HookahCaterpillar Posted February 5, 2006 Share Posted February 5, 2006 Hi, I wanted to know if someone could give me some advice on this subject. My campus does not allow a hookah to be smoked on campus or for me to even having one. They feel that it looks too much like drug paraphenalia. I think this is very ignorant, as you all know hookahs have been smoked for thousands of years. It is part of my lifestyle. Before I came to school I would smoke about 10-12 bowls a day and frequently visited hookah bars. In upstate NY they shut down all hookah bars a few years ago due to anti smoking laws. I dont smoke cigarettes, I dont smoke cigars, I dont do drugs and this is what I smoke. Should I write a letter to the dean and try to get special permission? Write in the newspaper? What kind of things should I include in my letter or email? Any input would be greatly appreciated. I must add that students who prefer to roll there own cigarettes are gladly given a written permission to have rolling papers on campus. If security ever sees rolling papers in your dorm you show them that letter and your aye ok, this is what I want for my shisha. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yashman19 Posted February 5, 2006 Share Posted February 5, 2006 Well for me, I go to a private school with the same rules as yours, considering hookah drug paraphanalia, but because its a private school, they can make any rules they want, and we have to accept it. I just smoke in my room only, and not outside. If you think you can pull this off, I can point you to a thread that was posted a while back for someone needing tips on smoking in their dorm room. I pulled this off for a year and a half with no major issues, and now I'm living on an oncampus apartment so I don't have to worry about RAs anymore. Oh and p.s. 10-12 bowls a day? Christ almighty... How long were each of these sessions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HookahCaterpillar Posted February 5, 2006 Author Share Posted February 5, 2006 HAHA yes man all my buddies tell me I need to cut the hookah down but its always right in front of me and I cant resist lol. Each of my sessions probably about an hour or so but it is passed around between 2-3 other ppl sometimes more. Well as far as in my dorm id be pretty paranoid there are smoke detectors and the smell i think would spread. I do know people who smoke cigs in there dorm with a combination of fans and such. I wouldnt mind readin that thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HookahCaterpillar Posted February 5, 2006 Author Share Posted February 5, 2006 One thing i forgot to add, I have been told if a hookah is found it is considered drug paraphenalia no matter what which means immediate expulsion from the school. Something I am not willing to risk. If anything id wanna figure out a way to set a hookah up in my car and just drive around smoking shisha. Hookahs are getting more and more popular i wish administration would understand. The major problem is my school is unique being that there are ALOT of tourists who come to visit and eat at the restaurants on campus(culinary school) they gawk and think we are the greatest ppl ever, seeing them sitting outside smoking what looks like to them a bong would ruin the "professionalism" obsession the school has with its students. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aronparsons Posted February 5, 2006 Share Posted February 5, 2006 Smoke in your dorm and possibly get a hookah with a case so you can break it down after each session and "hide" it. Although, if you're smoking 10-12 bowls a day, the only time you're taking a break is when you're in class or sleeping, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[LB] Posted February 5, 2006 Share Posted February 5, 2006 speak to the dean. Ignorance is the only thing that makes people frown upon hookahs, and can be corrected pretty easily Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HookahCaterpillar Posted February 5, 2006 Author Share Posted February 5, 2006 I USED to smoke 10-12 bowls a day obviously I dont have time anymore now that im in school. Before I was just a hermit crab without a job sitting up in my room pretty much all day. I would go over other ppls houses and they would be smoking shisha. Nowadays one or 2 bowls a day would be more then enough. I had a lot of shisha smoking friends back home but up at college ppl think im crazy when i mention shisha there like a hookah with tobacco?? yourrr weirrddd lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahc87 Posted February 5, 2006 Share Posted February 5, 2006 id at least write a letter to the dean explaining your position... what do you have to loose? i would think that, after explaining the history/ cultural significance, the rules could be bent for you (especially if you mention those who are allowed to smoke hand rolled cigarettes) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HookahCaterpillar Posted February 5, 2006 Author Share Posted February 5, 2006 AND the sad sad thing is there is one kid who is muslim and smokes shisha on campus because he told the dean it was a religous thing. Which is BS because its not religous its cultural. It is common among muslims because it is common in the middle east but it has nothing to do with religon am i right?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pavlakos_politakos Posted February 5, 2006 Share Posted February 5, 2006 (in hill billy voice)well that is just downright stupid!!! im glad im not going to college for another 2 years and when i do ill pick a college who doesnt have a narrow minded dean.why dont you say your muslim too?and say its religous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmexx Posted February 5, 2006 Share Posted February 5, 2006 Well if it worked for your muslim friend, why can't it work for you? Ahh the privelages of living at home!Good luck and let us know what happens.Jon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yashman19 Posted February 5, 2006 Share Posted February 5, 2006 Ok well here are all the threads in which people inquire about smoking in their dorms, all of which I've posted in and given pretty much the same advice, so here ya go: [url="http://hookahforum.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1758&KW=dorm+room"] http://hookahforum.com/forum/forum_posts.a...asp?TID=1758&KW[/url] =dorm+room [url="http://hookahforum.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1809&KW"]http://hookahforum.com/forum/forum_posts.a...asp?TID=1809&KW[/url] =dorm+room [url="http://hookahforum.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1500&KW"]http://hookahforum.com/forum/forum_posts.a...asp?TID=1500&KW[/url] =dorm+room://http://hookahforum.com/forum/forum_... =dorm+room So like I said, my school is really very similar to yours in their rules on the hookah being drug paraphanelia. If you want to argue with them, let them know that if they want to ban hookah as drug Par, they will also have to ban apples, bottles, pen caps, f**king anything! All of these things plus an infinate amount of other things are considered drug Paraphanalia. This isn't as strong as baning a hookah, because it really is just a large bong, but it helps If you have any more questions about smoking in the dorm, go ahead and ask away, and I'll see if I can help some more. But for now, just peruse through these threads and see if you can use any ideas, if your bold enough. But if it really comes to being kicked out of campus, you just might have to stick to going to the lounges. Smoking in your car while driving just isn't a safe hobby... Not worth getting in an accident over =-/ Good luck, and keep us posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGrandPuba Posted February 5, 2006 Share Posted February 5, 2006 My school also doesn’t allow hookahs in our dorm. We can smoke on campus but it can’t be anywhere near the dorms. My roommate and me have smoked in my room several times but realized it isn’t worth the risk. I hate having to have to keep the hookah in our trunk. I am not sure of my schools policy is on rolling papers but we also want to take a stand against the hookah ban. If you have any success I definitely want to know how. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mopower84 Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 Hey there Caterpiller, I'm sure there are a few other people at your school that enjoy hookah(for what it's intended for), it might be a good idea to gather a small group of fellow smokers to take your rightful greivence to the dean. Safety in numbers, and also i think you may have a better chance of being taken seriously. There is a website called the "Sacred Narghile" just do a google search for it. This website does an excelent job of detailing the history and cultural significance of out beloved hookah. I say print it out and present it with your greivence, it makes a fine argument. If other forms of tabacco use are permited on campus then hookah should be as well. You could also make a case for cultural discrimination, but i suggest treading lightly with that one. You may also suggest a permit system. My friend who also recently joined the forum attends college in Greensboro NC, he had to register his hookah but now he can have no problem. It cost 5 bucks though, but small price to pay if it's your only way to smoke. On a funny side note, the college uses the same stickers as they use to register bicycles, so his hookah has a sticker on the bottom of the base that says "Bike Permit" I hope some of that help you out, good luck fighting the man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HookahCaterpillar Posted February 6, 2006 Author Share Posted February 6, 2006 Thanks everyone you all have motivated me alot to stand up for my hookah smoking on campus. I went and spoke to the dean today and he had no idea what a hookah was. I explained it to him and he asked me alot of questions in fact he even seemed interested in them. He asked what it smells like, if its illegal and i explained there are actually hookah bars and I am planning on opening my own when i graduate. He said it shouldn't be a problem but he needs to talk to one other dean and he will call me tommorow for the final word. Wish me luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dizzing Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 i love seeing people make a difference. congratulations, and good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mopower84 Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 WooHoo, allright Caterpillar. Good luck, man. We've got our fingers crossed for ya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PipeSmokeMcGee Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 The idea of a permit sounds effective but humorous! haha, Yeah, you've got to fight...for your right...to par-tee! haha, what the heck is that from? Some crappy song I think. Might I ask, what school do you go to, HookahCatapillar? What about you, Yashman? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HookahCaterpillar Posted February 7, 2006 Author Share Posted February 7, 2006 I goto the culinary institute of america in hyde park ny. There extremely big on professionalism and have a major pole stuck up there A** if you ask me. If you dont properly introduce yourself to someone before asking a simple question your in big trouble, dont open a door for someone, arent clean shaven, clothes not ironed, all that stuff you get demerits. My biggest problem is saying "Yea" instead "Yes" and a hookah smoked on campus with all the old tourists they dont really like but i dont fall into the system i get away with as much as i can right on the edge. I will fight tooth and nail if i feel it is my right. AH sorry to ramble haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
methodical13 Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 [quote name='PipeSmokeMcGee']The idea of a permit sounds effective but humorous! haha, Yeah, you've got to fight...for your right...to par-tee! haha, what the heck is that from? Some crappy song I think. Might I ask, what school do you go to, HookahCatapillar? What about you, Yashman?[/quote] The Beastie Boys! C'mon Man! Gotta know the classics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[LB] Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 thanks for pickin up on that methodical, beastie boys rule kick ass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HookahCaterpillar Posted February 8, 2006 Author Share Posted February 8, 2006 I CAN SMOKE SHISHA dean called me today to let me know it isnt a problem at all as long as i smoke in designated areas and all that! SO psyched cant wait to buy a hookah and all the shisha to go with it. Thnx all for the good advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monil Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 That's good to hear. Have fun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[LB] Posted February 11, 2006 Share Posted February 11, 2006 baby steps to overcoming ignorance! i had to survive a rumour circulating my town that i was a serious pothead because i owned a number of hookahs myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HookahCaterpillar Posted February 11, 2006 Author Share Posted February 11, 2006 Exactly, my cousin took a hit of my hookah and she loved it. She asked me to help her out with starting out her shisha smoking hobby and i took her to the hookah bar and got her a hookah, shisha, coals, the whole 9. I taught her how to pack a hookah, clean, etc... turns our she brought it home and my uncle smashed it out of anger thinking it was a bong!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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