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Just tried out a new windcover I got free with an order from H-S. I never use them but know they're good for heat management and decided to give it a try. I got a weird taste, smelled the wind cover after I took it off and there was a similar smell coming from the windcover. I purged and kept smoking and the taste returned. Has anyone else ever had this problem? For those of you who use windcovers, which do you use and what would you reccomend that I do?
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My guess is that there was some kind of coating inside the windcover... try washing it, I guess? Like Coda proposed, the other possibility is that you simply burned the shisha.

As a rule of thumb, when you have full smoke, you shouldn't have a wind cover on.
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Hey was it one of the smaller sized ones?

I received one of those recently, and I had the same experience. It overpowered the taste of the Nakhla Mandarin, so it was pretty vile and over-powering.

I thought it was just a fluke so I threw it out. I havn't had this problem with the larger windcovers form the same company.
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Thanks for all of the replies, it definitely wasn't burnt shisha, it was a burnt metallice taste, there's no rubber or anything inside.

The taste was pretty vile, the perfect adjective and I couldn't have picked a better one. I have another one of these windcovers that I got over a good while back, I used it once when I was outside, back in the days when I still used quicklights but it didn't taste like I was smoking a windcover.

Perhaps this happened because the windcover was sort of touching the tangier's phunnel and couldn't reach to the bottom of the tray and rest on the tray. I dunno.

P.S. my smoke was okay but I wasn't getting huge clouds and wanted to avoid putting another coco on so I tried this first.
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QUOTE (An1m @ Nov 22 2008, 02:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thanks for all of the replies, it definitely wasn't burnt shisha, it was a burnt metallice taste, there's no rubber or anything inside.

The taste was pretty vile, the perfect adjective and I couldn't have picked a better one. I have another one of these windcovers that I got over a good while back, I used it once when I was outside, back in the days when I still used quicklights but it didn't taste like I was smoking a windcover.

Perhaps this happened because the windcover was sort of touching the tangier's phunnel and couldn't reach to the bottom of the tray and rest on the tray. I dunno.

P.S. my smoke was okay but I wasn't getting huge clouds and wanted to avoid putting another coco on so I tried this first.

wait was the qindcover not touching the ash tray just the bowl. thats not good... can it fit around your phunnel?
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QUOTE (drabin @ Nov 22 2008, 09:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
wait was the qindcover not touching the ash tray just the bowl. thats not good... can it fit around your phunnel?


Yeah it was touching the sides of the bowl and sort of balancing on it, it can't fit around the phunnel but if it could then it would be too short to touch the tray and would be touching the coals. The way I had it, there was a couple of centimeters of space in between the coals and the wind cover.
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my guess is since it was new It had a oily coating from manufacturing on it or something and once it heated up it started to burn that off a little. It probably wasnt much but just enough to affect the taste. Thats just a shot in the dark but i know that alot of metal manufacturing places will have oil they use to protect the metal for what ever reasons.
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i put mine onto my phunnel like that and its been fine.

it was either coating/residue on the cover OR did you notice lighter patches on you foil where the coals were? i figured out tonight that if your coals get too hot some times it can mess with the foil but not burn the shisha but it gives a bad taste (i think it makes the foil oxidize and cause the taste but not really sure why the taste comes)

-matt
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QUOTE (mattathayde @ Nov 23 2008, 12:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i put mine onto my phunnel like that and its been fine.

it was either coating/residue on the cover OR did you notice lighter patches on you foil where the coals were? i figured out tonight that if your coals get too hot some times it can mess with the foil but not burn the shisha but it gives a bad taste (i think it makes the foil oxidize and cause the taste but not really sure why the taste comes)

-matt

No, I didn't notice any lighter patches on the foil, I use Reynold's heavy duty and have never had any issues like that. Perhaps it was the whole "oil" thing


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If the windcover is resting on the bowl and not touching bottom is has no air around the bowl to disperse the heat. So the windcover is going to heat up drastically and produce the taste you are talking about.

Check the How to Section for different mods to fix this.
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QUOTE (Stuie @ Nov 24 2008, 04:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If the windcover is resting on the bowl and not touching bottom is has no air around the bowl to disperse the heat. So the windcover is going to heat up drastically and produce the taste you are talking about.

Check the How to Section for different mods to fix this.




Yeah I'd already watched a video on how to fix it before I started using it. I came home for turkey day and I have a bigger windcover here that doesn't give off any taste and I've been using aluminum foil in the meantime. Also my other windcover, the taste destroyer, has some sort of weird blue stuff on the inside of it, I tried washingit and it didn't work.


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i get the taste too, and the best way i can explain it is this...

you burn the top layer of shisha while the bottom layer remains unburned, the top layer cools and when you add the windcover you are reheating the top layer. when you reheat the top layer it produces smoke, but since its dry and crisp, it gives off a crappy taste.
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No I don't think that's it because I've tried it twice at the beginning of sessions and I got this weird nasty metallic taste. I am now convinced that it's that particular windcover. I'm going to try my other windcover next time I smoke but I kinda like aluminum foil windcovers for heat management because they're great for manipulating the amount of heat.
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QUOTE (wpw36 @ Nov 29 2008, 01:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
try washing it with soap and water or even baking soda and water to maybe get any oily coating off

 I have tried with soap and water but it didn't work

QUOTE (mattarios2 @ Nov 29 2008, 01:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
blue coating is usually plastic.

The coating does seem to be plastic-y



QUOTE (voski @ Nov 29 2008, 10:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I always throw my windcovers in the fire for a few minutes and let them heat up until they look ancient. give that a try


I don't really have access to an open fire here at my apartment @ school but next time I go home I'll try it. I'm also going to try the other suggestion about switching windcovers, I've done  a swtich between an aluminum foil windcover and the metal one and the metal windcover still killed the taste, I had my girlfriend join in the experiment with me and she agreed.


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I just smoked with my old windcover, which is slightly taller, and it's amazing. No crazy taste of metal/oily-plastic-y adhesive. I guess I should just toss this wondcover out.
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