inino Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 Ok guys i dont want to sound like a wimp but im starting to think i am one : (. I just started using tangiers, three times to be exact. and well it is really kicking my ass. i have been smoking for a long time, about 4 years, and i think i have been defeated by the black goodness that comes out of a tangiers pouch. The stuff is incredible strong and i am not able to take more than a little puff without coughing like a little girl.Here is my basic setup, please tell me if something is wrong:pharonie hookah with ice in the base(noticed is was a little better with ice)Phunnel bowl(have not tried it in standard bowl)i poke 2 rings of holes areound the outside of the bowl and sometimes 1 in the middleI use bulk coals, similar to hookah bar coals i guess, orange wood if it really matters.i let my tobacco acclimate for about 4 hours shaking it every hour and when it started to smell right i covered it up. i pack my bowl pretty loose and all the way to the rimi then put about 4 pieces of coal along the outer edges ( medium to small sized chunks)i take a few hits, feel light headed as heck then as the base starts filling up with more smoke it becomes really hard to hit without coughing up a lunghowever if i take a coal off it becomes really thin smoke.I havent tried mixing yet, mainly becuase im scared that two brands that are so different wont go good together.If anyone has any good advice i would love to hear it.Im starting to think that with every cough a little more wimpiness leaves my body, but i really want to enjoy the stuff becuase everyone talks so highly of it.any help would be greatly appreciatedthanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuie Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 PACK THAT BACCY IN THERE!Plus Check out the Wiki.... http://www.hookahforum.com/wiki/index.php/Tangiers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryno Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 With Tangiers you want to pack it and I use little heat. Check out the link Stuie posted as well as some of the other howtos on Tangiers. It's tricky to get right sometimes at first, but once you do its nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inino Posted October 31, 2008 Author Share Posted October 31, 2008 thanks for that link. im watching all the how-to videos right now. and ya i think i am using too much heat. hopefully tonight i will triumph and kick its ass for a change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dead_lemons Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 pack it tight!! until the juices oozz out from between your fingers!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inino Posted October 31, 2008 Author Share Posted October 31, 2008 Ok i will definately pack it tight. i usually pack my other stuff tight too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuie Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 I personally have been packing like snoopy since i started, that seems to work best for me. Except my whole pattern is completely different. 4 rings of holes none over the center hole in a phunnel. In a standard bowl, holes all over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inino Posted October 31, 2008 Author Share Posted October 31, 2008 hmm maybe ill try that. i guess with more holes the tobacco will get more air and not be as hot. Does it smoke the same out of a standard bowl or do the flavors fade much faster? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cotsi95 Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 also dont use ice in the bad just use cold water it seems to kill the flavor a little bit when you use ice. like everyone else said PACK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattathayde Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 is it harsh or just a big tickle, you may be using a little to much coal, try breaking smaller pieces or hang them off the edge of the bowl some.your getting flavor though right?also make sure you have something to drink while you smoke it, i can take a small hit of it and get a huge tickle that makes me cough like a 90 year old smoker but i take a little sip and its fine.-matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuie Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 You can smoke in a standard bowl just don't pack it as tight as a phunnel. It's really nothing to it. That's how I started in Tangiers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattathayde Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 QUOTE (Stuie @ Oct 31 2008, 05:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>You can smoke in a standard bowl just don't pack it as tight as a phunnel. It's really nothing to it. That's how I started in Tangiers.i rarely if every touch my phunnel, to much waste and its not hard to pack tangiers i a standard bowl-matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 cannot pack tangiers loose. if its thin and harsh, you underpacked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erufiku Posted November 1, 2008 Share Posted November 1, 2008 The only thing that made a huge difference for me was poking the holes all the way down to the bottom of the bowl; pack lots of that good stuff as well... It's death if you underpack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inino Posted November 1, 2008 Author Share Posted November 1, 2008 ok i just smoked my first bowl that i actually enjoyed, i packed it tight like you guys all said and used less coals. i thought i was using too little of coals at first compared to what im used to using, but it smoked beautifully. it gives me a tingle in my throat but i kinda like it.i think i still like my layalina more, called me old fashioned i guess lol. but im definately starting to get a feel for tangiers. i only have a few flavors so far but i think i will start buying more.i put more holes also. i used the pattern thats in one of these threads with the 20 holes.thank you guys so much for all your help and advice. im new to this forum but you guys have been very welcoming and helpful!!!!!also horchata is surprisingly good.thanks again everyone, and if you have any other advice that you think i should know please feel free to inform me!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newjacksm Posted November 1, 2008 Share Posted November 1, 2008 I got a question I usually get the rubbery taste from Tangiers, how do I get rid of that? should I pack it tighter? i usually over pack but never pack tightly since I over pack I usually just let the foil pack it down since I make the foil nice and tight and usually that makes it tighter... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldog_916 Posted November 1, 2008 Share Posted November 1, 2008 I've never had a rubbery taste come from Tangiers. Pack it to where the tobacco sits fluffed up to 1/2" over the rim of the bowl, then pack it down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newjacksm Posted November 1, 2008 Share Posted November 1, 2008 QUOTE (Bulldog_916 @ Nov 1 2008, 01:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I've never had a rubbery taste come from Tangiers. Pack it to where the tobacco sits fluffed up to 1/2" over the rim of the bowl, then pack it down.like pack it down to the rim? ill squish the shit out of it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattathayde Posted November 1, 2008 Share Posted November 1, 2008 QUOTE (newjacksm @ Nov 1 2008, 02:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (Bulldog_916 @ Nov 1 2008, 01:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I've never had a rubbery taste come from Tangiers. Pack it to where the tobacco sits fluffed up to 1/2" over the rim of the bowl, then pack it down.like pack it down to the rim? ill squish the shit out of it!no like fluff it like you would with normal tobacco that high and then push it down is what he is saying.personally i find that smashing it that much is over kill for me. i just pull clump by clump out put it in the bowl and push it down some but not much but i am doing it in a mod bowl, i still dont pack to hard in a phunnel though, it is harder than any other shisha but not as hard as is suggested by many (heck i can even get fine results from totaly fluffing it, i think its really in the heat management)-matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdl Posted November 1, 2008 Share Posted November 1, 2008 QUOTE (newjacksm @ Oct 31 2008, 10:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I got a question I usually get the rubbery taste from Tangiers, how do I get rid of that? should I pack it tighter? i usually over pack but never pack tightly since I over pack I usually just let the foil pack it down since I make the foil nice and tight and usually that makes it tighter...Are you using a new hose or anything that may have a rubber taste to it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop Posted November 1, 2008 Share Posted November 1, 2008 QUOTE (mattathayde @ Nov 1 2008, 11:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (newjacksm @ Nov 1 2008, 02:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (Bulldog_916 @ Nov 1 2008, 01:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I've never had a rubbery taste come from Tangiers. Pack it to where the tobacco sits fluffed up to 1/2" over the rim of the bowl, then pack it down.like pack it down to the rim? ill squish the shit out of it!no like fluff it like you would with normal tobacco that high and then push it down is what he is saying.personally i find that smashing it that much is over kill for me. i just pull clump by clump out put it in the bowl and push it down some but not much but i am doing it in a mod bowl, i still dont pack to hard in a phunnel though, it is harder than any other shisha but not as hard as is suggested by many (heck i can even get fine results from totaly fluffing it, i think its really in the heat management)-mattif you saw how much tobacco eric uses when you order a bowl at the lounge... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattathayde Posted November 1, 2008 Share Posted November 1, 2008 QUOTE (Scoop @ Nov 1 2008, 05:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (mattathayde @ Nov 1 2008, 11:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (newjacksm @ Nov 1 2008, 02:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (Bulldog_916 @ Nov 1 2008, 01:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I've never had a rubbery taste come from Tangiers. Pack it to where the tobacco sits fluffed up to 1/2" over the rim of the bowl, then pack it down.like pack it down to the rim? ill squish the shit out of it!no like fluff it like you would with normal tobacco that high and then push it down is what he is saying.personally i find that smashing it that much is over kill for me. i just pull clump by clump out put it in the bowl and push it down some but not much but i am doing it in a mod bowl, i still dont pack to hard in a phunnel though, it is harder than any other shisha but not as hard as is suggested by many (heck i can even get fine results from totaly fluffing it, i think its really in the heat management)-mattif you saw how much tobacco eric uses when you order a bowl at the lounge...ive heard, i will have to go out to cali and visit family and stop by just to smoke at his lounge cause either im missing retardedly huge flavor or maybe just the way i pack it works fine-matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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