Deja Vu

[dafunk5446]

So, I just got done moving some of my fish around, and sat down to play some Super Mario 2 and smoke some hookah. When all of the sudden I got this wierd feeling. I thought to myself I should really move that piece of driftwood so my cichlid can hide under it, and I look over and what is he doing? He is taking mouth fulls of dirt from under the driftwood and spitting them out beside the driftwood, so he can hide under it. Well then the signature skin crawl, eeery Deja Vu feeling came over me. I swear this had happened before. The flavor I was smoking, the look of the fish tank, the game I was playing, even the way I was sitting, seemed all to vivid to be passed off as just random.

I read an article a while ago that was saying scientists feel that Deja Vu can be easily explained. They said that while you are dreaming you have numerous dreams. These dreams are just random firing's in your brain and little tidbits of those firings get stored in your brain. Pretty much, over the course of your life, all these little random dream fragments cover all most every possible situation. Then an event occurs and your brain scans its memory, and runs into all these tidbits of information, recalling them, and you experience Deja Vu.

I feel that this is a possible explaination, but at times it is all to real for me to pass it off as a random event.

So what is your take on the situation? Share some experiences.

[Tati]

I dont know how to explain it, but freaks me out whenever it happens.
So, one night, a long time ago, I had like a sequence of dreams, and I remembered them all. Including when I fell asleep and woke up in between the dreams. This is where it gets interesting...I had those three different situations actually happened to me a couple weeks to months afterwards.
Does that make sense?

[Bulldog_916]

I had it happen to me really starkly when I went to help a friend of the family move from Santa Rosa to Sacramento. Once I got out of the moving van in Santa Rosa, the feeling hit me that I had been at that house before even though I'd never seen the place in my life. I literally FELT it. I tried to put it aside but it was pretty strong. I dont know how exactly to explain it, but I think it has to do with pattern recognition in the brain. You take a snapshot of a place whether it be on TV or in a movie or somewhere that looks like where you are. Put it in your head , probably bury it and forget it. Then when you go to a similar place that snapshot comes back. You feel like it's a familiar place even though you've never been there before. The whole phenomena probably helped early man cope with traveling so much from place to place. You have to pull familiarity out of a place that you've never been to in order to deal with never finding a permanent home. Edited January 15, 2009 by Bulldog_916

[dafunk5446]

I dont know how to explain it, but freaks me out whenever it happens.
So, one night, a long time ago, I had like a sequence of dreams, and I remembered them all. Including when I fell asleep and woke up in between the dreams. This is where it gets interesting...I had those three different situations actually happened to me a couple weeks to months afterwards.
Does that make sense?

yes it makes quite perfect sense to me. I think you are lucky to have experienced such a strange occurance. I would love if that shit happened to me. I have 3-4 dreams that I re-dream on occassion. They are usually spread out by great spans of time (like 2-3 years, some 5-6 years). Most are from my childhood and early teens. 3 are just really strange random dreams that are fun, and one is a nightmare (involves a predator like alien). The nightmare occurs the most often, but it is no longer a nightmare. Since I have dreamed it so often I no longer get freaked out by it. I am in a total state of lucid dreaming, but I dont alter the events in the dream strangely enough. I think its because the Predator like alien is so freakin awesome

The whole phenomena probably helped early man cope with traveling so much from place to place. You have to pull familiarity out of a place that you've never been to in order to deal with never finding a permanent home.

Yes this is was a facet of the arguement in the articale I read and most likely the best explaination of deja vu. However the intensity that you feel, makes you wonder if its just a random safety feature of your brain.

[Canon]

i dont believe in karma, ghosts, aliens, or luck but i do believe in this. its happened to me too many times for me not to believe it.

[Hookah S Moka]

ya upon this topic i ended up having this happen multiple times in the past month or 2
about average once a week ill have a good dream i will remember in the morning and every so often its like, boom and whoa ive been here before kinda thing
it all seems so real but some are just really close to what happened it just seems real
who knows tho, it could be true

[liquidglass]

Well I feel like I need to throw my 2 cents in on this one, because deja vu is one of my favorite topics.


I've had it happen years after I've had a dream and the dream is always exactly as the situation occurs. However, I got into the habit of seeing if I could change just one thing to test if I could control what went on around me. As I did my deja vu got more complex/deep. In my dreams I would attempt to change the outcome of something I knew would be dejavu later on. And not just once I would attempt to change it 3 or 4 times. Then when it would occur in real life I would do the same exact things.....Until one day I was able to change something that was completely different than my dejavu dream. Which I felt was a big accomplisment at the time, and come to think of it I haven't really had much dejavu since that time.



Some might explain it with science, but I am more on the skeptical side of that. As I have had dreams (dejavu) of future events, places, and people. Then in the future in places I've never been/seen I knew exactly where to find objects and I knew people's names before they even spoke.

explain that

[Ebzen]

The explanation I've heard is that Deja Vu's occur when your brain "lags". Not for long, but long enough for your unconscious mind to precieve its surroundings before your conscious mind does it. When your conscious mind does catch up, that one split second will see strangely familiar to you, and you then automatically assume you've dreamt it. However I have no sources on this since I can't for the life of me figure out where I got that from. Just count it as my 2 cents

[kbCorruption]

When ever I experince Deja Vu it is always very vivid. Like if I am having a conversation with someone and I get that familar strange feeling like I have been there before, I already know what the person is going to say or do next. I don't think this is coincidence or your brain playing tricks, there is something deeper spiratually/scientifically going on there

I'm not sure whether to answer scientific or spiritual as I am rather confused with my own spiritual beliefs at this point in my life but I seriously think if we could explain Deja Vu, that we would understand the universe a lot more than we do now. I think it may have something to do with parallel universes or the way paired particles act in respect to each other. Like they did this experiment where they had two different particles, and whichever way they moved one particle, the other particle moved the opposite way as if some unseen force was pushing it. I'll try to find a link about it, but I doubt I will, I saw it on the Science Channel. Crazy stuff.

[kbCorruption]

Here is a link about entangled paired particles: http://colossalstorage.net/entangled.htm

And here is an explanation I found on a forum which explains it much better than I could:

"If you bounce two particles off each other, they become "entangled." Entanglement means that the two particles must be in complementary states. For example, if one of the particles is spin-up, the other must be spin-down to conserve angular momentum. The interesting part is that you can't really say whether a particle is spin-up or spin-down until you measure it. When that measurement occurs on one of the particles, the other one might be all the way across the galaxy! Somehow the other particle has to know about the measurement of the first, even if it is very far away. In quantum mechanics, both particles are part of a single system; a measurement on any part of that system affects the entire system all at once, causing the other particle to immediately assume it's correct, complementary state."

What does this have to do with Deja Vu? Well I do believe in parallel universes and I think that they may be more complex versions of entangled paired particles. So you coexist with the identicle version of you in another universe, you are both compelled to do the opposite of each other. Perhaps Deja Vu is a moment in which you feel that connection?

Now some of you may be thinking that even if there are parallel universes, there probably isn't an identicle version of you out there somewhere, but what if there is an infinite amount of parallel universes? If that were the case, then the probablity of there being a universe exactly identical to the one we are in now is 1, or at least very close to it.

Okay, I'm done with my lunatic rant. Edited January 29, 2009 by kbCorruption

[dafunk5446]

Here is a link about entangled paired particles: http://colossalstorage.net/entangled.htm

And here is an explanation I found on a forum which explains it much better than I could:

"If you bounce two particles off each other, they become "entangled." Entanglement means that the two particles must be in complementary states. For example, if one of the particles is spin-up, the other must be spin-down to conserve angular momentum. The interesting part is that you can't really say whether a particle is spin-up or spin-down until you measure it. When that measurement occurs on one of the particles, the other one might be all the way across the galaxy! Somehow the other particle has to know about the measurement of the first, even if it is very far away. In quantum mechanics, both particles are part of a single system; a measurement on any part of that system affects the entire system all at once, causing the other particle to immediately assume it's correct, complementary state."

What does this have to do with Deja Vu? Well I do believe in parallel universes and I think that they may be more complex versions of entangled paired particles. So you coexist with the identicle version of you in another universe, you are both compelled to do the opposite of each other. Perhaps Deja Vu is a moment in which you feel that connection?

Now some of you may be thinking that even if there are parallel universes, there probably isn't an identicle version of you out there somewhere, but what if there is an infinite amount of parallel universes? If that were the case, then the probablity of there being a universe exactly identical to the one we are in now is 1, or at least very close to it.

Okay, I'm done with my lunatic rant.

Not at all a lunatic rant, I was reading an articale by an up and coming physicist, whose name escapes me right now, and he has gotten a lot of props for his ideas on parallel universes. His idea/model is that the multi-verse is like a bubble bath, at any point you have entire universes expanding and contracting, as well as the "bubbles" spliting into parallel universes, really strang concept, but so far no one has found any holes in his logic, or mathmatics.

[Dylank0010]

I absolutely love when deja vu strikes me, though it usually happens when I'm talking to someone and I know what they're going to say so I just start grinning like an idiot and they stop before they can say what I thought they were going to, just to ask me wtf I'm smiling about. I have no immediate insight on the subject as I haven't read much about it, but this thread is rather inspiring. Deja Vu is a truly fascinating process and though I haven't the slightest as to the reasoning behind it, I can't wait for the next time it happens. Hopefully I'll be somewhat near a computer so I can post about it. Edited February 9, 2009 by Dylank0010

[Hobbs]

I wish I had experienced Deja Vu at one point in time or another.. however it just never happens to me. Maybe I'll get to experience it in the future I hope.