Shisha With Phunnel Taste Like Ash !

[persol]

i packed my phunnel with AF white grape and with heavy duty foil, 2 AF QL charcoals
i poked 2 circle with no hole in the center , i sat 2 charcoals in the edge and taste like ash.
idk why it test like ash, just 2 coals and poked only 2 circles and the holes didnt to much wide and the holes didnt close to the center.
any advice?! Edited December 7, 2008 by persol

[*Veritas*]

Did you let your coals light fully and ash a bit before placing them on the bowl??

[Zinite]

Make sure the coals are fully lit (and then some) before using them.

Also, give your hookah a good cleaning with either dish soap (make sure you wash it out really well with hot water) or baking soda and lemon juice.

[r1v3th3ad]

check your hose too...from what I've seen around here, 9/10 times ash taste is rusted hose(from people washing non-washables)


What size phunnel is it?
It could be the heat...I generally use 3 halves of 33mm qls for my medium and 4 halves for my large...easy maintenance...too little heat and you are a halve away, too much and you're not wasting too much taking it off.

edit: I mentioned heat because you need it just right to be getting flavor

[Zinite]

check your hose too...from what I've seen around here, 9/10 times ash taste is rusted hose(from people washing non-washables)


What size phunnel is it?
It could be the heat...I generally use 3 halves of 33mm qls for my medium and 4 halves for my large...easy maintenance...too little heat and you are a halve away, too much and you're not wasting too much taking it off.

edit: I mentioned heat because you need it just right to be getting flavor

Good advice about the hose.

If you have an air compressor or canned air, blow your hose out. If brown shit comes out, it's rust. A bad hose can make the smoke taste like ash regardless of how well you set everything else up.

[DJ_HOSSEIX]

what are you using to poke your holes?

[persol]

i'm using razan hose , i'm sure my hookah is clean ,the coal was fully lit and i'm using toothpick to poke my holes
thank you all for you advices and i think that the problem with the heat management but i dont know what it is the best way to put the coals and what is the best way to poke the phunnel

[DJ_HOSSEIX]

from what i know if you over pack AF you will get a nasty taste, plastic like almost so maybe you can check how much you have packed.

As far as rings go try 3 circles with no hole in the middle. If you are using a medium phunnel put 3 QL in a triangular/V form.

Play around with packing and heat, usually AF is very easy to get going well.

[Zinite]

i'm using razan hose , i'm sure my hookah is clean ,the coal was fully lit and i'm using toothpick to poke my holes
thank you all for you advices and i think that the problem with the heat management but i dont know what it is the best way to put the coals and what is the best way to poke the phunnel

Start out with less coals than you need, and build up until the smoke is good. For example, if it's a medium phunnel, light 4 halves of the quick light. Start with putting 2 halves on the bowl. Wait a couple minutes (maybe try a windcover), and if the smoke isn't dense enough, add another coal. Repeat til the smoke is perfect. If it tastes ashy, remove a coal and try again.

[DJ_HOSSEIX]

also mix your shisha before you place it into your phunnel.

[persol]

thank you all, i will try what you suggested