An1m Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 Just tried out a new windcover I got free with an order from H-S. I never use them but know they're good for heat management and decided to give it a try. I got a weird taste, smelled the wind cover after I took it off and there was a similar smell coming from the windcover. I purged and kept smoking and the taste returned. Has anyone else ever had this problem? For those of you who use windcovers, which do you use and what would you reccomend that I do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimplexCoda Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 well wind covers increase the heat significantly. So you might have burned it. Also did you check that there wasnt a plastic thingy inside? I would say prolly there wasnt but it prolly got way too hot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaia.plateau Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 My guess is that there was some kind of coating inside the windcover... try washing it, I guess? Like Coda proposed, the other possibility is that you simply burned the shisha.As a rule of thumb, when you have full smoke, you shouldn't have a wind cover on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hippo_Master Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 Hey was it one of the smaller sized ones?I received one of those recently, and I had the same experience. It overpowered the taste of the Nakhla Mandarin, so it was pretty vile and over-powering.I thought it was just a fluke so I threw it out. I havn't had this problem with the larger windcovers form the same company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuie Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 happened to me once. Couldn't find a reason for it.Thew it in the Dish Washer, no problems since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
An1m Posted November 22, 2008 Author Share Posted November 22, 2008 Thanks for all of the replies, it definitely wasn't burnt shisha, it was a burnt metallice taste, there's no rubber or anything inside.The taste was pretty vile, the perfect adjective and I couldn't have picked a better one. I have another one of these windcovers that I got over a good while back, I used it once when I was outside, back in the days when I still used quicklights but it didn't taste like I was smoking a windcover. Perhaps this happened because the windcover was sort of touching the tangier's phunnel and couldn't reach to the bottom of the tray and rest on the tray. I dunno.P.S. my smoke was okay but I wasn't getting huge clouds and wanted to avoid putting another coco on so I tried this first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drabin Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 QUOTE (An1m @ Nov 22 2008, 02:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Thanks for all of the replies, it definitely wasn't burnt shisha, it was a burnt metallice taste, there's no rubber or anything inside.The taste was pretty vile, the perfect adjective and I couldn't have picked a better one. I have another one of these windcovers that I got over a good while back, I used it once when I was outside, back in the days when I still used quicklights but it didn't taste like I was smoking a windcover. Perhaps this happened because the windcover was sort of touching the tangier's phunnel and couldn't reach to the bottom of the tray and rest on the tray. I dunno.P.S. my smoke was okay but I wasn't getting huge clouds and wanted to avoid putting another coco on so I tried this first.wait was the qindcover not touching the ash tray just the bowl. thats not good... can it fit around your phunnel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
An1m Posted November 23, 2008 Author Share Posted November 23, 2008 QUOTE (drabin @ Nov 22 2008, 09:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>wait was the qindcover not touching the ash tray just the bowl. thats not good... can it fit around your phunnel?Yeah it was touching the sides of the bowl and sort of balancing on it, it can't fit around the phunnel but if it could then it would be too short to touch the tray and would be touching the coals. The way I had it, there was a couple of centimeters of space in between the coals and the wind cover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Veritas* Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 my guess is since it was new It had a oily coating from manufacturing on it or something and once it heated up it started to burn that off a little. It probably wasnt much but just enough to affect the taste. Thats just a shot in the dark but i know that alot of metal manufacturing places will have oil they use to protect the metal for what ever reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattathayde Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 i put mine onto my phunnel like that and its been fine.it was either coating/residue on the cover OR did you notice lighter patches on you foil where the coals were? i figured out tonight that if your coals get too hot some times it can mess with the foil but not burn the shisha but it gives a bad taste (i think it makes the foil oxidize and cause the taste but not really sure why the taste comes)-matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
An1m Posted November 24, 2008 Author Share Posted November 24, 2008 QUOTE (mattathayde @ Nov 23 2008, 12:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>i put mine onto my phunnel like that and its been fine.it was either coating/residue on the cover OR did you notice lighter patches on you foil where the coals were? i figured out tonight that if your coals get too hot some times it can mess with the foil but not burn the shisha but it gives a bad taste (i think it makes the foil oxidize and cause the taste but not really sure why the taste comes)-mattNo, I didn't notice any lighter patches on the foil, I use Reynold's heavy duty and have never had any issues like that. Perhaps it was the whole "oil" thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 i get this with heat shields too. i typically wont use them if they are sitting anywhere near the coal. i get a metallic taste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuie Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 If the windcover is resting on the bowl and not touching bottom is has no air around the bowl to disperse the heat. So the windcover is going to heat up drastically and produce the taste you are talking about. Check the How to Section for different mods to fix this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
An1m Posted November 28, 2008 Author Share Posted November 28, 2008 QUOTE (Stuie @ Nov 24 2008, 04:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>If the windcover is resting on the bowl and not touching bottom is has no air around the bowl to disperse the heat. So the windcover is going to heat up drastically and produce the taste you are talking about. Check the How to Section for different mods to fix this.Yeah I'd already watched a video on how to fix it before I started using it. I came home for turkey day and I have a bigger windcover here that doesn't give off any taste and I've been using aluminum foil in the meantime. Also my other windcover, the taste destroyer, has some sort of weird blue stuff on the inside of it, I tried washingit and it didn't work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canon Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 i get the taste too, and the best way i can explain it is this...you burn the top layer of shisha while the bottom layer remains unburned, the top layer cools and when you add the windcover you are reheating the top layer. when you reheat the top layer it produces smoke, but since its dry and crisp, it gives off a crappy taste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
An1m Posted November 29, 2008 Author Share Posted November 29, 2008 No I don't think that's it because I've tried it twice at the beginning of sessions and I got this weird nasty metallic taste. I am now convinced that it's that particular windcover. I'm going to try my other windcover next time I smoke but I kinda like aluminum foil windcovers for heat management because they're great for manipulating the amount of heat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wpw36 Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 try washing it with soap and water or even baking soda and water to maybe get any oily coating off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattarios2 Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 blue coating is usually plastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canon Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 try the windcover that you think is good first, smoke it for a few minutes then switch the windcover you think is bad, smoke that and see if the taste changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voski Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 I always throw my windcovers in the fire for a few minutes and let them heat up until they look ancient. give that a try Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
An1m Posted December 1, 2008 Author Share Posted December 1, 2008 QUOTE (wpw36 @ Nov 29 2008, 01:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>try washing it with soap and water or even baking soda and water to maybe get any oily coating off I have tried with soap and water but it didn't workQUOTE (mattarios2 @ Nov 29 2008, 01:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>blue coating is usually plastic.The coating does seem to be plastic-yQUOTE (voski @ Nov 29 2008, 10:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I always throw my windcovers in the fire for a few minutes and let them heat up until they look ancient. give that a tryI don't really have access to an open fire here at my apartment @ school but next time I go home I'll try it. I'm also going to try the other suggestion about switching windcovers, I've done a swtich between an aluminum foil windcover and the metal one and the metal windcover still killed the taste, I had my girlfriend join in the experiment with me and she agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
An1m Posted December 1, 2008 Author Share Posted December 1, 2008 I just smoked with my old windcover, which is slightly taller, and it's amazing. No crazy taste of metal/oily-plastic-y adhesive. I guess I should just toss this wondcover out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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