SuburbanSmoker Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 They are the coconut coals HC used to have, but i cant find them on any other vendor. Any insight would be much appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hippo_Master Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Thehookah, the box is different but they ship the same coal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modisess Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 any good compared to cocos? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hippo_Master Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Way cheaper, 96 for 10 bucks. Light faster, about 6 minutes.Last about 50 minutes. Give or take a little, they are a better bargain than Coconaras. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modisess Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 any consistency issues regarding the coals? like the exoticas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hippo_Master Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 QUOTE (modisess @ Jan 19 2009, 02:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>any consistency issues regarding the coals? like the exoticas?I have never had any, I'm on my 7th box. I even have an extra box sitting in the garage in the freezing cold, been there for 3 months and they smoke just as well as the new ones. Think of them as Jap coals without the chemicals. And they are perfect for Tangiers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modisess Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 hmmm alright, thanks for the input. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremyk Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 great coals way cheaper than coconara's and there are a ton of them in the box like 120 or so burn good and last long Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hookah hippie Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 I know thehookah.com has them I have seen them at their werehouse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattarios2 Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 QUOTE (Hippo_Master @ Jan 19 2009, 03:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (modisess @ Jan 19 2009, 02:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>any consistency issues regarding the coals? like the exoticas?I have never had any, I'm on my 7th box. I even have an extra box sitting in the garage in the freezing cold, been there for 3 months and they smoke just as well as the new ones. Think of them as Jap coals without the chemicals. And they are perfect for Tangiers.First off I had bought 4 boxes 2 of them all the coals were terrible. Gave them another shot and bought 2 boxes, 1 was ok and 1 was terrible. So there are consistency issues with them.Secondly ... what does they are like jap coals w/o the chemicals mean. GC's are pretty clean coals, prob the cleanest coal on the market I'd say. The stuff on the outside if my memory is correct, Eric said it is aluminium, magnesium, and a few other things to help light the coals faster, but then you blow all of that off before you smoke. And also, they really are nothing like a Jap coal except their shape.Those coals actually give off a shit ton of heat, I don't know how they could be "perfect" for tangiers. Something perfect for tangiers would be a low heat coal like Golden Canary's. I tried to use the "HC coals" as some call them for tangiers and it was horrible, 1 wasn't enough and 2 was waaay too much. I found I had to cut them in half to get the right heat for Tangiers.How do you get them to work well with Tangiers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hippo_Master Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 QUOTE (mattarios2 @ Jan 19 2009, 11:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (Hippo_Master @ Jan 19 2009, 03:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (modisess @ Jan 19 2009, 02:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>any consistency issues regarding the coals? like the exoticas?I have never had any, I'm on my 7th box. I even have an extra box sitting in the garage in the freezing cold, been there for 3 months and they smoke just as well as the new ones. Think of them as Jap coals without the chemicals. And they are perfect for Tangiers.First off I had bought 4 boxes 2 of them all the coals were terrible. Gave them another shot and bought 2 boxes, 1 was ok and 1 was terrible. So there are consistency issues with them.Secondly ... what does they are like jap coals w/o the chemicals mean. GC's are pretty clean coals, prob the cleanest coal on the market I'd say. The stuff on the outside if my memory is correct, Eric said it is aluminium, magnesium, and a few other things to help light the coals faster, but then you blow all of that off before you smoke. And also, they really are nothing like a Jap coal except their shape.Those coals actually give off a shit ton of heat, I don't know how they could be "perfect" for tangiers. Something perfect for tangiers would be a low heat coal like Golden Canary's. I tried to use the "HC coals" as some call them for tangiers and it was horrible, 1 wasn't enough and 2 was waaay too much. I found I had to cut them in half to get the right heat for Tangiers.How do you get them to work well with Tangiers?I put 3 of them on and enjoy! I love these things. They give off much less heat than a Coconara, maybe because they aren't as dense, and well, i don't even need to compare them to exoticas..GC coals are great, i have nothing against them. But they are the same price, and I don't prefer anything with "Magnesium, Aluminum" or any other coals smothered in an earthly element. . If they didn't have that silver coating would they not light? The GC coals I have work well with Tangiers, I use 2 usually, but I ahvn't had the chance to use them for a while, so I used the Awa'el coals and they performed very nicely. Alot of factors go into smoking, maybe the coals burning hotter have something to do with RH? Or the air quality that day? or the amount of 02 in the area you are smoking? Or your hole placements? Or wind? Air circulation in your home (drafts)? I use these coals for all of my smoking endeavors with no problems. 2 for Desi, 2 for Soft Black, 2 for some Syrian and Iranian stuff I have, 3 for AF Latte, 3 for Mizo Grape, 3 for Seven Spice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafunk5446 Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 I too, was upset to see hookahcompany does not carry these coals. While they are not the best coals, they are decent enough for daily smoking.I did not have the quality issues that some people had. The bottom of the box did have a little more problems (cracking mostly) but nothing major.2 coals seems to be perfect for me with tangiers, you just have to rotate them a little more then normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattarios2 Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 hmm, maybe I just got really unlucky, all I had was issues with these coals. And the magnesium aluminum thing ... really makes the coals light incredibly fast, and I mean INCREDIBLY fast. Also like I said it all flakes right off, so it really shouldn't change health effects at all. I mean look at the GC's when they ash, they just turn black, they barely even ash. GC = EPIC SUCCESS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryno Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 I just hope they are back in stock soon... I need to make an order soon and these are some of my favorite coals. I've had a few (sticks of coal) that like to crack, but I think they may have gotten moist in the garage. Other than that I think they're fine. Usually use 2 on a small phunnel for Tangiers and three with AF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuburbanSmoker Posted January 20, 2009 Author Share Posted January 20, 2009 Thx for the input hippo. Much appreciated . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hippo_Master Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 QUOTE (SuburbanSmoker @ Jan 19 2009, 08:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Thx for the input hippo. Much appreciated .Of course! Glad to help. When breaking them, they sometimes tend to have a mind of their own. Use a 90 degree edge, it's best, they just crack clean right off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldog_916 Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 I liked the Al Awa'el Coconut coals personally. Even though I had to split them for Tangiers, they performed admirably 8/10 times. Now, are you going to get 100% good experiences every time? No. But you get a shit ton more chances for the same dollar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidglass Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Personally I've tried Cocos and the Al Awel as well as Exoticas, in fact I have boxes of each sitting on my hookah shelves.When it comes to tangiers, exoticas are the perfect coal imo. Two pieces (quarters) for a small phunnel and a windcover to get em started.The Al Awel and the Coconaras have never even come close to being great for tangiers for me. They actually seem to put a twist on the flavor for some reason. So I always go back to my good ol exoticas, people complain but I haven't had anyone who hasn't salivated over a bowl I've made with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antouwan Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 you can pick up two sticks of al awa'el and feel that one is heavier than the other. watch out! in my experiences, the lighter sticks are the ones that crack/splinter/decide to randomly become many coals which could lead to a destroyed carpet or if you're unlucky, bad burn wounds... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafunk5446 Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 QUOTE (antouwan @ Jan 20 2009, 03:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>you can pick up two sticks of al awa'el and feel that one is heavier than the other. watch out! in my experiences, the lighter sticks are the ones that crack/splinter/decide to randomly become many coals which could lead to a destroyed carpet or if you're unlucky, bad burn wounds...+1 the ones the crack tend to look way more porus as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hippo_Master Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 (edited) Charcoal is a natural humidity remedy, when you let it sit open it will absorb all of the humidity it can until it's had it's fill. These coals are very porous, and most likely absorb more.They come from Cali, that's a pretty Humid place, and anywhere farther west or in the midwest is a damn desert , so when they come to you they will release humidity into your atmosphere and most likely become brittle before they regulate themselves. When you light them, they can crack because they will release humidity really quickly, and the pores are slightly expanded, but if you have them regulated they will stay strong in most cases. The coals on the bottom of any box have been crushed by all the weight of the ones on the top! They are going to always be brittle if not completely broken, but they are a good shock absorber to the coals above them. **** I can't find the post i read about this yesterday, I searched it and jut got lucky on one of the pages.**** Edited January 20, 2009 by Hippo_Master Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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