Willywonka Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 lately i have been experimenting with different amounts of shisha and coals and such and noticed that unlike most of the videos i see on youtube and such i get the best smoke when i pack a very small amount of shisha just enough to cover the bottom of the bowl this way it roasts and does not char nearly as easily as whn u pack it to the brim when i fill it up it gets harsh and gives me a huge headache but i am a hard hitter so maybe this is why i need a bigger distance from foil/coal to shisha?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cb1021 Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 oh i guess that is interesting. more interesting is the different ways people smoke shisha. like you said, you are a hard hitter. are you getting thick and flavorful smoke? have you tried packing a full bowl and lowering the heat? In my experience, it takes a lot of heat to extract the flavor and i just cant imagine hot air (your method) heating up the shisha enough to get the best smoke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny_D Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 I just can't see that working at all I'm afraid...Allmost all tobacco's that I've smoked (and i've smoked a few) prefer the bowl to be fluffed and packed high!Foil touching tobacco not a problem either.Consider that back in the day coal was just plopped straight onto the tobacco anyways!JD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willywonka Posted January 4, 2009 Author Share Posted January 4, 2009 ive plopped a coal right on top before and it gives clouds but it gets harsh fast. the next sesh i will pack a fat fluffy bowl and double foil it and let u know..and yes of coarse i get clouds like that the best i ever get actualy admitedly the bowl doesnt last as long as many folks i hear from id say 30 mins max but thats with a few people hitting it bu i can guarantee from my experiance when the shisha touches the foil i might get 1-2 good hits and then BLEH nasty burn tab Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom1 Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 QUOTE (Willywonka @ Jan 4 2009, 04:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>double foil itYou should just use less heat. Watch some youtube videos on how exactly to pack it and get a decent hole pattern going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modisess Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 A little bit of tobacco touching the foil isn't a problem honestly. You just need to use less coals, and fluff up the tobacco in the bowl. Use less but bigger holes, this helps the airflow and let the coals heat up the tobacco better and more even. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inino Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 QUOTE (Johnny_D @ Jan 4 2009, 04:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I just can't see that working at all I'm afraid...Allmost all tobacco's that I've smoked (and i've smoked a few) prefer the bowl to be fluffed and packed high!Foil touching tobacco not a problem either.Consider that back in the day coal was just plopped straight onto the tobacco anyways!JDlol what do you mean back in the day. most people in the middle east smoke it that way. I just got back from Jordan and they laughed at me for smoke mu'essal lol. but i also pack mine high and fluff it in, im not so sure about barely putting any in. how big are your clouds? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeypas Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 Traditionally (ie. "back in the day") they used smoldering camel dung (so i guess they werent so picky about flavours). they put it directly onto the tobacco. so, all this talk about keeping a space between foil and tobacco is just a modern day phenomenon QUOTE (inino @ Jan 4 2009, 09:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (Johnny_D @ Jan 4 2009, 04:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I just can't see that working at all I'm afraid... Allmost all tobacco's that I've smoked (and i've smoked a few) prefer the bowl to be fluffed and packed high! Foil touching tobacco not a problem either. Consider that back in the day coal was just plopped straight onto the tobacco anyways! JD lol what do you mean back in the day. most people in the middle east smoke it that way. I just got back from Jordan and they laughed at me for smoke mu'essal lol. but i also pack mine high and fluff it in, im not so sure about barely putting any in. how big are your clouds? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinrgodsey Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 im a hard hitter that usually smokes with other people, so the tobacco tends to burn pretty fast. when i pack the bowl i try and leave the tobacco atleast 2mm away from the top of the bowl (mya standard bowl) and use the shiny side up with the foil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. Morgan Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 Has anyone who is a "hard hitter" ever considered taking a long, slow drag on the hookah instead of drawing like a madman on it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeppyrkr Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 ugh i have some friends that a hard hitters, annoys the hell out of me, take your time and just take a nice long slow hit, trust me it will be the same thing if not better. as for bowl packing, not sure the rest of your set up, what coals are you using and how many, i think you need more shisha and less heat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willywonka Posted January 4, 2009 Author Share Posted January 4, 2009 (edited) idk exact name of coals but theyr quicklites and are bigger than normal and burn realy hot like 1 will torch a bowl if your not careful so i never put more then 1 AF tab on a fairly big bowl Edited January 4, 2009 by Willywonka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentBob Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 QUOTE (zeppyrkr @ Jan 4 2009, 10:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>ugh i have some friends that a hard hitters, annoys the hell out of me, take your time and just take a nice long slow hit, trust me it will be the same thing if not better. as for bowl packing, not sure the rest of your set up, what coals are you using and how many, i think you need more shisha and less heat.same here...annoys the shit out of me that time and time again i have to tell them they're not trying to suck a golf ball thru a garden hose. usually ends up in a short session and wasted tobacco. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bye bye now have fun Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 see thats why if they arent paying attention you unplug the hose or blow air into the other end then tell them they are too drunk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentBob Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 QUOTE (GNUWorldOrder @ Jan 4 2009, 06:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>see thats why if they arent paying attention you unplug the hose or blow air into the other end then tell them they are too drunk.I've had people blow air when I'm pulling and that is the most annoying thing ever, even more than hard-hitting and wasting my shisha. My wife thinks it's HILARIOUS to do though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjako Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 Some gal at a party last night filled her nice two-hoser (looked modern) literally 1.5" above the rim, then STAMPED it down...It typically leave a fluffed SMALL space between the plate (no foil lately) so I am cooking, not burning the shi sha.Or, I flip the plate if its to the top so I don't char the top layer..monster smoke (its more about the heat anyway). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 fluffed and up to the rim! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antouwan Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 QUOTE (redjako @ Jan 5 2009, 12:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Some gal at a party last night filled her nice two-hoser (looked modern) literally 1.5" above the rim, then STAMPED it down...It typically leave a fluffed SMALL space between the plate (no foil lately) so I am cooking, not burning the shi sha.Or, I flip the plate if its to the top so I don't char the top layer..monster smoke (its more about the heat anyway).was she smoking tangiers? even then that's quite a distance, and possibly an exaggeration? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcaidfire Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 I break up the tobacco very well then just dump it in and kinda press it down a lil. Then use only one coal and have it touching the bowl and move it around in a circle. When I want thicker smoke I plop another coal ontop of the first one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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