newjacksm Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 (edited) My AF is harsh and im getting no clouds i never got this before its the first time i followed the how to pack AF in a funnel bowl video I cut the coals in half and im still getting harshness..blah double foil and everything. tastes good but im getting harsh in the back of my throat. Edited November 4, 2008 by newjacksm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMoodz Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 You know what? When AF started releasing new flavors I noticed that some of them were harsh. I've bought 2x 250g tubs of AF Watermelon. The first tub I bought was harsh and I only used it as a mixer. The 2nd tub I bought was perfect. You maybe just bought a bad batch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newjacksm Posted November 4, 2008 Author Share Posted November 4, 2008 I smoked this last time it wasnt harsh last time then again this was like 2 weeks ago when I smoked it so maybe I dont remember but I am almost positive it wasntt harsh and this is the golden esk apple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newjacksm Posted November 4, 2008 Author Share Posted November 4, 2008 (edited) I think the double foil some how screwed up really really bad with my hole pattern Im gonna re-try with single foil and my old hole pattern. I usually use bigger holes and single foil with AF in a small funnel... Edited November 4, 2008 by newjacksm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anxiety Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 check the exp date, i had af from 2007 that burned the hell outta me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newjacksm Posted November 4, 2008 Author Share Posted November 4, 2008 (edited) Much much much... I fixed it by doing single foil and my hole pattern and putting a 1/4 of an exotica and 2 halfs of a 1/4 on there right now much better smoke and flavor no harshness... Edited November 4, 2008 by newjacksm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giant Ninja Robot Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 how did you break your 1/4s in half? coals are so strong I'd like to know for my personal reference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newjacksm Posted November 5, 2008 Author Share Posted November 5, 2008 (edited) when they are hot I grab them with one pair of tongs and then I score them with another pair of tongs and then they break of course you must be careful and precise or they will break apart into a lot of peices and be real uneven but for the most part very easy process and so far ive been successful doing so Edited November 5, 2008 by newjacksm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hippo_Master Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 Af is heat sensitive like a bitch, You have to keep your coals moving like a train. Sometimes I have to flip my shisha ove rin the bowl, if worst comes to worst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinamon Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 QUOTE (Hippo_Master @ Nov 5 2008, 02:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Af is heat sensitive like a bitch, You have to keep your coals moving like a train. Sometimes I have to flip my shisha ove rin the bowl, if worst comes to worst.i never move my coals around... the coal stays in the same spot for the whole duration unless i need to ash but it goes right back in the same spot.the next coal will go in a different location though.no harshness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattarios2 Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 im w/ chinamon, sounds like your using too much heat hippo_master Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bye bye now have fun Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 i just got a tub of peach and it tastes like mulch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hojo Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 QUOTE (GNUWorldOrder @ Nov 4 2008, 10:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>i just got a tub of peach and it tastes like mulch.So I'm not the only one? I thought I was doing something wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voski Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 Whats the date on your peach? Peach is my favorite don't tell me it went to shit!!!Apricot smells like fucking windex and melon smells like a tea bag. Watermelon sucks now too =( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nathan_Choi Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 QUOTE (voski @ Nov 4 2008, 10:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Whats the date on your peach? Peach is my favorite don't tell me it went to shit!!!Apricot smells like fucking windex and melon smells like a tea bag. Watermelon sucks now too =(I just had some from a couple 50g packs of watermelon, it was excellent.As was my grape.Is it only the 250g packs that have been giving people problems? I was really considering buying 250g of each, they're so damn good. Not hard to work with like tangiers either... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voski Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 QUOTE (nathan_Choi @ Nov 4 2008, 11:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (voski @ Nov 4 2008, 10:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Whats the date on your peach? Peach is my favorite don't tell me it went to shit!!!Apricot smells like fucking windex and melon smells like a tea bag. Watermelon sucks now too =(I just had some from a couple 50g packs of watermelon, it was excellent.As was my grape.Is it only the 250g packs that have been giving people problems? I was really considering buying 250g of each, they're so damn good. Not hard to work with like tangiers either...I don't know I haven't picked anything up in 50g boxes lately. The color of watermelon has changed from red to a sort of shit brown.It is quite disappointing I don't want to find another brand to smoke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codename067 Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 Keep the coals on the run!I heard a new person was taking over the company? I hope this is not true, because that would be a disaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DJ_HOSSEIX Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 i have new batches of AF (Aug 2008) and they all taste good. I use a standard egyption and pack the AF by sprinkling till it goes a little bit over the rim. 2 QL and i get about a 1-2 hr sess depending on who smokes with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voski Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 QUOTE (DJ_HOSSEIX @ Nov 4 2008, 11:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>i have new batches of AF (Aug 2008) and they all taste good. I use a standard egyption and pack the AF by sprinkling till it goes a little bit over the rim. 2 QL and i get about a 1-2 hr sess depending on who smokes with me.I also heard Aug 08 is supposed to be good. Where do you get yours from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DJ_HOSSEIX Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 by my local persian market: "Super Irvine". I was on another forum and supposdly john from 'banned vendor due to nht reference' is their supplier.I know a couple of good shops but they're kind of far from the glendale/burnak area which is where tujunga is i think...There is a smoke shop in La Verne on foothill blvd passed the 210 freeway which sales a good amount of tabby for a decent price. There is also another persian market in Upland on mountain avenue and foothill called "Super upland / farmers market" which has a lot of fusion, al waha, AF, and nakhla for some amazing prices. There is also Kings market in anaheim which sales a lot of hookahs and tobacco. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giant Ninja Robot Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 newjack, I'm also having these same issues. I hope I can find a good solution or I will be a sad sad ninja forevermore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newjacksm Posted November 5, 2008 Author Share Posted November 5, 2008 (edited) try using bigger holes on the foil and single foil also dont forget to put a hoil in the middle and get good air flow with a funnel that fixed my harshness.Ill take a picture of my hoil pattern when im done with my session.. I always smoke after im done with classes with the day... Always relaxing EDIT: I bought a new tangiers bowl and the middle part is up a lot and seems to obstruct the flow a lot with the foil a bit might mess up a session . It's easily fixed if you over a pack a tiny bit. But I never overpack with AF.. Edited November 5, 2008 by newjacksm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newjacksm Posted November 5, 2008 Author Share Posted November 5, 2008 that hole pattern is what I pretty much use for everything even tangiers but it doesnt really work the best on tangiers sometimes it does sometimes it doesnt. I think its more-so my packing actually now that I think about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToncSTAR Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 QUOTE (newjacksm @ Nov 5 2008, 11:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>that hole pattern is what I pretty much use for everything even tangiers but it doesnt really work the best on tangiers sometimes it does sometimes it doesnt. I think its more-so my packing actually now that I think about it.those, are some pretty huge holes my friend. on the topic, my first tub of AF watermelon was like that. I got some clouds, but i couldnt stand to hit it for more than 2 seconds. I would get a weird sour-ie, stingy feeling in the back of my throat. But i wasnt hesitant to order a 2nd batch because after i left the lid open in my closet overnight, my room was filled with an intoxicating watermelon bubblegum smell, and the shisha was AWESOME. Same goes with my AF strawberry. I let it open in my car over night, and when i woke up to drive in town the next day, my car smelled awesome, smoked a bowl when i got back and it was perfect. For my AF cherry, i dont know...its weird. Maybe Ill buy some AF Cola and mix it and see if it gets any better, because right now, it just tastes really burnt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JillyIsJustKidding Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 Hah i'll tell you the prob. Its the new AFEVER SINCE that damn company has changed the cut and flavor of the tobacco...EVERY damn sample and TUB I have come across sucked horribly.I tried different holes on the foil, different layers of foil, more, less coals, different bowls, ACCLIMATING for a week!NadaLike the flavor are too "strong" to the throat that I can't even take full draws while other shishas like SB and Hookah Hookah smoke smooth and great like a dreamThe new owner of Af should resign BTW, the only thing that KINDA helps is to pack down the tobacco down a lil if you pack it in the phunnel. Not to a point that the juices start coming out, but just to get the air pockets out of the tobacco. I mean, the irritating feeling on the throat is still there, but AF starts to smoke soooo much better when its done like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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