Af Vs Tangiers

[clickhea]

are the AF flavors more pronounced than the tangiers flavors?

i seem to get alot better flavor with AF than i do tangiers, which sucks cause i love the buzz tangiers gives me.

[hookah hippie]

Tangiers has great flavor when it is properly prepared

[mattarios2]

AF has been having quality issues according to others, I have had no probs, but anyways,

AF has great flavor but is more of a candy/sweet flavor, tangiers is just more of a realistic flavor when you set it up properly as others have stated.

You may notice better taste from AF but this is only because AF is easy to smoke, tangiers takes practice to set up properly.

You can't really say which has more flavor ... it is all based on preference, but they both offer incredible flavor that you will taste and not say, what flavor is this it tastes like nothing.

[zeppyrkr]

trust me tangiers > af , not saying af is horrible but ive always got more and better/accurate flavors with tangiers.

[clickhea]

well this sucks, i have it smoking perfectly except for the fact i dont taste much, i seem to always have this problem with tangiers no matter what i try

[SimplexCoda]

well this sucks, i have it smoking perfectly except for the fact i dont taste much, i seem to always have this problem with tangiers no matter what i try

Im going to agree that tagniers is better at least for me. i havent had an AF flavor that i could taste. But as much as tangiers is better i still have sessions where its smoking perfectly but still not too much flavor, then i wont change anything the next session it will smoke just the same only with 1000 times more flavor.

[clickhea]

sigh :|

[clickhea]

what makes more of a difference packing, or holes?

[SimplexCoda]

what makes more of a difference packing, or holes?

I dunno i use a glass screen so i would say packing seeing as how its just not possible for my hole to change and i still notice a difference in my sessions.

[clickhea]

interesting, im packing it exactly as snoopy shows, and iam using a skewer to poke holes all the way through.. just not getting flavor


2 cocoanaras


but ive had this problem with tangiers for ages.. it smokes perfect, just no flavor

[SimplexCoda]

interesting, im packing it exactly as snoopy shows, and iam using a skewer to poke holes all the way through.. just not getting flavor


2 cocoanaras


but ive had this problem with tangiers for ages.. it smokes perfect, just no flavor

well as much as i would love to believe that tangiers is perfect, its not for everyone, maybe thats all there is to it.

[clickhea]

iam trying to force my self to taste it lol

[indian_villager]

How long did you acclimate?

[Scoop]

strange, tangiers is easily the best tasting highest quality tobacco you can buy in the us. cant even compare it to AF on its worst day. not sure why you dont get flavor though, thats unfortunate.

[clickhea]

its pretty much acclimating 24/7

[clickhea]

simp, anyway u can show me ur packing method?

[SimplexCoda]

simp, anyway u can show me ur packing method?

i can try, i only have a built in webcam right now but i can try it out.

[mattarios2]

That's the thing though, requires too much work for me. I packed a million diff. techniques and sometimes it would be awesome and sometimes it would suck, would always acclimate for hours on end before smoking, used low heat, big holes poked all the way through, packed it correctly, also tried small holes, less shisha, a shit ton of shisha, tons of heat, a tiny bit of heat, I tried everything and sometimes went awesome and sometimes sucked, I am not down to deal with that. Shisha smoking is for relaxation not frustration, just was too variable for me and my friends.

I personally think it depends on where you live and in New England where I'm from, the weather changes every 10 minutes.

[mattarios2]

oh and also (sorry for another post, was past two min. so I couldn't add to my previous post)

I lately have been preferring nakhla, flavors are just as money, buzz is just as good, it is less than half the price of tangiers, and there is no fuss with it.

Not knocking tangiers at all because I once loved it and it is an amazing shisha, just not for me apparently as others have already stated.

[Stuie]

packing it as tight as humanly possible in a phunnel always produces the best taste in my opinion but I usually do Snoopy's packing method cause I don't smoke that long.

Sounds like an acclimation of humidity shock issue. Still not sure if you can recover from humidity shock.

Do you store in air tight containers? that could be another issue.

[Hippo_Master]

No.

[clickhea]

pack it as tight as possible?

[SmokinMoose]

Well if you are using alot of ICE in your water and your Ice Chamber you wont taste the flavour as much.

Try using lukewarm water.

[inino]

if by acclimating 24/7 you mean that the tobacco is sitting un covered all day then it could be drying out which would make flavor loss.

[ColibriDon]

When I first saw the title of this thread, I thought it was a joke topic.

As far as packing Tangiers, I just use a technique that I got off of one of the videos here. Basically, all I do is put a pinch in and push it around the phunnel. That may be hard to visualize but you put some tobacco in and then push it to a section of the ring around the center and then take another pinch and push it against the previous pinch. I just keep doing this until the bowl is full then put some in the top of whatever areas are loose.

For the hole pattern I do a circle on the outside, followed by a smaller circle in the center and then four holes in a square pattern in between the two circles. I think I got this whole pattern (Minus the four square-patterned holes) from rigor.

That seems to work out pretty well every time. The only variable is my heat management but I use three cocos in a triangle pattern on the outside of the bowl. Those coals are right on the edge throughout the first 30-45 minutes of the session then, when they're small, I push them more into the center and start another coal. I keep doing this and the session lasts as long as I do.

Sorry for the pseudo-thread jack but I hope this helps a little.

Back on topic! Tangiers has a very strong flavor that is extremely consistent. With AF's dice roll quality, I think it's a better bet to go with Tangiers if you can get it going but it's not for everyone--indicated by the amount of people who can't get it done well. hehe

Good luck!