mjdx88 Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 Hey guys,Hope everyone had a happy thanksgiving.I returned to my on campus apartment today to see a pink note on my door stating that I failed something of my room inspection, i figured because they found my candle. I walk in to my room and notice right away something is missing, I turn around to see on my door the note says my HookaD has been confiscated. Which was sitting next to my 4 bowls and shit load of tobacco. That was all left there. They just took my stem and base. Thats like writing some one an underage at a party and then leaving the liquor and keg.Anyways this is the only rule I found that could have been broken. "Possession of drug paraphernalia including but not limited topipes, bongs, grinders and other devices."Im going to talk to the building director tomorrow about this, honestly I will take it home this weekend if need be. Due to the anti smoking laws now on campus I cant smoke anymore. Anything else that you guys can suggest, I work with some media relations here so I need to keep a low profile.-Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drizzt495 Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 aw that sucks....alot of colleges seem to be doing that now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srawas89 Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 Honestly just explain to them how it is not drug paraphernalia and that its intended use is to smoke tobacco out of the pipe which is indicated by all the tobacco you have. Anyway after explaining all of that you should be able to get your hookah back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r1v3th3ad Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 Federal law states somewhere that anything can be paraphinalia, but it is only considered that once the owner has used it in that manor.....in other words, if you have never used your hookah for nht, they have no right to take it and you have every right to have it in your dorm(as long as it is not specifically listed)...ACLU is the way to go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doubon Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 I think the general rule is no smoking devices allowed, period. The fact that they classified it as drug paraphernalia is just mainstream societies misunderstanding of hookah smoking. Good luck on getting your hookah back though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r1v3th3ad Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 cant tell a person they cant have a pack of cigarettes in their pocket in a non-smoking environment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattarios2 Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 good point rivet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amosb72 Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 if u get it back invite them to go smoke it with uso they can see what it's all about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speed.trials Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 Same damn thing happened to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
engineonmute Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 dang id be so pissed if something like that happenedhope you can get it back ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indian_villager Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 Is the no smoking law within the building or does it pertain to campus grounds period? Because I can see that most campuses do not allow smoking in the buildings but its cool to do it outside.....and why wouldn't you hide your shit. With the case of most of these room inspections you could just throw a towel over it because they technically do not have the right (unless stated so in the housing contract) to actually search. They can only look at the surface of things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bye bye now have fun Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 im going to say odds are you arent getting it back. here the RAs ether throw away the alcohol after they give it to the school or drink it and not report it. also they turn drugs over to the cops. so either the cops have it or its tossed out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWlax00 Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 what college? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codename067 Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 That blows. I guess I should be happy I still live with my parents..no rent, food always there, and I always have the garage to myself [and friends when they come over]. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjdx88 Posted December 1, 2008 Author Share Posted December 1, 2008 QUOTE (Amosb72 @ Nov 30 2008, 06:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>if u get it back invite them to go smoke it with uso they can see what it's all aboutHonestly I would but, smoking is banned on all campus grounds which I might add, I have respected that rule.QUOTE (indian_villager @ Nov 30 2008, 09:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Is the no smoking law within the building or does it pertain to campus grounds period? Because I can see that most campuses do not allow smoking in the buildings but its cool to do it outside.....and why wouldn't you hide your shit. With the case of most of these room inspections you could just throw a towel over it because they technically do not have the right (unless stated so in the housing contract) to actually search. They can only look at the surface of things.Pretty much my thoughts exactly, it used to be cool do to it outside I did. I never thought to hide it because I have never been given a hard time about it, the one time the cops came I explained to them what it was and they walked away.QUOTE (MWlax00 @ Nov 30 2008, 09:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>what college?Kutztown-shrugs- Im going to talk to the building director tomorrow and see what they say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
An1m Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 QUOTE (mjdx88 @ Nov 30 2008, 10:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (Amosb72 @ Nov 30 2008, 06:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>if u get it back invite them to go smoke it with uso they can see what it's all aboutHonestly I would but, smoking is banned on all campus grounds which I might add, I have respected that rule.QUOTE (indian_villager @ Nov 30 2008, 09:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Is the no smoking law within the building or does it pertain to campus grounds period? Because I can see that most campuses do not allow smoking in the buildings but its cool to do it outside.....and why wouldn't you hide your shit. With the case of most of these room inspections you could just throw a towel over it because they technically do not have the right (unless stated so in the housing contract) to actually search. They can only look at the surface of things.Pretty much my thoughts exactly, it used to be cool do to it outside I did. I never thought to hide it because I have never been given a hard time about it, the one time the cops came I explained to them what it was and they walked away.QUOTE (MWlax00 @ Nov 30 2008, 09:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>what college?Kutztown-shrugs- Im going to talk to the building director tomorrow and see what they say. You shouldn't have any trouble getting it back, it's not drug paraphrenalia, it's a shisha. Explain to them that they screwed up, ask for it back then tell them they're ignoramouses and ask for an apology. Bring a copy of the housing contract with you for good measure and show them the fine print. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inino Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 i would be pretty upset if someone carried it that didnt know what it was. coulda gotten a broken base or bent stem if they stored it wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gothookahs.com Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 Mike,Sorry to hear your hookah was taken away. Good luck getting it back.Chuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elky Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 This happened to me this semester too. It was taken away during an inspection just like yours only it was put away and all they found was the hose. They threatened to search my whole room if I didn't hand it over and that would not have ended well. I've since gotten it back but what really burns me up is that I'm being pinned with a first offense drug violation because the school has hookahs listed under paraphenelia(sp?) Now I have to pay a $250 fine and go to a drug education class. Schools really need to get a better understanding of what they are dealing with, especialy as hookahs become more popular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
An1m Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 QUOTE (Elky @ Dec 1 2008, 12:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>This happened to me this semester too. It was taken away during an inspection just like yours only it was put away and all they found was the hose. They threatened to search my whole room if I didn't hand it over and that would not have ended well. I've since gotten it back but what really burns me up is that I'm being pinned with a first offense drug violation because the school has hookahs listed under paraphenelia(sp?) Now I have to pay a $250 fine and go to a drug education class. Schools really need to get a better understanding of what they are dealing with, especialy as hookahs become more popular.That's ridiculous dude. I would most certainly fight that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elky Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 QUOTE (An1m @ Dec 1 2008, 12:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (Elky @ Dec 1 2008, 12:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>This happened to me this semester too. It was taken away during an inspection just like yours only it was put away and all they found was the hose. They threatened to search my whole room if I didn't hand it over and that would not have ended well. I've since gotten it back but what really burns me up is that I'm being pinned with a first offense drug violation because the school has hookahs listed under paraphenelia(sp?) Now I have to pay a $250 fine and go to a drug education class. Schools really need to get a better understanding of what they are dealing with, especialy as hookahs become more popular.That's ridiculous dude. I would most certainly fight that.In the process my friend. I got it back and I have a few people on my side. I already had one serious conversation with the powers that be but to no avail. We'll see what happens as the semester comes to a close though. Supposedly they are implementing a new rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r1v3th3ad Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 QUOTE (Elky @ Dec 1 2008, 12:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (An1m @ Dec 1 2008, 12:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (Elky @ Dec 1 2008, 12:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>This happened to me this semester too. It was taken away during an inspection just like yours only it was put away and all they found was the hose. They threatened to search my whole room if I didn't hand it over and that would not have ended well. I've since gotten it back but what really burns me up is that I'm being pinned with a first offense drug violation because the school has hookahs listed under paraphenelia(sp?) Now I have to pay a $250 fine and go to a drug education class. Schools really need to get a better understanding of what they are dealing with, especialy as hookahs become more popular.That's ridiculous dude. I would most certainly fight that.In the process my friend. I got it back and I have a few people on my side. I already had one serious conversation with the powers that be but to no avail. We'll see what happens as the semester comes to a close though. Supposedly they are implementing a new rule.ACLU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canon Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 they are only implementing a new rule because they probably wont get their way this time. its bullshit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjdx88 Posted December 2, 2008 Author Share Posted December 2, 2008 Ask them if it is illegal to own a pipe, cigar, or cigarette? I did that today and my BD was pretty much like WTF?! and I said since its not illegal to own any of these there was no reason to take my hookah, since I was not smoking it on campus or in my building. All he could do was say he was going to return it to me when I was able to pick it up. It should have been in his office or for him to go pick it up right then and there but I settled for coming back on Wed. Best of luck fighting to get your hookah back ElkyMike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r1v3th3ad Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 glad we have one happy ending Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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