rigor Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 I'd like to see how long everyone's sessions are when they smoke.This is for folks who actually have taken the time, or will take the time, to pay attention to the clock pretty close, and post their actual results. If you are interested in seeing your REAL data and times compared to others that have done the same, this is for you.This is not for you folks who want to make claims that you can smoke the same bowl for 20 hours, with the same amount of flavor the entire time, using only 3 coals for the entire duration, all while your cat manages the heat for you perfectly, and your model/stripper girlfriend holds the hose for you. In short, this for people who want to be real, and keep it real.THIS IS NOT A CONTEST! THIS IS NOT ALL ABOUT "STRETCHING" YOUR DURATION TIME LONGER JUST TO LOOK COOLER THAN THE NEXT GUY!PLEASE specify the following in this order. It would be best just to copy and paste this format when you post.Shisha - BrandBowl - Type AND SizeFoil - Standard OR Heavy Duty AND How many layersHole Pattern - Give a general description as best you canCoals - Which coals AND number of coals used. Please specify if you use a different number to start the bowl, then add more/less to dial the bowl and heat management in correctly. ALSO, if your final "Duration" number includes 2nd (or more) rounds of coals, be sure to specify that here too.Duration - Number of hours rounded to the nearest 0.25 hours (Ex: 1.25 hours). Please also specify how many people are smoking the bowl, and how often it's being hit. How long with good smoke and flavor ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rigor Posted November 26, 2008 Author Share Posted November 26, 2008 Shisha - Al Fakher Bowl - Tangiers Phunnel - Small Foil - Heavy Duty - 1 layer Hole Pattern - Outer ring of about 12 holes, inner ring of about 8. No hole over the middle. Coals - Exoticas. I use 3 quarter pieces to get it started, then take it down to 2 pieces for a while. Add the 3rd back when needed, along with a wind cover here and there. We smoke quick enough that we don't really ever need a 2nd set of coals. Duration - Full smoke and flavor for average 1 hour, sometimes 1.25, with 2 people more or less hitting it nearly the entire time. I'd say the bowl rarely goes for more than about 45 seconds w/o one of us hitting it for a few puffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Click Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 (edited) Shisha - Al FakherBowl - Tangiers Phunnel - SmallFoil - One layer of HD Foil.Hole Pattern - 12 outer holes, 8 middle, 6 inner most ring, and one in the centerCoals - Coconaras. Use three to start. Take off the third once everything is heated up. I could just use a windcover but I'm lazy. Would use maybe 10-12 coals per bowl of AF in the medium phunnel.Duration - Around 2.5 till the flavor starts to mellow out, but still good smoke. Well like last night it was just 2 people including myself with constant smoking between the two. Edited November 26, 2008 by click Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gothookahs.com Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 Shisha - Potion Mint Chocolate ChipBowl - Regular size Egyptian BowlFoil - One Heavy Sheet of Foil.Hole Pattern - Form a circle of small holes starting from the outside of the bowl into the middle of the bowl.Coals - Exotica Natural, about 3 small pieces to begin and 2 small piece thereafter. Duration - About an hour and a half. Every twenty minutes I take off the bowl and shake it up and blow a lot of air through the bottom of the bowl (to preserve the flavor).ChuckgotHookahs.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilarseny Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 Shisha - AF MintBowl - Med. Phunel, NO modFoil - 2 layers HDHole Pattern - 8-10 innermost ring: within 1/4" of nub. 30ish outermost ring: within 1/8" of edge. 10-15 holes scattered between the two. Coals - In the dorm I'll start with 2 40mm 3K QLs, then as they die out try to keep approximately 2 half-pieces on at all times for the rest of the session. With this method I'll usually use about 3 whole disks for the first hour, then 2-3 for each hour after that. Duration - Honestly this outlasts me longer than I outlast it. I've smoked this for 4 hours before, no problem, with two active hoses + 6-8 people. As long as you don't let it cherry then it'll go on forever. The smoke dies before the flavor easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaia.plateau Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 These are my two most common types of sessions.Shisha - Nahkla layer over the holes and AF on top. Either caramel or melon Nahkla for either coffee or fruit AF.Bowl - Bambino Mya bowl, narrow and deepFoil - Heavy duty, single layerHole Pattern - Sort of like a nuclear symbol, holes in the centre with 3 equal "spokes"Coals - Coco Naras, 1 at a time, 4 coalsWindcover Use - FrequentlyDuration - Just under 4 hoursShisha - TangiersBowl - Medium phunnelFoil - Heavy duty, single layerHole Pattern - 3 rings, no hole in centreCoals - Coco Naras, 2-1/2 at a timeWindcover Use - InfrequentlyDuration - 12-16 hours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ambuletzd2h Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 Shisha - mostly skyzz or AFBowl - standard normal clayFoil - regularHole Pattern - i make line the whole bowl in linesCoals - just 3k 33mm first one i start it on one side second one next to it and the third on the other so after the 3rd its kinda in a triangle formation also with windcoverDuration - this ranges anywhere from 1.5 hours to 2 hours a few times though its gone to about 2.25-2.5 hours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inino Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 if i use a the phunnel with layalina and 1 layer of HD foil i can get about 3 hours out of it, then the smoke loses flavor but still smokes.if i use my little glass bowl with fusion and i layer of HD foil i can get about 1 hour out of it then its burntif i use any other bowl with layalina and 1 layer of HD foil i can get about 2 hours tops out of it.i use natural bulk coal on a KM pharonie with ice/water in the base.holes pattern is a 24 hole pattern, 12 outside then 8 then 4 in the middleno wind cover cuz i dont have one, but i used to use them before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldog_916 Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 Small phunnel of Blackberry mix (50% pharaohs blackberry, 50% starbuzz blackberry)Stargate Coals (just trying to run through them ASAP)22" Egyptian No NameHole pattern is pin holes all over the foil, including in the middleSimple thin aluminum foil8 hours, full flavor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayneuki Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 (edited) Shisha - HookahHookahBowl - Regular EgyptianFoil - Heavy Duity one layerHole Pattern - Buncha holes everywhereCoals - Golden Quick Lights. Usually about 4 or 5 Duration - 4 - 5 hours, 1 to 2 people smoking, full flavor till the last 30 min (then it's usually the other person still hitting)Shisha - RommanBowl - Standard MYAFoil - Heavy Duity one layerHole Pattern - Buncha holes everywhereCoals - Golden Quick Lights. Usually 3 or 4Duration - 3 - 4 hours, 1 usually (perhaps a hit stolen by a couple of other people), Full flavor the whole timeShisha - Al FakherBowl - Medium PhunnelFoil - Heavy Duity one layerHole Pattern - About three rows of tooth-pick sized holes around the hole. None in the center.Coals - CocoNaras, about 4 or 6. Two coals to start on bowl, two coals for every coal change. (In other words, 4 cocos would be like 2 sets of coals)Duration - 4 - 5 hours or more (Depends on if I save the shisha afterwards.), 1 person (haven't had anyone else try AF with me), Full flavor the whole time. Edited November 26, 2008 by Rayneuki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Boss Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 Longest:Shisha - Tangiers CocoaBowl - Medium PhunneFoil - Generic HD foil, one layerHole Pattern - The "all over" pattern that I got from Snoopy's vids.Coals - Started out with 4 coconaras, went to 3 about a half hour in, then went back to 4 when they started to burn down. Did the same thing for my second set of coalsDuration - about 3 hours, I was the only one SmokingShortest: Shisha - Al FakherBowl - Pyrex bowl that I got from Sahara SmokeFoil - Standard OR Heavy Duty AND How many layersHole Pattern - your generic all over patterCoals - Two coconarasDuration - 1 hour, I was the only one smoking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zachslusser Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 My Smoke from yesterdayShisha - Laylina BlueberryBowl - Small Tangiers PhunnelFoil - Standard Meijer Brand, with 1 layerHole Pattern - 2 rings 18 on the outer and 14 on the inner and 1 hole in the middle. all holes made by push pin except center that was made by paper clipCoals - Used 3 cocos to get it going then after like 30 mins backed it down to 2 the waited like 10 more put 3 back on and smoked it out. Then like 45 mins later threw 2 more on. Duration - With the first 3 it lasted like 1hr - 1.15 hr. Then when i threw the other 2 on i smoke for like 20 mins but then had to leave so i put the coals out. The bowl i saved and am going to smoke it today. I have a hard time smoking for long durations though... it makes me kinda sick. i like shorter hour or so long smokes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modisess Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 Shisha - Al Fakher Tobacco Bowl - Tangier's Medium Phunnel Bowl Foil - Reynold's Heavy Duty Wrap Hole Pattern - 2 rings on the outer edges, no holes in the middle. Coals - 3 Coconaras on the medium, 2 just won't do it. Duration - The 3 cocos would last me around an hour and fifteen minutes on average. 45 minutes of full volume smoke and another 30 minutes with decent but more diminished clouds, but flavor wise it will still go strong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
staygone Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 Tangiers, 2 cocos, small phunnel, and holes everywhere on the HD foil lasts me an hour and 15. Rehashing is slim to nill.-QM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rigor Posted November 26, 2008 Author Share Posted November 26, 2008 QUOTE (gaia.plateau @ Nov 25 2008, 07:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>These are my two most common types of sessions.Shisha - Nahkla layer over the holes and AF on top. Either caramel or melon Nahkla for either coffee or fruit AF.Bowl - Bambino Mya bowl, narrow and deepFoil - Heavy duty, single layerHole Pattern - Sort of like a nuclear symbol, holes in the centre with 3 equal "spokes"Coals - Coco Naras, 1 at a time, 4 coalsWindcover Use - FrequentlyDuration - Just under 4 hoursShisha - TangiersBowl - Medium phunnelFoil - Heavy duty, single layerHole Pattern - 3 rings, no hole in centreCoals - Coco Naras, 2-1/2 at a timeWindcover Use - InfrequentlyDuration - 12-16 hoursAlmost 4 hours out of a Mya bowl ? 12+ hours out of a medium phunnel ? Are you taking a hit like once every 10 mins ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rigor Posted November 26, 2008 Author Share Posted November 26, 2008 QUOTE (Bulldog_916 @ Nov 25 2008, 09:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Small phunnel of Blackberry mix (50% pharaohs blackberry, 50% starbuzz blackberry)Stargate Coals (just trying to run through them ASAP)22" Egyptian No NameHole pattern is pin holes all over the foil, including in the middleSimple thin aluminum foil8 hours, full flavorAppreciate your feedback.However... Starbuzz giving you full flavor for 8 hours ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaia.plateau Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 (edited) QUOTE (rigor @ Nov 26 2008, 04:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Almost 4 hours out of a Mya bowl ? 12+ hours out of a medium phunnel ? Are you taking a hit like once every 10 mins ?A Mya Bambino bowl. In both types of session I'm taking full lung capacity hits about 4-6 times a minute, and I have freakishly huge lungs, according to all my SCUBA partners.QUOTE (rigor @ Nov 26 2008, 04:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Appreciate your feedback.However... Starbuzz giving you full flavor for 8 hours ? sarcastic.gifStarbuzz doesn't give me full flavour for 30 minutes. Edited November 26, 2008 by gaia.plateau Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rigor Posted November 26, 2008 Author Share Posted November 26, 2008 I am going to pick up one of those Bambino bowls and replicate what you're saying. I do actually hope you are true to these statements, cause that would rock! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no longer welcome Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 Shisha -AF, always chaning flavors but most common are ESK, Two Apples, Apple, MintBowl - Egyptian ClayFoil - Pharaohs Hookah FoilHole Pattern - Poke holes all the way from the foil though to the 5 holes in th bowl, then random pin sized holesCoals - 3 CH NaturalWindcover Use - Never, well except to put over the coals when lighting over a side grill flame, this speeds up lighting times.Duration - 45minutes before I need to add 1-2 more coals and go for another 30 minutes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaia.plateau Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 QUOTE (rigor @ Nov 26 2008, 04:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I am going to pick up one of those Bambino bowls and replicate what you're saying. I do actually hope you are true to these statements, cause that would rock!Of course it's true ~ I've done this over three hundred times.Like I said, thin layer of nakhla on the bottom for improved air and heat circulation, critical for getting thick clouds of smoke the hole time, with AF on top of it, filled nearly to the top of the bowl with heavy duty foil.This is the hole pattern. The reason you use this pattern is to lessen the room-temp air getting into the bowl, which dilutes flavour and density of smoke. You can actually do one better by poking each 'spoke' just before you put the coal on it... but personally I find the hassle of this to outweigh the improved smoke.1 Coco Nara or similar coal on each "spoke", followed by a fourth in the centre. Admittedly for the fourth one you're going to get some reduction in flavour, but it's still going to be tasty, full-bodied smoke. If you're more concerned about saving coal than you are about saving shisha, stop at 3 Coals and just start a new bowl.If it actually seems far-fetched to you, I shudder to think about how much shisha you've been wasting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rigor Posted November 27, 2008 Author Share Posted November 27, 2008 I personally don't think I've been wasting any shisha, because when I unfoil my bowls after my average 1.25 hour session, the shisha is dark and burnt all the way through to the bottom. That is why I created this thread, because of all the claims I had seen thrown around about 3-4 hour sessions (non-Tangiers). Since all my shisha was being used up, and I didn't seem to be doing anything out of the ordinary, I felt these claims were a bit strecthed - and I still do personally, until I see it first hand, whether it's myself or someone else managing the bowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustang_steve Posted November 27, 2008 Share Posted November 27, 2008 Shisha: Rommon (1:45), AF (1:45) Starbuzz (2:00)bowl: generic ceramic bowl (approx 10-15g)coals: Golden quick-lights (two used, one at first, then the second when the first one is starting to weaken significantly)screen: generic metal screenwindcover: yesduration: typically 1:45...for some reason I am getting 2 hours out of a bowl of Starbuzz Pomegranite.Basically, I just keep smoking until I have no smoke or very little smoke while the coal is still producing adequate heat. If the used Shisha doesn't just fall out of the bowl when tipped, it hasn't been smoked long enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustang_steve Posted November 27, 2008 Share Posted November 27, 2008 (edited) Shoot, I can't find an edit button (LOL, looked like I waited too long, that's why)....oh well...to add info on the duration number....this is pretty much just me, constantly hitting on it. I find counting group sessions a bit harder, since I have one friend that bogarts the hose for about 15 minutes or until I chuck an unlit coal at him, then another that will pretty much barely inhales (smokes hookah only, no cigarettes or cigars, so that may be why).Either way, a solo session to me is the best way to gauge it. Perhaps it's luck on my part, but with constant windscreen usage I get a really good burn from a single coal, then just add a coal when that one is wearing down. Edited November 27, 2008 by mustang_steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldog_916 Posted November 27, 2008 Share Posted November 27, 2008 QUOTE (rigor @ Nov 26 2008, 02:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (Bulldog_916 @ Nov 25 2008, 09:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Small phunnel of Blackberry mix (50% pharaohs blackberry, 50% starbuzz blackberry)Stargate Coals (just trying to run through them ASAP)22" Egyptian No NameHole pattern is pin holes all over the foil, including in the middleSimple thin aluminum foil8 hours, full flavorAppreciate your feedback.However... Starbuzz giving you full flavor for 8 hours ? I didnt say it was the Starbuzz part giving me the flavor for 8 hours. The Starbuzz taste lasts about 2 hours and the rest of the time it just purely rounds out the Pharaohs flavor. I love it, it's one of my favorite tobacco mixes. Tastes like a sweeter version of Layalina Raspberry, a little darker, but fully delicious. Most of the juiciness of the mix came from the Starbuzz, I'm thinking it might have thickened up the Pharaohs. So it maintains the flavor of the Pharaohs while making it a little sweeter. I dunno. All I know is that it's great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustang_steve Posted November 27, 2008 Share Posted November 27, 2008 I just used the same setup with some Al Waha "After Nine" (chocolate/mint...also the first time I tried this brand and flavor)At about 1:30 the flavor died, by 1:45 it was pretty much done as I was pretty much getting no smoke at all. I have to say, this is a very odd flavor though since the mint hits first, then for the second half you taste the chocolate....and I couldn't use the windcover for the first 20 minutes or it would get harsh.Since I forgot to mention the size of the Golden quick-lights I used, it's the 33mm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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