Tangiers Question

[MWlax00]

I am interested in trying tangiers. I wanted to try the clove flavor.
the only place i can smoke is outside
so my question is, how can you acclimate outside?
is it as simple as setting it outside?
its about 20 deg out, sometimes colder, with wind. but its all i got.

[NarghileNights]

you can acclimate it outside and it should be fine.

the main thing is that you want to let it sit out for about a half hour (AFTER it is fully acclimated) in whatever climate you are going to be smoking in.

[inino]

you can acclimate outside. i would try and put it somewhere not windy though.

[GreatPigHookah]

You can acclimate outside, but I don't think you need to. I think Sonthert explained it once : the relative humidity is not whats important, it's the true humidity, or actually the dewpoint, that's the important part. At least that's what I remember him saying...which makes sense. Unless your house has a different atmospheric pressure than ouside, you should be fine.

I'd just acclimate indoors and take it outside to smoke.

[Hojo]

I have some Tangiers Pineapple outside right now acclimating for later. Before, I would acclimate it inside, and when I brought it outside it would go crazy on me. Little flavor, slightly harsh, etc.

To keep the environmental nasties (bugs and whatnot) out of it, I put the open container on the grill and closed it. Hopefully this will work, because I can't smoke inside and I don't think I can go a whole winter without Tangiers.

[Bulldog_916]

You dont really have to worry about bugs and stuff getting into the shisha. Nicotine is a poison and they are repelled by it. I've never seen a fly land within 2 feet of my shisha when it was acclimating.

[An1m]

You can acclimate outside, but I don't think you need to. I think Sonthert explained it once : the relative humidity is not whats important, it's the true humidity, or actually the dewpoint, that's the important part. At least that's what I remember him saying...which makes sense. Unless your house has a different atmospheric pressure than ouside, you should be fine.

I'd just acclimate indoors and take it outside to smoke.

When it's 20 degrees outside I would certainly hope that he has enough control over the temperature, and humidity in his house so that there is a huge difference between the conditions in-doors and out-doors. Also, since when was shisha acclimation detemrine dby atmospheric pressure? I thought it was humidity.

[Bulldog_916]

You can acclimate outside, but I don't think you need to. I think Sonthert explained it once : the relative humidity is not whats important, it's the true humidity, or actually the dewpoint, that's the important part. At least that's what I remember him saying...which makes sense. Unless your house has a different atmospheric pressure than ouside, you should be fine.

I'd just acclimate indoors and take it outside to smoke.

When it's 20 degrees outside I would certainly hope that he has enough control over the temperature, and humidity in his house so that there is a huge difference between the conditions in-doors and out-doors. Also, since when was shisha acclimation detemrine dby atmospheric pressure? I thought it was humidity.

It's absolute humidity, not relative humidity. Your house and outside are going to be the same absolute humidity, if not the same relative humidity.

[An1m]

You can acclimate outside, but I don't think you need to. I think Sonthert explained it once : the relative humidity is not whats important, it's the true humidity, or actually the dewpoint, that's the important part. At least that's what I remember him saying...which makes sense. Unless your house has a different atmospheric pressure than ouside, you should be fine.

I'd just acclimate indoors and take it outside to smoke.

When it's 20 degrees outside I would certainly hope that he has enough control over the temperature, and humidity in his house so that there is a huge difference between the conditions in-doors and out-doors. Also, since when was shisha acclimation detemrine dby atmospheric pressure? I thought it was humidity.

It's absolute humidity, not relative humidity. Your house and outside are going to be the same absolute humidity, if not the same relative humidity.

Ah thanks for pointing that out, I suppose it shouldn't matter then, but why do Tangiers smoke sessions sometimes fail when people acclimate inside, then move outside? Edited December 2, 2008 by An1m

[Bulldog_916]

It generally shouldnt be smoking off between inside and outside but if it is, just acclimate it in the garage. Then it'll all be good.

[GreatPigHookah]

Ah thanks for pointing that out, I suppose it shouldn't matter then, but why do Tangiers smoke sessions sometimes fail when people acclimate inside, then move outside?

I think lot's of times it's simply that the conditions are so much different you have a harder time with heat management. If it's 40F outside and 70F inside, even with a windcover, heat management can be significantly different, especially if there is air movement, which there usually is outside to a much greater extent.

[Dom]

one tip for acclimating is to acclimate it outside when it is really humid, like just after a rain storm or something. then, close it up in a relatively air-tight container and in a few days when it has dried up considerably, take it out and smoke it without acclimating. it won't encounter humidity shock since you are smoking humid tobacco in a dry environment. (don't keep it in an air-tight container for too long or else the tobacco may never smoke well again.)

it's a common misconseption that the tobacco needs to be at the same humidity as the environment no matter what. that is not entirely true. it will smoke great if they ARE at the same humidity level, and will smoke like crap if the tobacco's humidity is less than the environment, but it will smoke like a DREAM if the tobacco's humidity is MORE than that of the environment.

for example, if you acclimiate inside with the AC on, it's really dry, and if you then take that tobacco outside, chances are it's more humid outside than inside, and the tobacco will smoke like crap.

one easy way to avoid all of this is to just store your tobacco in your smoking area in containers that are NOT air tight. in other words, just have it acclimating constantly. this will not dry out the tobacco, since Eric takes all the water moisture out of the tobacco during production of Tangiers. the "juices" will not evaporate out, so you are good to go.

now, since in humid areas of the world, the humidity level could change dramatically over a course of a few hours, it may be a good idea to just keep your containers open at all times. in fact, at Eric's lounge, Oddessy, his containers of tobacco are never fully closed, thus they are always acclimating.

[Balthazar]

one easy way to avoid all of this is to just store your tobacco in your smoking area in containers that are NOT air tight.

Seriously? I'm using the lock&lock-containers, which are supposed to be 100% air and liquid tight, and it has never caused any problems. I acclimate the tobacco until it smells right, put it inside a container, and then acclimate for about 30 minutes before every session.

[MWlax00]

thanks for the replies guys
i live in a college dorm apartment
would it work if i acclimate inside for the majority, and then movie it outside for about an hour before smoking
then bring it back in and continue to acclimate till my next session?

[Dom]

one easy way to avoid all of this is to just store your tobacco in your smoking area in containers that are NOT air tight.

Seriously? I'm using the lock&lock-containers, which are supposed to be 100% air and liquid tight, and it has never caused any problems. I acclimate the tobacco until it smells right, put it inside a container, and then acclimate for about 30 minutes before every session.

yeah, you can avoid that 30-minute acclimation if your containers are not air tight. in fact, i leave my tangiers containers open a little for this very reason.

[Scoop]

yeah, all my containers are not air tight (they just dont cap properly) and its always acclimating. i never leave flavors sitting around more than a month or two before i finish them anyway