Lycanlovesthepipe

[NickReppinThe909]

it is stated very clearly in the rules we use the term NHT not any other names, see you in 5 days

[duckhater]

it is stated very clearly in the rules we use the term NHT not any other names

Bullseye! Nick aims, shoots, direct hit....one noob, that hasn't read the rules, down! Edited September 30, 2008 by duckhater

[ryno]

YES! you used that pic I found hahaha I love it!

[duckhater]

This movie is actually pretty funny...

[NickReppinThe909]

im the real hebrew hammer though lol

[Giant Ninja Robot]

Ironic though that the guy was using the NHT phrase in question to express how much he hates the misconception that hookahs are used for such substances. Just a thought.

[Sariél]

Ironic though that the guy was using the NHT phrase in question to express how much he hates the misconception that hookahs are used for such substances. Just a thought.

+1

[hookah hippie]

way to do the job nick

[Apets22]

Ironic though that the guy was using the NHT phrase in question to express how much he hates the misconception that hookahs are used for such substances. Just a thought.

I agree, this seems like more of a warnable offense. But, he should have said NHT instead of what he did say.

[Giant Ninja Robot]

I mean rules are rules I guess, but he even apologized in another post for using said word after realizing he did, possibly not understanding he can edit his op?

[chromecarz00]

not to start another one of the stupid discusisons but have we perhaps become rather nazi-like with the rule enforcements?
for the most part i agree but this one....well ninja robot said what basically i mean....

[NickReppinThe909]

any use of words other than NHT results in a 5 day vacation you guys should know that

[duckhater]

Ironic though that the guy was using the NHT phrase in question to express how much he hates the misconception that hookahs are used for such substances. Just a thought.

Yeah but mentioning the word allows the word to be tied to HF through a search engine (regardless how it is used)...which brings unwanted attention and adds to the misconception we are trying to avoid. Everyone makes mistakes...but rules are rules and we all have to abide.

If you need an example goto Google, type in Hookah Forum and a NHT word of your choice (probably the more common ones), speaking of which, the MODs may wanna consider deleting some of those older threads that are still popping up! Edited September 30, 2008 by duckhater

[Canon]

thats how most people mention NHT, before it wasnt allowed to talk about it period but after mushrat became admin he starting allowing people to talk about the misconceptions of hookah and gave us the word "NHT" so that it wouldnt show up on google when people did search for NHT. I dont understand why people are arguing this, its clearly written in the rules. if more members would take 2 seconds out of their day and look at the rules then this wouldnt happen.

[EternalSoil]

yeah, the rules are nice and summed up now... it doesnt take long at all to read them...

however, if he did try to fix his mistake i would have given him a strict warning or maybe a shorter vacation.

we like noobs here, they keep us growing, we dont want to get them mad so they go to another (terrible) hookah forum.

[chromecarz00]

yeah, the rules are nice and summed up now... it doesnt take long at all to read them...

however, if he did try to fix his mistake i would have given him a strict warning or maybe a shorter vacation.

we like noobs here, they keep us growing, we dont want to get them mad so they go to another (terrible) hookah forum.

only point i was trying to make
and im out =)

[SimplexCoda]

Nice Nick. BTW I love the pic. The movie was pretty terrible, but man are you kosher.

[Balthazar]

Yeah but mentioning the word allows the word to be tied to HF through a search engine (regardless how it is used)...which brings unwanted attention and adds to the misconception we are trying to avoid. Everyone makes mistakes...but rules are rules and we all have to abide.

Just a friendly question, and I guess all these posts will be deleted in some hours anyways: but how does this bring unwanted attention to misconceptions? I have yet to come across any forum which doesn't allow using drug-related words. Hell, even concervative-christian forums wouldn't do a thing if someone mentioned a drug-related word especially if it was used to point out how you dislike this drug, and that people seem to connect to something you like. You're right in that it's tied to the forum, but any fool that would search for it and follow the link would also be met by our opposive stance to the drug/hookah combination, and drugs in generally.

Furthermore, how does this add to the misconception of hookah being mostly used for drugs? Right now Its impossible to find any drug-promoting posts, and without people being able to comment these posts and explain to the poster that he's a part of the problem, and that hookah's not supposed to be used for that, how on earth do we express any stance at all? Right now there's a rule, everyone should read it, but we all know that people doesn't. So fine, blame the kid for saying he dislikes the connection people make between drugs and hookah, but if people think that will make other members think twice before they do something similar, they're wrong, because almost all the people who does these mistakes are new ones, who have yet to bother to read the rule. This is not me critizizing any of the mods, I just think the reason for the rule is about as logic as creationism. If a good reason has been posten earlier I apologize, and it would be great if someone could post a link to that. Seems like something a lot of members are curious about.

Oh, and please don't delete these last few posts. Discussions is a good thing, at least for a forum with free expression. Edited September 30, 2008 by Balthazar

[Canon]

the drug rules came before i was a member of the forum. ive always found the reasons to be simple for this rule. if we start allowing drug terms and when it gets to google (which it will) then when people type up (pick any NHT) and they see that hookahforum pops up then they immediately think oh so thats what hookahs are for. another reason i have read was if we allow the terms then the amount of posts that are pro NHT will increase. believe it or not people, there are alot of posts about NHT that get taken out and no one knows, alot of modwork takes place behind the scenes and this is one of the few that actually gets posted here.

but yeah, ill go over the reasons that i know of one more time
1) pops up on google when people do search NHT. they think hookah=NHT
2) increases the amount of pro NHT posts.


about her apologizing. it was 15 hours after she made the post, and a few hours after nick pmed her telling her of her mistake. the reason it took so long for the punishment to happen is because nick was still learning the ropes as a guest mod.

[mushrat]

If you mke a mistake, report the post to us and tell us what you need. It's been used for a while now wioth no consequences.

As to the NHT use in general. Its started out as a way to discuss misconceptions about hookah. Or not even misconceptions because pleanty of people DO use their hookahs for that unfortunately. Then we started seeing posts like "my friend smoked some NHT and then we went to the park to smoke hookah." so people were abusing the one outlet we created to be able to discuss the issue and just started using it in conversation, and as canon said, it just started beign used everywhere.

The rules are specific, the extra stickie about illegal drugs, is specific, the several ban announcements a week, are specific, what more do people need to remind them? It's not hard to remember not to talk about illegal substances or words related to them. If you can't keep this one little thing in mind long enough to post, perhaps you arent responible enough to post on the forum.

[mushrat]

Yeah but mentioning the word allows the word to be tied to HF through a search engine (regardless how it is used)...which brings unwanted attention and adds to the misconception we are trying to avoid. Everyone makes mistakes...but rules are rules and we all have to abide.

Just a friendly question, and I guess all these posts will be deleted in some hours anyways: but how does this bring unwanted attention to misconceptions? I have yet to come across any forum which doesn't allow using drug-related words. Hell, even concervative-christian forums wouldn't do a thing if someone mentioned a drug-related word especially if it was used to point out how you dislike this drug, and that people seem to connect to something you like. You're right in that it's tied to the forum, but any fool that would search for it and follow the link would also be met by our opposive stance to the drug/hookah combination, and drugs in generally.

Furthermore, how does this add to the misconception of hookah being mostly used for drugs? Right now Its impossible to find any drug-promoting posts, and without people being able to comment these posts and explain to the poster that he's a part of the problem, and that hookah's not supposed to be used for that, how on earth do we express any stance at all? Right now there's a rule, everyone should read it, but we all know that people doesn't. So fine, blame the kid for saying he dislikes the connection people make between drugs and hookah, but if people think that will make other members think twice before they do something similar, they're wrong, because almost all the people who does these mistakes are new ones, who have yet to bother to read the rule. This is not me critizizing any of the mods, I just think the reason for the rule is about as logic as creationism. If a good reason has been posten earlier I apologize, and it would be great if someone could post a link to that. Seems like something a lot of members are curious about.

Oh, and please don't delete these last few posts. Discussions is a good thing, at least for a forum with free expression.

Welcome to Hookahforum.com, we are NOT every other forum. So don't compare us to them.
The are plenty of people, old and new users, who have tried to discuss drugs, and none of them have been allowed to. If they are new, they should have read all the rules, if they are older, they shoudl have known better, either way, we don't discuss certain topics. You will find this the care on the 3 major hookah forums I believe. We may be the only one that allows even limited discussion using NHT, or atleast we thought of it first.

To be plain and staright foreward, this is a privately owned forum and the ability to post here is a privilage, not a right. I have discussed this issue with the Owners of the forum and they think this is a fair compromise because THEY dont want such discussions associated with a forum they own as well as the public/google issue. People can do one of two things. One: they can follow the rules wich allow them the privilage of posting on this privately run forum, or two: they can go someplace else. Not to be unpleasant but thats the way it is.

As the on site Admin, i helped create the NHT terms so we could have some way of discussing these issues without violating the main rules. if following these simple rules is too hard, go play somewhere else...
thanks.

[Giant Ninja Robot]

All the points on both sides are fair IMO, and for the most part I side with the rules, but would always like to see more free speech. Don't get me wrong I think it's probably better to have the rules we do have a lil harsh than to have our posts and chat overrun with immaturaty, as there are more and more college and high school age kids smoking hookah, so I get it, though sometimes I feel that the punishment is a little stretched and harsh in certain circumstances. I don't like seeing someone with the attitude we're looking for get publicly posted about just like someone who's an idiot.

Thanks to all you guys for spelling out the rules and reasons behind them, especially Mush since he's prolly done this a jillion times.

Good conversation! We have actually been *gasp* civil and mature! Edited September 30, 2008 by giant ninja robot

[jezter6]

And really people - a 5 day ban for an internet site is "harsh" - what the hell is wrong with you people?

It's not like they are banned permanently - it's just a nice vacation to say "you did something wrong!" You can COME BACK from it and if you keep your nose clean, everything is ok - it's just a temporary wrist slap to say "bad doggie."

Are people that addicted to the internet that a few days away from one of the 800 trillion non-porn websites is somehow equal to the death penalty?

And I agree 100% with the mods/admins on this. This is Adrock and Mushy's site - and if they want to tell us we all have to wear pink bunny slippers while posting here - you have the freedom to find another forum, or wear the pink bunny slippers. This is a benevolent dictatorship and you volunteer to come here and post - so if you can't do it with respect, get the F out.

If you come to my house and piss in my pool, I will ban you from my home. If you come into the forum and piss into chat or threads, the mods will ban you from the forum. Same concept people.

[Stuie]

Are people that addicted to the internet that a few days away from one of the 800 trillion non-porn websites is somehow equal to the death penalty?

I am going to go with...Yes.

[EternalSoil]

And really people - a 5 day ban for an internet site is "harsh" - what the hell is wrong with you people?

It's not like they are banned permanently - it's just a nice vacation to say "you did something wrong!" You can COME BACK from it and if you keep your nose clean, everything is ok - it's just a temporary wrist slap to say "bad doggie."

Are people that addicted to the internet that a few days away from one of the 800 trillion non-porn websites is somehow equal to the death penalty?

And I agree 100% with the mods/admins on this. This is Adrock and Mushy's site - and if they want to tell us we all have to wear pink bunny slippers while posting here - you have the freedom to find another forum, or wear the pink bunny slippers. This is a benevolent dictatorship and you volunteer to come here and post - so if you can't do it with respect, get the F out.

If you come to my house and piss in my pool, I will ban you from my home. If you come into the forum and piss into chat or threads, the mods will ban you from the forum. Same concept people.

You know, even though i think this one could have been treated slightly different, i completely agree with this man! It might be a little difficult for me or some of the other people who frequent here. but i know that before i started coming here a lot, i wasnt on everyday so 5 days is nothing. Also, rules are rules, plain and simple.