wilarseny Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 QUOTE (Victim026 @ Dec 13 2008, 05:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I'm gonna hopefully put an order together from elsewhere after christmas when money is a little more plentiful. Nothing else I've gotten from my local vendor has been bad, just the mint, even the grape never went south over here.Yea Grape's been good from mine too, oddly enough. I bought a kilo of it for 25$ the other day, that stuffs been on the shelf for years.. probably better than what you can find now. Regarding mint, the 250 I got maybe a month ago was good. I have another coming early next week, if it gets here before I leave for home for the holidays. If I notice the same problem I'll let you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victim026 Posted December 14, 2008 Author Share Posted December 14, 2008 Yeah if anyone else has problems lemme know, I'd love to give AF a call and see what's up if I can get a few people on board supporting the mint issue. I'd love to just up and drop AF right now, but I get it CHEAP locally, so it's hard to pass up all the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fedaykin Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 Just recently bought some AF mint, a 250g tub. Not sure on the dates but it was great for me. Didn't have any problems with it. Got some more in the mail though, see if any problems with it when it gets here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*HOT&SMOKING* Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 I hope the batches here are alright, because AF is one of the better brands that I can get here...Don't have much of a choice here...but I found one place that sells AF....-H&S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mix_tape Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 I bought an 08 batch of Mint and it smokes fine. Its the cinnamon I bought that tastes like pepper and stings the throat and its usually its great. So sad and a waste of money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattarios2 Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 I take back everything I said in this thread regarding mint, just had a bowl of mint/watermelon, shit man, I used a drop of mint maybe a gram or two tops and the rest watermelon, and it was not smokeable, no lie, both of my friends chocked and wouldn't hit it, and it is/was one of our favorites.This sucksGoodbye to AF, Goodbye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickReppinThe909 Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 i think all this is bullshit to be honest, i smoke primarily nakhla and AF and have never had a bad bowl of AF i think this is just a way for people to quit getting dissed for smoking shitbuzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victim026 Posted December 15, 2008 Author Share Posted December 15, 2008 QUOTE (NickReppinThe909 @ Dec 14 2008, 11:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>i think all this is bullshit to be honest, i smoke primarily nakhla and AF and have never had a bad bowl of AF i think this is just a way for people to quit getting dissed for smoking shitbuzzJust because it hasn't happened to you yet, doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Drive your happy ass down here to San Antonio and I'll make your throat burn like a fuckin wildfire with the tub of mint I've got right now.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattarios2 Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 yah man how could you think it is bullshit? I love AF mint, I KNOW WHAT IT TASTES LIKE, and holy ish, made my throat burn, not on the inhale though, the exhale was just brutal. Well there goes 250g of mint, imma test the other 250 tomorrow. I didn't even wanna smoke after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 QUOTE (Victim026 @ Dec 15 2008, 12:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (NickReppinThe909 @ Dec 14 2008, 11:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>i think all this is bullshit to be honest, i smoke primarily nakhla and AF and have never had a bad bowl of AF i think this is just a way for people to quit getting dissed for smoking shitbuzzJust because it hasn't happened to you yet, doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Drive your happy ass down here to San Antonio and I'll make your throat burn like a fuckin wildfire with the tub of mint I've got right now....rofl. i never really liked most AF flavors. this just solidifies my reason to not buy that stuff anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victim026 Posted December 15, 2008 Author Share Posted December 15, 2008 QUOTE (mattarios2 @ Dec 15 2008, 12:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>yah man how could you think it is bullshit? I love AF mint, I KNOW WHAT IT TASTES LIKE, and holy ish, made my throat burn, not on the inhale though, the exhale was just brutal. Well there goes 250g of mint, imma test the other 250 tomorrow. I didn't even wanna smoke after that.Same thing here, inhale is fine... the exhale is hell... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balthazar Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 QUOTE (mattarios2 @ Dec 15 2008, 08:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>yah man how could you think it is bullshit? I love AF mint, I KNOW WHAT IT TASTES LIKE, and holy ish, made my throat burn, not on the inhale though, the exhale was just brutal. Well there goes 250g of mint, imma test the other 250 tomorrow. I didn't even wanna smoke after that.Agreed. AF was my second favorite brand, always had their Mint, Watermelon and Esk. Apple as some of my staple smokes. Esk. Apple is still good so I'll keep ordering that, but other than that I think I'll be smoking Tangiers and Nakhla (no "Shitbuzz," mattarios). I don't think people should jump to conclusions if they get only one or two bad boxes of shisha, but this does not seem to be a isolated incident. Kinda like grape, although it doesn't seem like there will ever be a consensus on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldog_916 Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 Looks like maybe Layalina is going to start getting some good business now? I think Layalina needs some love after being kicked and beaten like it has been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
staygone Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 I got no more to say about AF, sucky that the mint went to shit too.-QM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattarios2 Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 yes it def does suck QM was one of my go to flavors, and I feel esk. apple lost a lot of flavor compared to previous batches I had sampled. And bulldog you are right, looks like I will be using layalina for flavors that Af makes and fusion doesn't make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatPigHookah Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 QUOTE (Balthazar @ Dec 15 2008, 04:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I don't think people should jump to conclusions if they get only one or two bad boxes of shisha, but this does not seem to be a isolated incident.3 or 4 people on a message board seems pretty isolated to me. It won't stop me from buying it until I hear of a hell of a lot more people having trouble. Maybe order from a different supplier next time. It could be a "bad" batch, but this stuff is handled by several different organizations after it is produced - shippers, importers, retailers - no telling what conditions it goes through. Sometimes shit happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattarios2 Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 true but, people have issues w/ one flavor, then some have issues with others, and then some with others, etc etc, i am all set with rolling the dice for a good bag of shisha, every batch should be perfect, like tangiers, nakhla, fusion, and layalina. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victim026 Posted December 15, 2008 Author Share Posted December 15, 2008 QUOTE (mattarios2 @ Dec 15 2008, 10:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>true but, people have issues w/ one flavor, then some have issues with others, and then some with others, etc etc, i am all set with rolling the dice for a good bag of shisha, every batch should be perfect, like tangiers, nakhla, fusion, and layalina.This is exactly my issue with this, there should never be any "bad batches". It's called product testing prior to packaging and almost everyone involved in food that i've heard of does it and this should really be no different. And on top of that if the packaging they are currently using isn't keeping the product well enough then maybe they should rethink how they do things. It's odd though that every other company seems to lack these issues and packaging is fairly similar from brand to brand, which means the problem probably lies somewhere within the factory and could probably easily be changed/stopped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicalHookah Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 I just ordered AF Mint and I swear to god if its a bad batch or whatever I might cry... its my fav.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickReppinThe909 Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 just went to 3 diff local shops and bought 5 50g's of AF mint all with different production dates ranging from dec 06 to jun 09 to test out and see for myself. we need codename to chime in on this since he is the AF mint king Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatPigHookah Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 QUOTE (NickReppinThe909 @ Dec 15 2008, 03:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>just went to 3 diff local shops and bought 5 50g's of AF mint all with different production dates ranging from dec 06 to jun 09 to test out and see for myself. we need codename to chime in on this since he is the AF mint kingYou traveled to the future?!?!?!? Damn. That's dedication, my friend. So...you didn't happen to notice who won the Superbowl did you? I gotta call my bookie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 QUOTE (GreatPigHookah @ Dec 15 2008, 03:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (NickReppinThe909 @ Dec 15 2008, 03:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>just went to 3 diff local shops and bought 5 50g's of AF mint all with different production dates ranging from dec 06 to jun 09 to test out and see for myself. we need codename to chime in on this since he is the AF mint kingYou traveled to the future?!?!?!? Damn. That's dedication, my friend. So...you didn't happen to notice who won the Superbowl did you? I gotta call my bookie.rofl. sick burn!to keep it on topic, why bother buying al fakher anyway...tangiers mint > af mint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickReppinThe909 Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 haha naw i got a new laptop and im still getting used to the smaller keys it should be 08 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rani Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 AF vanilla has been along time favorite and it's sucking these days too. The last three tubs I got (all with different dates) were all pretty lousy. It could be they've changed their flavorings to try and save money in a bad economy. A common manufacturing goal, but damn...... Because of it, it might be a while before I order any more AF. My Fusion is still consistently good so looks like I may go that way for a while.'Rani Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voski Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 I had a box of peach that smelled like complete shit. I acclimated it for like 4-5 days and it smells normal now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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