New President Takes Office

[Bye bye now have fun]

hes not even full black hes 1/2 black. i dont see the big fucking deal. but i will say that people that voted for him because hes black are tools.

[Bulldog_916]

It aint even a week into it yet and already conservative pundits are like "The country's going to hell and it's all Obama's fault!" I'd be willing to bet that if Obama does manage to pull us out of this shit hole we're in, they'll find a way to say it was Bush's policy that "laid the ground work" for a recovery. Yea, laid the ground work by destroying and pulverizing what used to be there.

All I'm saying is cut Obama a little slack and maybe give him a little credit for starting off on the right foot.

[Rafflersauce]

within 24 hours he already is talking about re-banning CCW in national parks....sigh..

Now what would be the point of that? /sigh

there is no point, i laugh at the people that say obama didnt have an anti-gun agenda. i think there are more serious issues for him to be focusing on

[TheScotsman]

within 24 hours he already is talking about re-banning CCW in national parks....sigh..

Now what would be the point of that? /sigh

there is no point, i laugh at the people that say obama didnt have an anti-gun agenda. i think there are more serious issues for him to be focusing on

Maybe soon some of the "we-need-change" people that were so in love with him will figure out that he is just another typical politician, and would lie to his granny to get elected. but, (sigh) I don't think most of his supporters are that bright.


You know you have a "bright future" in the office when his very first official phone call was to Abbas. Not a neighbor, like Canada or Mex, not an ally like GB, Germany or even France... but Abbas. What an prize we have there! (not to mention the Treasury sec that can't figure out how to fill out Schedule-C with turbo tax. Good guy to have in charge of Treasury, huh?) Oh, well, at least it's entertaining! Welcome to the USSA! Notice since he has been in office only 1 day has the DJIA been up, then only slightly?

[SilentBob]

Maybe instead of bashing already we wait and see what happens. And he's been in office 2.5 days..so that means the DJIA has been up half the time he's been in office.

[TheScotsman]

Maybe instead of bashing already we wait and see what happens. And he's been in office 2.5 days..so that means the DJIA has been up half the time he's been in office.

He deserves the same treatment Bush got at the hands of the liberal bozos.
After all, every time one of his "plans" fails, the country wins the battle for freedom,and less socialisim.

I see what is happening, he is another politician lying his arse off.
Jan 06 he said his economic stim would NOT have earmarks... remember that? or do we need a link to the speech?

Go read the great saviour's plan, so far it's packed with useless pork.

Unless you consider several hundered million alloted for birth control to be something that is going to stimulate the economy.

Or maybe nearly 500,000,000,000 alloted specialy for military hardware is really an economic necissity?
No earmarks my arse. they are just calling them something else (guess that is your change). Do you hear Obama calling a foul on them? No!

[dafunk5446]

Or maybe nearly 500,000,000,000 alloted specialy for military hardware is really an economic necissity?

Yes in a sense it is, since military spending consumes the largest chunk of government spending. Most of that money will go to private contractors, which in turn generates economic stimulus. All of the government spending is included in calculating GDP (for those who dont know, GDP is what they watch to ensure we are not going into recession. Somebody was just sleeping on the job and not paying attention to it the last few years.). So it does not really matter where the money goes per se. As long as there is money going into the system it will improve the economic situation of the country. Giving money to the military complex, is more effective then the stimulus checks sent out by Bush. Why? because most of that money went to paying of debt, which in a sense you could say is not real money, which did nothing for generating economic stimulus.


Do I like that they are spending money on military? No I hate it, I hate the military complex of the USA. It has to much power in our country and consumes money that could be used for other programs (like social programs, heathcare, welfare, public works). But one thing I am sure of is that the economists who are advising the government, know a shit ton more then I do about stimulating the economy. If they say that this will help, then I will trust their judgement.

[judgeposer]

Or maybe nearly 500,000,000,000 alloted specialy for military hardware is really an economic necissity?

Yes in a sense it is, since military spending consumes the largest chunk of government spending. Most of that money will go to private contractors, which in turn generates economic stimulus. All of the government spending is included in calculating GDP (for those who dont know, GDP is what they watch to ensure we are not going into recession. Somebody was just sleeping on the job and not paying attention to it the last few years.). So it does not really matter where the money goes per se. As long as there is money going into the system it will improve the economic situation of the country. Giving money to the military complex, is more effective then the stimulus checks sent out by Bush. Why? because most of that money went to paying of debt, which in a sense you could say is not real money, which did nothing for generating economic stimulus.


Do I like that they are spending money on military? No I hate it, I hate the military complex of the USA. It has to much power in our country and consumes money that could be used for other programs (like social programs, heathcare, welfare, public works). But one thing I am sure of is that the economists who are advising the government, know a shit ton more then I do about stimulating the economy. If they say that this will help, then I will trust their judgement.

I thought some might find this post interesting: http://gregmankiw.blogspot.com/2008/12/spe...ultipliers.html - the poster compares research on the effectiveness of spending vs. tax cuts to stimulate the economy. On this, to be sure, economists disagree really only about which one of the two produces the greater stimulus --but both do.

Obama had promised during his campaign to resist cutting military spending (in one of the debates specifically, though I have since forgotten in which) - so, he seems to making an effort to keep that promise.

I didn't vote for him; I preferred nearly anyone else to him, namely a conservative, but he's our president, alas. I will suspend judgment until we have more on which to evaluate his performance. That said, he seems to have had a rather seamless and uncontroversial transition, unlike his Democrat predecessor, President Clinton.