List Of Banned Vendors Is Now Posted Where Everyone Can See....

[mushrat]

pinned at the top of this section AND in the rules section. Note that typing "banned vendor" will NOT be an acceptable alternative. If you got soemthign from one of these vendors, just don't talk about where you got it. This list is NOT open to negotiation.

[ryno]

Just a quick question. The chronic hookah coals are sold on hookah company.... what should we call those? Just CH coals, or not mention them?

[Hojo]

He said in chat the other day you could call them "Chron" or maybe just CH, as long as the full name isn't spelled out.

[chromecarz00]

J&R hookahs or anything run by Jimmy Zaid
Chronic Hookah because of their name and the drug association.
Pimp Your Hookah for the troubles they stirred up here before. Don't ask I'm not going into it again.
Genuine Hookahs another long story but I thin they might be gone now anyways.
The Devil's Playground. (unless you have a problem you need help with.)

Other sites that have lost their posting privilages for non-participation can still be discussed by members to their hearts content, they just can't post stuff about themselves anymore.

Now that these banned sites are posted, less tolerance will be shown for people posting about these sites.

Simply typing "Banned Vendor" does NOT allow you to talk about a vendor.


That clear things up?

Personally I think that someone should write a breif summary (paragraph or less) about what troubles have been had and why they are banned, and this should be posted in public view so visitors also know what they are dealing with when buying from these.

[Rayneuki]

J&R hookahs or anything run by Jimmy Zaid
Chronic Hookah because of their name and the drug association.
Pimp Your Hookah for the troubles they stirred up here before. Don't ask I'm not going into it again.
Genuine Hookahs another long story but I thin they might be gone now anyways.
The Devil's Playground. (unless you have a problem you need help with.)

Other sites that have lost their posting privilages for non-participation can still be discussed by members to their hearts content, they just can't post stuff about themselves anymore.

Now that these banned sites are posted, less tolerance will be shown for people posting about these sites.

Simply typing "Banned Vendor" does NOT allow you to talk about a vendor.


That clear things up?

Personally I think that someone should write a breif summary (paragraph or less) about what troubles have been had and why they are banned, and this should be posted in public view so visitors also know what they are dealing with when buying from these.

I agree with this. I know that when I first came here I was confused as to who to buy from. It'd be nice for newbies to know who to watch out for.

[modisess]

J&R hookahs or anything run by Jimmy Zaid
Chronic Hookah because of their name and the drug association.
Pimp Your Hookah for the troubles they stirred up here before. Don't ask I'm not going into it again.
Genuine Hookahs another long story but I thin they might be gone now anyways.
The Devil's Playground. (unless you have a problem you need help with.)

Other sites that have lost their posting privilages for non-participation can still be discussed by members to their hearts content, they just can't post stuff about themselves anymore.

Now that these banned sites are posted, less tolerance will be shown for people posting about these sites.

Simply typing "Banned Vendor" does NOT allow you to talk about a vendor.


That clear things up?

Personally I think that someone should write a brief summary (paragraph or less) about what troubles have been had and why they are banned, and this should be posted in public view so visitors also know what they are dealing with when buying from these.

that is actually a good idea.

[Johnny_D]

And the minute we do that major drama will unfold.

What I will say is that each one (bar a certain c-----hookah.com*) have acted in such a way
as to be untrustworthy.

You wanna take a risk?

JD

* - We tried everything with John from CH. But rules are rules

[Barnaby]

I'm confused with the CH ban. The word chronic means something reoccurring, like what I'm sure John would like to be your business. The website itself makes no mention of anything illegal. So, just because he chose the word chronic, and it happens to be slang for something illegal, even though he make no reference to anything illegal, it gets the ban?

Not trying to stir up anything, just curious. Maybe I missed something that does make that reference... I mean, you don't say you can't mention the product Coke, just because it happens to be share the same name as a drug...

And the minute we do that major drama will unfold.

What I will say is that each one (bar a certain c-----hookah.com*) have acted in such a way
as to be untrustworthy.

You wanna take a risk?

JD

* - We tried everything with John from CH. But rules are rules

[Johnny_D]

I'll go on a limb here.

But Cola is not referenced in such a way as to infer illegal use.
C****c and hookah's are suggestive of an illegal use.

IE :-

"I Drank a Coke"
"I smoked some C****c Hookah"

See what I did there?

I, the mods, even mushrat don't make the rules I'm afraid

JD

[Barnaby]

Not going to bump heads here, just wondering. I could play devil's advocate all day, as it all comes down perception really. But to be fair on the side of the ban, when I first saw that name, it is the first thing that popped into my head. Whether intended or not, I would've chosen something that comes off slightly more professional..

I'll go on a limb here.

But Cola is not referenced in such a way as to infer illegal use.
C****c and hookah's are suggestive of an illegal use.

IE :-

"I Drank a Coke"
"I smoked some C****c Hookah"

See what I did there?

I, the mods, even mushrat don't make the rules I'm afraid

JD

[Johnny_D]

Not going to bump heads here, just wondering. I could play devil's advocate all day, as it all comes down perception really. But to be fair on the side of the ban, when I first saw that name, it is the first thing that popped into my head. Whether intended or not, I would've chosen something that comes off slightly more professional..

I am inclined to believe that it was probably intentional. And I don't think we bumped heads. You actually raised a really good point in regard to the Cola thing...

Cheers,

JD

[Hippo_Master]

I would say it was more along the lines of a slang term, not for something illegal, but for "Awesome", "Cool", "Killer" ... etc.

I've heard it used that way before.

But if he doesn't wanna change the name, then it's up to him.

[inino]

i dont think pimp your hookah is around anymore also. unless they go by a different name.

[mushrat]

He said in chat the other day you could call them "Chron" or maybe just CH, as long as the full name isn't spelled out.

That is correct. But no links to their site or such. I mayself tried their coals. eh...

[Anxiety]

He said in chat the other day you could call them "Chron" or maybe just CH, as long as the full name isn't spelled out.

That is correct. But no links to their site or such. I mayself tried their coals. eh...

lol +1 nothing natural about your room smelling like a chemical leakeage just happend....

[gaia.plateau]

I'm not a fan of Chron coals, but John is singularly the best hookah tobacco merchant on the face of the planet, in my experience. I understand why the site is banned, though I think that it's an extremely high cost to throw arguably the best online vendor (especially for international customers) out the window and into the dark side, when the reason for the ban is at best debatable.

[chromecarz00]

I'm not a fan of Chron coals, but John is singularly the best hookah tobacco merchant on the face of the planet, in my experience. I understand why the site is banned, though I think that it's an extremely high cost to throw arguably the best online vendor (especially for international customers) out the window and into the dark side, when the reason for the ban is at best debatable.

In essence what he has to do is register another domain name nad link it to his other domain, takes a total of MAYBE an hour of work...

[FactorE]

this is very informative but i think the paragraph for the newbie idea is great.

[chinamon]

I'm confused with the CH ban. The word chronic means something reoccurring, like what I'm sure John would like to be your business. The website itself makes no mention of anything illegal. So, just because he chose the word chronic, and it happens to be slang for something illegal, even though he make no reference to anything illegal, it gets the ban?

Not trying to stir up anything, just curious. Maybe I missed something that does make that reference... I mean, you don't say you can't mention the product Coke, just because it happens to be share the same name as a drug...

i feel the exact same way about it.
the word c*****c can be used as an adjective and as a slang noun. everyone just seems to assume it is the slang noun. its a shame.
ive already had a chat about this with mushrat regarding this a while back so im not getting in to this again.

[Guest DJ_HOSSEIX]

yah...i wish john would have picked a different name. He is a really down to earth and nice guy but i too dont think such a name is appropriate when it comes to a traditional pipe such has hookah because the first thing that pops into anyone's head is the narcotic reference. Other than that i trust him as a vendor.

[steeeeeeve]

i think being able to refer to them as CH is very fair, any links would come up in google the same way NHT real names do and that could damage the site and anyone who has a bit of sense can find out what CH is through the search without needing someone to spell it out

[mushrat]

I'm not a fan of Chron coals, but John is singularly the best hookah tobacco merchant on the face of the planet, in my experience. I understand why the site is banned, though I think that it's an extremely high cost to throw arguably the best online vendor (especially for international customers) out the window and into the dark side, when the reason for the ban is at best debatable.

In essence what he has to do is register another domain name nad link it to his other domain, takes a total of MAYBE an hour of work...

He'd have to change the name on the web site too...
which would take a tad longer to redesign a site.

[chromecarz00]

I'm not a fan of Chron coals, but John is singularly the best hookah tobacco merchant on the face of the planet, in my experience. I understand why the site is banned, though I think that it's an extremely high cost to throw arguably the best online vendor (especially for international customers) out the window and into the dark side, when the reason for the ban is at best debatable.

In essence what he has to do is register another domain name nad link it to his other domain, takes a total of MAYBE an hour of work...

He'd have to change the name on the web site too...
which would take a tad longer to redesign a site.

Very true...Totally missed that.
However I think it would be a good investment to do so as he would get increased traffic from this site and revenue...
but of ocurse thats his choice...

[Fezzik]

yah...i wish john would have picked a different name. He is a really down to earth and nice guy but i too dont think such a name is appropriate when it comes to a traditional pipe such has hookah because the first thing that pops into anyone's head is the narcotic reference. Other than that i trust him as a vendor.

That is my thing. I mean I would still buy from him but I don't want a t-shirt or anything. Good guy very informative but the name (while I get that it is attention grabbing) is kind of unfortunate. Though changing your name can be a hassle what with business licensing and all that. Though I guess that depends on whether he is incorporated or not. If so you should always register under a different name and use the opening as line. That way you can do all kinds of stuff. Easier.

[mushrat]

yah...i wish john would have picked a different name. He is a really down to earth and nice guy but i too dont think such a name is appropriate when it comes to a traditional pipe such has hookah because the first thing that pops into anyone's head is the narcotic reference. Other than that i trust him as a vendor.

That is my thing. I mean I would still buy from him but I don't want a t-shirt or anything. Good guy very informative but the name (while I get that it is attention grabbing) is kind of unfortunate. Though changing your name can be a hassle what with business licensing and all that. Though I guess that depends on whether he is incorporated or not. If so you should always register under a different name and use the opening as line. That way you can do all kinds of stuff. Easier.

heck, they dont have to change the name of the legal entity that is the company. Just build a web site with a different name use a different name for an account and they are done.