Hookahdude32 The Return Of Neal.

[zeppyrkr]

he probably runs an underground hookah stealing organization. i heard on the news robbers were following casino jackpot winners home and robbing them of their winnings. he probably does the same thing when your orders come in, and thats why no two things he sells are alike.

what good does a post like this do? please lets stay factual, as mentioned before theres no need to bash and slander, well unless you talking about factual things. hate me all you want, im friends with neal and i wasn't around when the shit hit the fan, but non the less i think hes a good guy and im not denying he did stupid things lets just stay factual?

I think you may be missing the point. The point is that his actions weren't all "back then". He continues to create fake accounts to get back into this forum. He continues to write unsupportable lies about ME and the forum as a whoel on his forum, and he continues to not deliver to his customers as well as abuse them on the phone, etc. Have you just been ignoring the occasional post here or have you never read his forum? If he'd just stay away he'd be fogotten, but since HE continues to come back here to stir things up and since HE has printed some rather libelous things about me in his forum, i think YOU'D better do some checking before opening your mouth and calling out others on points of "fact".

im totally agreeing with you? if you look at what i quoted, it was stupid and pointless and does nothing for anyone, i asked kindly to try keeping things factual. mush i look up to you and i think your really a good guy but i think you have a personal grudge, along with others and want to convert as many people as possible to hate him. i feel a ban coming and it shouldn't be like this, i really just want peace and if you dont like neal then i think everyone here can agree we wont speak of him again. im sorry ...

[mushrat]

he probably runs an underground hookah stealing organization. i heard on the news robbers were following casino jackpot winners home and robbing them of their winnings. he probably does the same thing when your orders come in, and thats why no two things he sells are alike.

what good does a post like this do? please lets stay factual, as mentioned before theres no need to bash and slander, well unless you talking about factual things. hate me all you want, im friends with neal and i wasn't around when the shit hit the fan, but non the less i think hes a good guy and im not denying he did stupid things lets just stay factual?

I think you may be missing the point. The point is that his actions weren't all "back then". He continues to create fake accounts to get back into this forum. He continues to write unsupportable lies about ME and the forum as a whoel on his forum, and he continues to not deliver to his customers as well as abuse them on the phone, etc. Have you just been ignoring the occasional post here or have you never read his forum? If he'd just stay away he'd be fogotten, but since HE continues to come back here to stir things up and since HE has printed some rather libelous things about me in his forum, i think YOU'D better do some checking before opening your mouth and calling out others on points of "fact".

im totally agreeing with you? if you look at what i quoted, it was stupid and pointless and does nothing for anyone, i asked kindly to try keeping things factual. mush i look up to you and i think your really a good guy but i think you have a personal grudge, along with others and want to convert as many people as possible to hate him. i feel a ban coming and it shouldn't be like this, i really just want peace and if you dont like neal then i think everyone here can agree we wont speak of him again. im sorry ...

nope..you are allowed your opinion, no ban.

What we are doing is making sure people don't get ripped off if we can help it. A grudge..perhaps, considering he used to call me to yell at me on a regular basis, plus the fact that while he keeps claiming he's not trying to get back in here, he keeps trying to sneak back. if yo like him that cool, some people here do. But too many of us remember him from before and we STILL get people posting about not getting their stuff.

[wilarseny]

nope..you are allowed your opinion, no ban.

What we are doing is making sure people don't get ripped off if we can help it. A grudge..perhaps, considering he used to call me to yell at me on a regular basis, plus the fact that while he keeps claiming he's not trying to get back in here, he keeps trying to sneak back. if yo like him that cool, some people here do. But too many of us remember him from before and we STILL get people posting about not getting their stuff.

Yea I wish I could say this doesn't happen from his site anymore. Happened to me personally about a month back. You'll get great service for about three, four orders, then something'll fuck up and no matter what you tell him nothing will change about it. If you're really, really lucky he'll refund the order.

[Giant Ninja Robot]

fair enough Mush, I can abstain from reading threads with the best of them

Like I said there is nothing personal in any of my comments, I just don't like the idea of having to turn a blind eye.

I love this place and I want to see it make a positive impact as much as possible, as opposed to potentially turning people off to hookah and the hookah culture.

Much love ya'll just a frustrated Ninja here. I'ma keep it to this thread as opposed to spreading my frustration to the rest of the forum, chat etc.

Guest mod responsibilities trump personal feelings afterall Going into Dad mode in 3...2...1....

[shisha fan]

I'm getting very close to my breaking point. The forum is great, unless there is someone we are suppose to "hate".

Unless this shit stops I'm considering scaling back my participation in the forum I love so much quite a bit, no offense to anyone in particular.

Eye for an eye doesn't work in my book.

And the sad thing is, I really love this place, as I'm sure is evident by my constant contributions and participation. Why should I have my place of peace and rest invaded by social bullshit and hatred found all over the damn place in my everyday life?

Very very very fed up.

Sorry to anyone who disagrees but my opinion is just as valid as every other, albeit on the other side of the coin than most.

More than angry I'm just sad and tired. I've had too much social drama in my life to willingly place myself back into the type of crap I've left behind me.

i absolutely agree with this, just let it be. stop making threads about neal and he won`t get the attention he craves, simple as that.

Guest mod responsibilities trump personal feelings afterall

don`t take it too seriously man, its just an internet forum after all

[willbb123]

I dont wanna piss anyone off but he screwed me too, and I am really sick of hearing about him...

He is a banned vendor, we cant talk about him, so why is this post still open? He keeps making accounts and we keep talking about him, what would happen if he were just to get banned and there was no thread about it? Would he stop making accounts? Probably not but at least we wouldn't be giving him publicity

Lets close this thread, never mention him again and move on.

[erufiku]

I dont wanna piss anyone off but he screwed me too, and I am really sick of hearing about him...

He is a banned vendor, we cant talk about him, so why is this post still open? He keeps making accounts and we keep talking about him, what would happen if he were just to get banned and there was no thread about it? Would he stop making accounts? Probably not but at least we wouldn't be giving him publicity

Lets close this thread, never mention him again and move on.

My thoughts exactly... It would be better to just allow the (nonexistent) reviews to speak for themselves (I'm assuming that they were deleted because he's a banned vendor?). Stop giving the guy publicity = no more drama, and he'll get bored without that.

[willbb123]

I know I wanted this thread closed but something happened that I never expected. I was at work and got a voicemail when I went to break I checked it and it was Neal. He quoted part of my post and said that was a very busy time, and that he wants to try and make it right. He said that he it trying to rebuild his company's name.
I have to say the guy has balls... Reading a topic about him not being allowed on the site then calling a pissed off member trying to make it right.
I'm not sure what I am going to do. I just thought it was very interesting and makes it seem that he is trying to get old customers back.

[mushrat]

I know I wanted this thread closed but something happened that I never expected. I was at work and got a voicemail when I went to break I checked it and it was Neal. He quoted part of my post and said that was a very busy time, and that he wants to try and make it right. He said that he it trying to rebuild his company's name.
I have to say the guy has balls... Reading a topic about him not being allowed on the site then calling a pissed off member trying to make it right.
I'm not sure what I am going to do. I just thought it was very interesting and makes it seem that he is trying to get old customers back.

Funny you only hear from him when you publicly call him out for what he is.

Anyways. I think we'll let this one slide down into the history books. And wait for the next one.