imonlyapuppet Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 I could never really figure out how to get my release valve to work for my single hose hookah. Every one is talking about ball bearing, but i see nothing, nor do I hear anything jingling around inside. The valve has sort of a screw inside it, and I'm not really sure how it works. I've taken the entire screw out before, and tried to blow into the hose. No smoke comes out the valve. Water shot up into the bowl, that was great. I don't know how to clear the stale smoke out of my hookah, once it starts to hit harsh, it never gets better. Here's some pictures: [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v90/ihatelent/HookahValve001.jpg[/img] [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v90/ihatelent/HookahValve002.jpg[/img] [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v90/ihatelent/HookahValve003.jpg[/img] [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v90/ihatelent/HookahValve004.jpg[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yashman19 Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 Your problem is, that you need a ball bearing... You gotta open the valve all the way, put a ball bearing in, and then screw it back up. The way it works is as follows. When you suck through the hose, the ball bearing will fall into the hole and get stuck, thus not letting any outside air in. But when you want to clear the smoke out by blowing into the hose, the air you are pushing into the hookah will push the ball bearing out unsticking it, and the smoke will exit this way. This is normally used if your hookah gets harsh, and you want to get that smoke out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donkeema Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 great pictures! could of done with a little resizing but the actual ball should be inside...maby the screw is blocking the ball to move around and when you blew inside the water shot up the pipe and went into your bowl...to fix this just forget the extra screw on stuff you dont need it. leave it as it is in picture 3 and just add a pellet inside so block the entrance when you suck and to float up when you blow.if the pellet doesent work simply add bluetack EVERYWHERE so its blocked...and if it ever gets pale then just make a small hole in the bluetack and blow out. then simply smear to get a perfect seal again! EASY PEASY LEMON AND SQUEEZY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yashman19 Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 Guess I should explain it a litte more clearly. The way your hookah is setup now without a ball bearing in there, there is nothing blocking that hole, so outside air is getting into your hookah, not keeping your hookah air-tight. No smoke is getting pulled into your hookah because air is going straight from where that ball bearing is striaght to your hose. But when the ball is blocking the hole, smoke will get pulled through the water and finally up into your hose. I know this sounds weird, but you pretty much need some sort of a ball that will fit into your valve, and block that hole. Some people have sucess sticking a air-soft pellet in that hole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imonlyapuppet Posted January 30, 2006 Author Share Posted January 30, 2006 [quote name='Yashman19']Your problem is, that you need a ball bearing... You gotta open the valve all the way, put a ball bearing in, and then screw it back up. The way it works is as follows. When you suck through the hose, the ball bearing will fall into the hole and get stuck, thus not letting any outside air in. But when you want to clear the smoke out by blowing into the hose, the air you are pushing into the hookah will push the ball bearing out unsticking it, and the smoke will exit this way. This is normally used if your hookah gets harsh, and you want to get that smoke out.[/quote] Well, even without a ball bearing, if i took that screw out and everything and blew into the hose, shouldn't smoke come out anyways? And the ball bearing just sits inside that hole? Where does the screw go? I bought it from Hookah-Shisha.com, they must have forgotten to put a ball bearing in there or something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donkeema Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 he didnt actully mention any problems with smoke yash so maby his problem lies with the SCREW blocking the hole making it air tite ..ALL THE TIME Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukasa Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 Yeah. The above poster is most likely right. Try and see if a ball bearing would fit under the cap. Use your imagination. Then buy some ball bearings. www.thehookah.com has some for not much. Under accessories, as do probably every other hookah retail site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imonlyapuppet Posted January 30, 2006 Author Share Posted January 30, 2006 [quote name='Yashman19']Guess I should explain it a litte more clearly. The way your hookah is setup now without a ball bearing in there, there is nothing blocking that hole, so outside air is getting into your hookah, not keeping your hookah air-tight. No smoke is getting pulled into your hookah because air is going straight from where that ball bearing is striaght to your hose. But when the ball is blocking the hole, smoke will get pulled through the water and finally up into your hose.I know this sounds weird, but you pretty much need some sort of a ball that will fit into your valve, and block that hole. Some people have sucess sticking a air-soft pellet in that hole[/quote] Smoke IS geting pulled into my hookah, smoke just isn't getting out. I sure wish we could edit posts in this forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yashman19 Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 [quote name='Donkeema']he didnt actully mention any problems with smoke yash so maby his problem lies with the SCREW blocking the hole making it air tite ..ALL THE TIME [/quote] But he did say there is no ball bearing that he can see in the valve... So I was just trying to explain to him how a standard hookah valve should be working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donkeema Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 sorry for posting so many times but - if you took out the screw whilst smoking yes you can blow out but then you would have to put the screw back on to get more smoke otherwise your shisha is not air tight! thats why the ball bearing solves this problem...your best soloution is to use a pellet or actual ball bearing. prehaps someone has an extra ball bearing they would like to send IAMONLYAPUPPET ? - try asking around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donkeema Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 oo right...my appologies! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yashman19 Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 [quote name='imonlyapuppet'] Well, even without a ball bearing, if i took that screw out and everything and blew into the hose, shouldn't smoke come out anyways? And the ball bearing just sits inside that hole? Where does the screw go? [/quote] Yeah, if you take everythign out, smoke should be be pushed out. But without a ball bearing, normally, you wouldn't be able to get any smoke to push out. So it does sound like that screw is the thing blocking the hole. On all my single hose egyptian hooakhs, the ball plugs the hole when I pull on the hookah, and when I want to blow the smoke out, the ball falls out of the hole, allowing you to blow the smoke out, then falls back in to plug the hole once you start to pull again. Sorry, I didn't know you were still getting smoke even wtihout a ball bearing. I assumed taht you wernt getting any smoke without one. Guess that screw is plugging the hole. I guess take the screw out and just buy a bearing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imonlyapuppet Posted January 30, 2006 Author Share Posted January 30, 2006 I just found the problem, a ball bearing is in there, but its rusted entirely and cannot move. I'll try cleaning it and see how it works. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sariél Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 I think you need to go one step further with disassembly. Unscrew the faceted tube with the holes and I'll bet you'll find the ball bearing stuck in the tube beneath it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dizzing Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 haha, it took until the last 2 posts for anyone to actually look at those pictures and realize what was going on. excellent work, team and i'm glad everything's worked out now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushrat Posted January 31, 2006 Share Posted January 31, 2006 i have one more suggestion...and this was the problem with my 2 hose... look at the underside of the stem assembly. there should be 2 unobstructed holes next to the pipe leading to the water. One for the hose to draw the smoke and another leading to the valve. On mine, there was some left over metal from the soldering that had blocked one of my hose holes making it almost impossible to draw through. I simply used a nail to clear it away and everything worked fine. The screw assembly is mostly for show if the ball is working properly. When you draw in, the vacuum created pulls the ball against the hole blocking it so no extra air gets in. When you blow into your hose to clear the moke, the ball should be blown up enough to let the smoke out. If that is working properly, the screw is not even needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonthert Posted January 31, 2006 Share Posted January 31, 2006 Yeah, I was gonna say, he disassembled the decorative "starfish", but didn't unscrew the machined chamber that actually contained the ball bearing. Another problem that comes up is that the guy who sinks the "bolt" into the housing that contains the bearing sometimes sinks it too far, so that when the bolt is tightened, it actually goes all the way down until it hits the ball bearing, pinning the ball bearing down, blocking the vent chamber. As I think about it, it may be designed that way, to shut off the valve. Anyways, that happens too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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