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what tobacco do you make?


Epic Smoke


Formally Zona I believe.


yup

this would not be synthetic, but natural....and yes of course you could do it yourself for much cheaper, but what in life isn't that way?
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I'd have to know what it was.
I'm a bit paranoid on that mark. It bothers me to NOT know...


Same can be said about this modern tobacco we smoke. Do we really know what we're smoking? "Natural flovers" is so vague it's rediculous.

-QM



At least they aren't listing the ingredients in Pig Latin like Soex.
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Instead of a powder/buzz sprinkle...why don't you take your "all natural mystery buzz stuff" and just add it to your shisha you have now, and create a new line of tobacco?

I wouldn't add anything to my shisha, but would probably be more comfortable with it already in the shisha (example: tangiers with caffine).

I believe that you would still have to put on your packaging what ingredients are in it, as to avoid some kind of shisha law suit with the better business bureau.
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I hate to be a drag, but "buzz enhancer" shisha receipes are already ready all over the internet at various NHT (but legal) herbal places. Not that I want to down anybody trying to make an honest buck, but hey...... I wouldn't buy it because I can already buy it. At any of the various internet shops I just mentioned.

'Rani
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Would I buy it? The short answer is no. The long answer is no friggin way, ever.
I'd consider trying it if I knew what was in it. Sort of like a novelty thing... But Nakhla and Tangiers cover the buzz base pretty nicely for me.
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you all have written about tricks and what nots to give more of a buzz to your bowls, why do you want me to remind you all what I and you all know..
it is mixture of all natural ingrediants that are completely legal that will kick the nicotine buzz up tremendously if applicated correctly.
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i think tobacco has to be approved by the gov. maybe i would try it if it were proven legally to be safe. no offense saying i wouldnt trust you or something, but the fact is i dont know you, and its always hard to just trust someone you dont know, no matter how honest they may be.
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Why not ask a few members of the forum to sign a NDA (Non Disclosure Agreement) and see if they will test it out for you? I MIGHT be interested in buying something like that, but as others have said, need to know what is in it. I know you're tryin to make a buck, and to be honest, I'm kinda lazy and if something is easily available in a ready made pack, I'll probly buy it as opposed to trying to set it all up in the right amounts etc by myself. Just a thought and an idea for you.

-Z
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should inform people of whats in it...don't know if someone is allergic to something in it that is not listed

...other things are herbal side effects and folklore...Mugwort: Prophetic dreaming, used a certain way in Middle Ages for fertility...recently found to cause miscarriage, yet work a little as an aphrodisiac.

I don't put things in my body unless I know what they are
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There's an easy way to solve the proprietary issue and not get copied by other competors- a patent. That way you could tell us what is in it without losing so much business. Honestly, I've done a lot of dumb shit, but never without knowing at least half of the consequences. And I would NOT smoke anything without knowing what is in it.
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<rant>
all natural is a huge load of bullshit. nightshade is 100% all natural and will kill you. lysergeic acid is 100% natural so is chlorine gas and C10H15N. noone of which are safe. on the other hand artificial vitamins are the EXACT same thing as natural. all these yuppies can take the all natural fad and shove it up their ass because im sick and fucking tired of it.
</rant> Edited by GNUWorldOrder
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QUOTE (GNUWorldOrder @ Dec 12 2008, 08:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
<rant>
all natural is a huge load of bullshit. nightshade is 100% all natural and will kill you. lysergeic acid is 100% natural so is chlorine gas and C10H15N. noone of which are safe. on the other hand artificial vitamins are the EXACT same thing as natural. all these yuppies can take the all natural fad and shove it up their ass because im sick and fucking tired of it.
</rant>


Well said my friend
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i do agree with you guys that only safe shit should be in stuff we consume but you do realize that you prolly consume a product everyday that has some genetic mutation or chemical thats know to cause cancer and stuff?

you guys are so scared of consuming weird shit take a google shot at rbST and bpa
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QUOTE (Mirus @ Dec 12 2008, 09:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
There's an easy way to solve the proprietary issue and not get copied by other competors- a patent. That way you could tell us what is in it without losing so much business. Honestly, I've done a lot of dumb shit, but never without knowing at least half of the consequences. And I would NOT smoke anything without knowing what is in it.


Hey buddy, this tobacco you smoke, af/tangier/fantasia/nakhla/etc., you have any idea what's in it? We have no idea about the effect on us when we smoke modern tobacco, none.

Not pointing out just Mirus but alot of people in this thread. You act as if you know what you're consuming when doing hookah. You have no idea whether smoking glycerin is good for you. Same goes for the ingredients in "natural flavoring". We don't even know what's in that now do we? Only nack I have is when people give others a hard time when they do exactly what they're are against.

-QM Edited by QuiltedMaple
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Tobacco, glycerin, molasses, flavoring and coal. sometimes caffeine too, thats what i smoke everytime i smoke a bowl of tangiers. you have to look at it this way, there is a lot of NHT out there and some of it will kill you, some of it will fuck you up. then comes someone who asks if people will put something into the shisha they smoke daily, weekly or monthly and wont tell them what it is people are not going to want to do it.
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