Fluffy Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 whats the big deal with this stuff why dose everyon like this brand so much.personally i think its just average anyone with me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeppyrkr Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 I think its a very solid easy smoke and i like the prices i can get on it, always have watermelon and mint in my stash, sorry i couldn't side with ya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColibriDon Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 Based on some of the more recent threads here, I would say it isn't overrated. I think it's a good smoke with decent value for money. Mint is a flavor I keep on hand at all times; great mixer and even better straight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryno Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 I like it for the fact its not really too expensive, gives off great clouds, is easy to get to smoke right and usually has good flavor. I dont think its a shisha sent from the gods, but its good. People tend to overhype anything that is a good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilarseny Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 Out of curiosity, what would you say is better than AF? For something to be average there should be approx. the same amount of shisha brands above and below it, and having had many, many terrible brands of shisha--and most of the good ones as well--I'd put AF in the top 15-20%, easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted December 22, 2008 Author Share Posted December 22, 2008 better than af tangiers, starbuzz, and fusion. but i said it was average so some brands i would say its on par with are hookah hookah, al-waha, and nakhla al those are cheaper have just as amnt falvors al waha has probably any flavor al fakeher has hh/f has god nows how many and nakhla has so mant varients and flavors its heavenmy bief with af is its $ 4's more than brands that are just as good and the selection is decnt but it aint huge like hh/f or nakcloud size is nice but i dont get why people say omg that cloud is huge so that makes this better. i would expect a new smoker to be awed, wowed and fascinated but for people who have been doing this longer i would expect them to care much more for other aspects besides white and fluffy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted December 22, 2008 Author Share Posted December 22, 2008 QUOTE (Fluffy @ Dec 21 2008, 08:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>better than af tangiers, starbuzz, and fusion. but i said it was average so some brands i would say its on par with are hookah hookah, al-waha, and nakhla al those are cheaper have just as amnt falvors al waha has probably any flavor al fakeher has hh/f has god nows how many and nakhla has so mant varients and flavors its heavenmy bief with af is its $ 4's more than brands that are just as good and the selection is decnt but it aint huge like hh/f or nakcloud size is nice but i dont get why people say omg that cloud is huge so that makes this better. i would expect a new smoker to be awed, wowed and fascinated but for people who have been doing this longer i would expect them to care much more for other aspects besides white and fluffy this made little sence i ment to sayal waha has just as many flavors as afhh/f has more flavors and alot of great unigue flavors no one else hasnakhla has many lines and many flavors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted December 22, 2008 Author Share Posted December 22, 2008 (edited) sorry guys i aint making sense i can barley read my own shit im really tired and ive beand drinking and smoking tangiers pretty heavy for the last 3 hours like 250 mililiters of jagermiester and 2 bowls of tangiers so sdie with me for being trashed Edited December 22, 2008 by Fluffy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilarseny Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 QUOTE (Fluffy @ Dec 21 2008, 09:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>better than af tangiers, starbuzz, and fusion. but i said it was average so some brands i would say its on par with are hookah hookah, al-waha, and nakhla al those are cheaper have just as amnt falvors al waha has probably any flavor al fakeher has hh/f has god nows how many and nakhla has so mant varients and flavors its heavenmy bief with af is its $ 4's more than brands that are just as good and the selection is decnt but it aint huge like hh/f or nakcloud size is nice but i dont get why people say omg that cloud is huge so that makes this better. i would expect a new smoker to be awed, wowed and fascinated but for people who have been doing this longer i would expect them to care much more for other aspects besides white and fluffyI dunno. Starbuzz I think is pretty shitty, and extremely overpriced. Tangiers and Fusion I'll agree are probably better shishas than AF, though both are significantly more expensive, and I'll agree that nakhla is probably as good as it. But seriously, just because HH or al waha have as many flavors as AF, does not mean they are equal shishas. HH is shit across the board. Al Waha has a couple good flavors but definitely does not produce smoke as well as AF or Nakhla. Not to mention both of these brands lose their flavor in half the time it takes for AF to become bland. And seriously, do you actually think Al Waha or HH taste remotely good in comparison to Tangiers or Fusion? Anyhow, just for a price example, you can get a 3 pack of AF 250g for 25$ at MNH, with discount it's less than that: for ~7$/250g, Al Fakher is certainly reasonably priced. I've seen a lot of places sell Nakhla for that price or more. My point is, it's a pretty cheap tobacco that smokes well, has a decent selection of flavors and a strong, if not accurate, taste. In terms of value I think it's one of the best out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vin13 Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 While some if not most of AF's flavors are pretty average, their Mint and Watermelon are bar none the best in the industry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hippo_Master Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 Yup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeppyrkr Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 QUOTE (vin13 @ Dec 21 2008, 09:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>While some if not most of AF's flavors are pretty average, their Mint and Watermelon are bar none the best in the industry.couldn't have said it better, good taste man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted December 22, 2008 Author Share Posted December 22, 2008 i threw up i fell better now hookah hookah is great you need to be pro with heat manegment though or you incinerate ital waha is verry good 2 some flavors do die but some mellow out only a little evry shish dose this, actully maybe al waha was a bad examplenakhla is what shisha should be tis all around greataf mint and watermelon are very good i wont lie vanilla is also great those are adove average but af also has quite a few flovors that are not so hot like stramberry grape and double applebut most af flavors are just average not bad but nowere nere what im hearing all these people make the brand sound out to beanother beaf is most htere flavs are basic they dont have a variety of kinda fucked up flavors like tea flavors pumkin pie and wierd mixed flavors it seems like they just have flavors like everyone else your apple, plum, grape, mint, stramberry..etc.in conclusion im saying that the brand is overrated even though they have a few great flavors (but almost everyone dose) and very few uniqe flavors (cardamon pipe and grape with mint are all i know of)and for the record starbuzz is a bit to pricey i must say fussion is better and cheaper and tangiers cost the same as af in my expiernceand i never said hh or al waha were as good as fussion or tangiers i said they were as good as al fakher and i said tangiers and fussion wer better than af so i would assume you would have put 2 and 2 together and asuumed fussion/tagiers>hh/al wahaherse what im sayin tagiers>fussin>starbuzz>nakhla>hookah hookah/Al fakher> Al waha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newjacksm Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 It wasn't overrated 3 years ago. It was actually the best shisha on the market back then. Now how-ever....Different answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted December 22, 2008 Author Share Posted December 22, 2008 ive heard it went downhill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilarseny Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 (edited) QUOTE (Fluffy @ Dec 21 2008, 10:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>hookah hookah is great you need to be pro with heat manegment though or you incinerate it I mean, I kind of expected you'd say this, since you have a thread where you're asking if anyone else likes this flavor. The fact that that thread turned into everyone disagreeing with you should say something. QUOTE (Fluffy @ Dec 21 2008, 10:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>but most af flavors are just average not bad but nowere nere what im hearing all these people make the brand sound out to beI dunno about this. Right now I have mint, cherry, lemon, watermelon, jasmine, grape, pineapple, cinnamon, orange and rose of AF in my room, and all have great flavor and smoke easily--and, for that matter, they were all produced in the last 3 or 4 months. Yea, of course DA isn't going to be to your taste if you don't like anise. But MOST of their flavors are at least pretty close to spot-on, you can taste the intended flavor strongly and it lasts for a while. QUOTE (Fluffy @ Dec 21 2008, 10:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>another beaf is most htere flavs are basic they dont have a variety of kinda fucked up flavors like tea flavors pumkin pie and wierd mixed flavors it seems like they just have flavors like everyone else your apple, plum, grape, mint, stramberry..etc.Okay, fair enough. Honestly, that's not a bad thing to me. I'd rather have a bunch of basic flavors that I can create mixes out of, rather than a whole library of unreasonably complicated flavors that have no business being mixed together. But this is a taste issue. QUOTE (Fluffy @ Dec 21 2008, 10:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>in conclusion im saying that the brand is overrated even though they have a few great flavors (but almost everyone dose) and very few uniqe flavors (cardamon pipe and grape with mint are all i know of)and for the record starbuzz is a bit to pricey i must say fussion is better and cheaper and tangiers cost the same as af in my expiernceand i never said hh or al waha were as good as fussion or tangiers i said they were as good as al fakher and i said tangiers and fussion wer better than af so i would assume you would have put 2 and 2 together and asuumed fussion/tagiers>hh/al wahaherse what im sayin tagiers>fussin>starbuzz>nakhla>hookah hookah/Al fakher> Al wahaWait, what? At never point did I say I thought you were equating hh/aw to fusion or tangiers. Here is the original quote from my post: "But seriously, just because HH or al waha have as many flavors as AF, does not mean they are equal shishas." Perhaps I'm wasting time arguing with someone who's drunk, and can't really comprehend what other people are saying. Edited December 22, 2008 by wilarseny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted December 22, 2008 Author Share Posted December 22, 2008 yep thats me trashed ans smashedi guess we just misunderstand each other i like wierd ass flavors it gets to a point for me when i here peach shisha its just a peach its not anything i havent seen or will be surpised with i like trying stuff thats new i dont go buy the same thing i get bored fast. and for the record i like hookah hookah because it taste very candyish if that makes sence but i aslo like stuff that taste real (thats what tangiers is for) and nakhla is the bomb simply said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no longer welcome Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 af imo was he best shisha out ther, quality and price, however they have had some neg reviews lately and i think they are working on it. they better keep up sine there are so many other competitors out there and folks are willing to spend $15 to try new stuff when AF is still $10-$13. The difference bw AF and other brands is that AF is made in dubai and you would think their standards are much better than egypt or jordan, AF keep your guard up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilarseny Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 QUOTE (Fluffy @ Dec 21 2008, 10:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>yep thats me trashed ans smashedi guess we just misunderstand each other i like wierd ass flavors it gets to a point for me when i here peach shisha its just a peach its not anything i havent seen or will be surpised with i like trying stuff thats new i dont go buy the same thing i get bored fast. and for the record i like hookah hookah because it taste very candyish if that makes sence but i aslo like stuff that taste real (thats what tangiers is for) and nakhla is the bomb simply saidYea I like nakhla too, though I've only had a couple flavors. I get what you mean about being bored, I just go about finding new stuff in different ways.. mixing until you find interesting combos. *shrugs* to each his own.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted December 22, 2008 Author Share Posted December 22, 2008 (edited) [/quote]do you actually think Al Waha or HH taste remotely good in comparison to Tangiers or Fusion? [/quote]close enough cant do anything right tonight Edited December 22, 2008 by Fluffy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickReppinThe909 Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 af is not over rated they have the best mint, grape, watermelon and peach among alot of other good flavors. now af is a sweet in your face with the flavor shisha and some people dont like it. but look at the price you pay for a 250g of starcrap and then we can talk over rated/over priced shit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralleac Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 QUOTE (Fluffy @ Dec 21 2008, 07:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>whats the big deal with this stuff why dose everyon like this brand so much.personally i think its just average anyone with me?Good quality (well, aside from my issues w/ grape,) good flavor, and good price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattarios2 Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 QUOTE (NickReppinThe909 @ Dec 22 2008, 04:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>af is not over rated they have the best mint, grape, watermelon and peach among alot of other good flavors. now af is a sweet in your face with the flavor shisha and some people dont like it. but look at the price you pay for a 250g of starcrap and then we can talk over rated/over priced shitI agree for the price starbuzz is shaaaat. Even if it was 10 bucks 250g it is still crap to me. I did love AF but got sick of the flavors because of how sweet they are. Loved it at first, then just got, eh with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeppyrkr Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 also when ever i have people over to smoke af is all i pack, mainly cause tangiers is to strong for my friends but its sweet and powerful flavor, people that dont ever smoke rant and rave when i put some af watermelon in there. its a party pleaser lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToncSTAR Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 its a good brand. i dont praise it, but when i can get my hands on some ill buy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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