least doesn't dislike it. And believe me, it won't be hard for me to find another girl. I'm just not the kind of person who would dump someone that I am happy with over an issue as small as hookah. When I do dump her, it will be over a much larger issue, believe me.People are saying you're too ugly because of your apparent lack of confidence saying "you're lucky enough to find her" and "lucky this" and "fortunate" that, fuck it. Apparently according to you the "sex is reason enough" and it's never a good reason, thus why everyone is saying you're ugly because you seem desperate for it. So you're planning on a certain time to break up with her and you know when she's planning on breaking up with you? But you're going to give up something important to you to let her control you? Something's fucked up about that, just move your break up forward and get it over with and find another girl you won't have problems with so you can get everything you want. What you don't get apparently because you're being close minded about it is that you think the hookah is a small issue. we're not saying that's the main issue, it's the underlying reasons behind her being bitchy about it, get it through your head, and get rid of her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidglass Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 And think about it, if everyone on here who has no reason to deceive you and we'll gain nothing from you breaking up with her, are telling you it's the best idea, we're probably right. You can say the earth is flat all you want if that's what keeps you from "exploring" but we all KNOW it's round and we're going on cruises Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 so what youre saying is...this girl wants to marry youyoure using her to fuckyou gave up a hobby to be with a girl you plan to dump and are just using for sexmaybe you should talk to her about the different ideas you two have of your relationship and just end it before you end up ruining her life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voski Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 QUOTE (Scoop @ Sep 24 2008, 03:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>so what youre saying is...this girl wants to marry youyoure using her to fuckyou gave up a hobby to be with a girl you plan to dump and are just using for sexmaybe you should talk to her about the different ideas you two have of your relationship and just end it before you end up ruining her lifeWinnar! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dom Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 QUOTE (Scoop @ Sep 24 2008, 06:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>so what youre saying is...this girl wants to marry youyoure using her to fuckyou gave up a hobby to be with a girl you plan to dump and are just using for sexmaybe you should talk to her about the different ideas you two have of your relationship and just end it before you end up ruining her life+1!!!!!1!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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