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Hey guys,

Hope everyone had a happy thanksgiving.

I returned to my on campus apartment today to see a pink note on my door stating that I failed something of my room inspection, i figured because they found my candle. I walk in to my room and notice right away something is missing, I turn around to see on my door the note says my HookaD has been confiscated. Which was sitting next to my 4 bowls and shit load of tobacco. That was all left there. They just took my stem and base. Thats like writing some one an underage at a party and then leaving the liquor and keg.

Anyways this is the only rule I found that could have been broken. "Possession of drug paraphernalia including but not limited to
pipes, bongs, grinders and other devices."

Im going to talk to the building director tomorrow about this, honestly I will take it home this weekend if need be. Due to the anti smoking laws now on campus I cant smoke anymore.

Anything else that you guys can suggest, I work with some media relations here so I need to keep a low profile.

-Mike


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Honestly just explain to them how it is not drug paraphernalia and that its intended use is to smoke tobacco out of the pipe which is indicated by all the tobacco you have. Anyway after explaining all of that you should be able to get your hookah back.
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Federal law states somewhere that anything can be paraphinalia, but it is only considered that once the owner has used it in that manor.....in other words, if you have never used your hookah for nht, they have no right to take it and you have every right to have it in your dorm(as long as it is not specifically listed)...

ACLU is the way to go
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I think the general rule is no smoking devices allowed, period. The fact that they classified it as drug paraphernalia is just mainstream societies misunderstanding of hookah smoking. Good luck on getting your hookah back though.
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Same damn thing happened to me.
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Is the no smoking law within the building or does it pertain to campus grounds period? Because I can see that most campuses do not allow smoking in the buildings but its cool to do it outside.....and why wouldn't you hide your shit. With the case of most of these room inspections you could just throw a towel over it because they technically do not have the right (unless stated so in the housing contract) to actually search. They can only look at the surface of things.
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QUOTE (Amosb72 @ Nov 30 2008, 06:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
if u get it back invite them to go smoke it with u

so they can see what it's all about

Honestly I would but, smoking is banned on all campus grounds which I might add, I have respected that rule.

QUOTE (indian_villager @ Nov 30 2008, 09:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Is the no smoking law within the building or does it pertain to campus grounds period? Because I can see that most campuses do not allow smoking in the buildings but its cool to do it outside.....and why wouldn't you hide your shit. With the case of most of these room inspections you could just throw a towel over it because they technically do not have the right (unless stated so in the housing contract) to actually search. They can only look at the surface of things.


Pretty much my thoughts exactly, it used to be cool do to it outside I did. I never thought to hide it because I have never been given a hard time about it, the one time the cops came I explained to them what it was and they walked away.


QUOTE (MWlax00 @ Nov 30 2008, 09:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
what college?


Kutztown

-shrugs- Im going to talk to the building director tomorrow and see what they say.
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QUOTE (mjdx88 @ Nov 30 2008, 10:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Amosb72 @ Nov 30 2008, 06:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
if u get it back invite them to go smoke it with u

so they can see what it's all about

Honestly I would but, smoking is banned on all campus grounds which I might add, I have respected that rule.

QUOTE (indian_villager @ Nov 30 2008, 09:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Is the no smoking law within the building or does it pertain to campus grounds period? Because I can see that most campuses do not allow smoking in the buildings but its cool to do it outside.....and why wouldn't you hide your shit. With the case of most of these room inspections you could just throw a towel over it because they technically do not have the right (unless stated so in the housing contract) to actually search. They can only look at the surface of things.


Pretty much my thoughts exactly, it used to be cool do to it outside I did. I never thought to hide it because I have never been given a hard time about it, the one time the cops came I explained to them what it was and they walked away.


QUOTE (MWlax00 @ Nov 30 2008, 09:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
what college?


Kutztown

-shrugs- Im going to talk to the building director tomorrow and see what they say.


You shouldn't have any trouble getting it back, it's not drug paraphrenalia, it's a shisha. Explain to them that they screwed up, ask for it back then tell them they're ignoramouses and ask for an apology. Bring a copy of the housing contract with you for good measure and show them the fine print.


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This happened to me this semester too. It was taken away during an inspection just like yours only it was put away and all they found was the hose. They threatened to search my whole room if I didn't hand it over and that would not have ended well. I've since gotten it back but what really burns me up is that I'm being pinned with a first offense drug violation because the school has hookahs listed under paraphenelia(sp?) Now I have to pay a $250 fine and go to a drug education class. Schools really need to get a better understanding of what they are dealing with, especialy as hookahs become more popular.
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QUOTE (Elky @ Dec 1 2008, 12:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This happened to me this semester too. It was taken away during an inspection just like yours only it was put away and all they found was the hose. They threatened to search my whole room if I didn't hand it over and that would not have ended well. I've since gotten it back but what really burns me up is that I'm being pinned with a first offense drug violation because the school has hookahs listed under paraphenelia(sp?) Now I have to pay a $250 fine and go to a drug education class. Schools really need to get a better understanding of what they are dealing with, especialy as hookahs become more popular.

That's ridiculous dude. I would most certainly fight that.


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QUOTE (An1m @ Dec 1 2008, 12:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Elky @ Dec 1 2008, 12:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This happened to me this semester too. It was taken away during an inspection just like yours only it was put away and all they found was the hose. They threatened to search my whole room if I didn't hand it over and that would not have ended well. I've since gotten it back but what really burns me up is that I'm being pinned with a first offense drug violation because the school has hookahs listed under paraphenelia(sp?) Now I have to pay a $250 fine and go to a drug education class. Schools really need to get a better understanding of what they are dealing with, especialy as hookahs become more popular.

That's ridiculous dude. I would most certainly fight that.


In the process my friend. I got it back and I have a few people on my side. I already had one serious conversation with the powers that be but to no avail. We'll see what happens as the semester comes to a close though. Supposedly they are implementing a new rule.
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QUOTE (Elky @ Dec 1 2008, 12:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (An1m @ Dec 1 2008, 12:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Elky @ Dec 1 2008, 12:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This happened to me this semester too. It was taken away during an inspection just like yours only it was put away and all they found was the hose. They threatened to search my whole room if I didn't hand it over and that would not have ended well. I've since gotten it back but what really burns me up is that I'm being pinned with a first offense drug violation because the school has hookahs listed under paraphenelia(sp?) Now I have to pay a $250 fine and go to a drug education class. Schools really need to get a better understanding of what they are dealing with, especialy as hookahs become more popular.

That's ridiculous dude. I would most certainly fight that.


In the process my friend. I got it back and I have a few people on my side. I already had one serious conversation with the powers that be but to no avail. We'll see what happens as the semester comes to a close though. Supposedly they are implementing a new rule.




ACLU
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Ask them if it is illegal to own a pipe, cigar, or cigarette? I did that today and my BD was pretty much like WTF?! and I said since its not illegal to own any of these there was no reason to take my hookah, since I was not smoking it on campus or in my building. All he could do was say he was going to return it to me when I was able to pick it up. It should have been in his office or for him to go pick it up right then and there but I settled for coming back on Wed.

Best of luck fighting to get your hookah back Elky

Mike

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