modisess Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 Okay, so I talked with a few people in chat about my problem. So whenever I smoked I get this tingly sensation on the back of my throat with my QT, Medium and Razan. The smoke is not harsh but it was tingly to the point of discomfort. I use 3 cocos on my bowl.I tried smoking with the AF and also the Fantasia I got, but with both session I got this same problem. So I did a little investigation, when I removed my bowl, ashes were building up on top of the bowl grommet of the QT, and when I pulled my hose from the hose port, the tip of the hose was actually covered in thin layer of ash. So I think this might be the problem, everytime I take a pull, I also inhale some ash. But the thing is, how? This baffles me. I've tired using more water in the base but that didn't help. I seriously need your guidance here. I am freaked the hell out that I've been inhaling ash all this time. Please help!I am gonna take apart the QT and see as to what might cause this problem. I'll keep you guys posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeeeeeve Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 how does it look? it sounds to me like it could be rust, i had the same problem and made the same mistake a few months ago.what hose are you using? any ash would have to go through water to get into the hose which is pretty impossible im afraid my friendPictures may help?Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modisess Posted October 25, 2008 Author Share Posted October 25, 2008 (edited) QUOTE (steeeeeeve @ Oct 25 2008, 10:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>how does it look? it sounds to me like it could be rust, i had the same problem and made the same mistake a few months ago.what hose are you using? any ash would have to go through water to get into the hose which is pretty impossible im afraid my friendPictures may help?SteveI don't think it's rust. QT is brand new! (i made a thread about it). No pics sorry. Okay, so I unscrewed the downstem and found a layer of ash formed on top of the thread. I think this is where is could travel. Since the ashes are so fine, If I don't properly screw the downstem could that lead to a small leak for them to travel through? Since it is super close to the hose port. I am using a Razan. But thing is, when I checked, the QT was pretty much air tight.Is there anything I could adjust when using with a phunnel bowl? Edited October 25, 2008 by modisess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EternalSoil Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 maybe too much water? if its getting in the water that's ok, but its splashing it up high enough to get to the tip of the hose?maybe put holes farther from middle hole on phunnel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmokinMoose Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 The same thing happens to me so I just started using my mod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldog_916 Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 This happens to me, but ash doesnt get in the water. I would be able to tell because usually there is fine sand that comes in coconut coals, and none of that is present in the water. How about for you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modisess Posted October 26, 2008 Author Share Posted October 26, 2008 QUOTE (EternalSoil @ Oct 25 2008, 11:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>maybe too much water? if its getting in the water that's ok, but its splashing it up high enough to get to the tip of the hose?maybe put holes farther from middle hole on phunnel.I realized that the water level on the QT needs a pretty low water level to stop the water from splashing high enough to reach the hose ports. I also tried poking holes only on the outer edge of the bowl. I'll post a pic of how I set up my phunnel bowl.QUOTE (Bulldog_916 @ Oct 26 2008, 01:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>This happens to me, but ash doesnt get in the water. I would be able to tell because usually there is fine sand that comes in coconut coals, and none of that is present in the water. How about for you?I haven't paid much attention to the water.. I'm gonna try smoke again tonight and see how it goes. Pics will probably be there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indian_villager Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 3 cocos? Are you sure you are not just burning the tobacco? I get clouds with just two! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modisess Posted October 26, 2008 Author Share Posted October 26, 2008 You know what, I think I've figured it out. I am smoking right now and I don't get that tingly sensation anymore. 3 cocos are alright, they don't burn the tobacco, really. I think that the holes I made on the phunnel were too big, so ash gets sucked down to the stem. Now I've poked MUCH smaller holes and it seems to fix the problem. Thanks a bunch for the replies. I've also lowered the water level in the base. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuie Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 the ash you are talking about is normal... just clean more often or dab it between bowls with a wet paper towel. Cocos it's better to use small holes the ash is fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codename067 Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 Wait, you are getting ash, as in from the coals on top of your bowl? If that's the case, then that is IMPOSSIBLE. The ash gets annihilated by the time it hits the water.The only thought that might make any sense is that you might not have enough water..add more water and make sure that when you are taking drags, the water level is not going below the stem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akkonja Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 Try using less coals and try making smaller wholes and clean your charcoal constantly, that happens to me also but it usually goes to the base instead of through the hole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willbb123 Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 How many times have you smoked outta it? I find with my hookah that the smoke can somehow condense in the hose, and if I dont blow the heck outta it before I smoke I suck back a bunch of crap. If I clear out the (remove a plug and blow) hose and the base when Im done smoking I dont have this problem the next time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sahara Smoke Co Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 (edited) It seems pretty much impossible for ash to get into your hose. Usually particulate matter gets in a hose from water getting into it and rotting it. Otherwise there's probably filings or sand stuck in your stem. Edited October 27, 2008 by Sahara Smoke Co Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
untitled Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 I'm almost 1000% positive that it's not ash, I would say it's "smoke residue"You get this if you don't blow your hoses out after a session or before using them. It's the smoke leftovers that sit in the hose overnight or whatever and cause this "ash"try blowing them out before and after each use (off of the hookah) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newjacksm Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 I've noticed i get a lot of "ash" in my non washable hoses which leads me to believe its rust not ash... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r1v3th3ad Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 QUOTE (Codename067 @ Oct 26 2008, 06:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Wait, you are getting ash, as in from the coals on top of your bowl? If that's the case, then that is IMPOSSIBLE. The ash gets annihilated by the time it hits the water.The only thought that might make any sense is that you might not have enough water..add more water and make sure that when you are taking drags, the water level is not going below the stem.agreed 100%either A. too much water, gettin in hose and rust, or B. stem is above water lever so ash can travel(I think its unlikely)with my old mitsuba, I had the rust issue, it was a dark purple vase that appeared black, you could not see the water level. The trick to get it right and not ruin anymore hoses is to...add water, inhale through port, no hose attached...if you get any moisture, your level is too high...take it from there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akkonja Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 take the hose poor some water down it go outside on ur lawn and start spinning the hose around your head like a helicopter thats what i ussaly do and it works perfectly or i just blow really hard into it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r1v3th3ad Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 QUOTE (akkonja @ Oct 27 2008, 11:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>take the hose poor some water down it go outside on ur lawn and start spinning the hose around your head like a helicopter thats what i ussaly do and it works perfectly or i just blow really hard into it"North Carolina, Take your shirt off, Whirl it 'round your head like a helicopter!" thats what I did with the junk mitsuba hoses, only helps temporarily...wouldnt recommend it with anything fancy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drabin Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 witht he qaulity issues some see in razans and nammors I would certainly not swing it around my head. thats asking for a break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modisess Posted October 28, 2008 Author Share Posted October 28, 2008 (edited) yeah, i could see the mouthtip going off and causing serious hurt. thanks for the replies guys, actually i do blow out the hose after every session, don't want to rinse water through the hose after every session though as i've found out that it takes a REALLY long time for it to dry out. Edited October 28, 2008 by modisess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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