PipeSmokeMcGee Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 Alright, I just have to ask you guys something. The other day I was in a local restaraunt smoking my pipe (pipe, not hookah). I was puffing out a few rings and I puffed one that seemed to be perfect. It was perfectly round (about 3 inches in diameter) and smoke only comprised the ring (it wasn't a ring of thick smoke with thin smoke around it). After floating about 18 inches away from my mouth, it just stopped! It didn't rise, it didn't keep going away from me, it didn't dissipate, it just stopped! After staring in awe for about 15 seconds with no movement, I reached up through it with my pipe, which did cause it to dissipate. However, this seems like it is physically impossible. Smoke, much hotter than the air, should at least rise. Anyone ever seen anything like it? I've got to know,BEN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dizzing Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 yeah, i've had rings do some weird things before. i've also seen candle flames jump up so that the BASE of the flame is floating a few inches above the actual wick. it's really ethereal.as for an explanation for these phenomena, i've got nothin'. there are matters so complicated in science that the basic explanations we've gotten from our publicly funded education systems just don't work. i'm sure there are some people out there who might know what could cause this stuff to happen. the candle thing really bothers me a lot more than errant smoke rings, to be honest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 Every once in a while my friend's rings will turn into a perfect star-like shape... looks something like this from the side. Its weird because he's the only person I've seen it happen to, and he has no idea how it happens. [img]http://www.hookahportal.com/star.bmp[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 Oh ...and your ring obviously landed on a ghost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunsboy Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 I could only make those little fast disappearing rings .. How is that you put alot of smoke into a ring like that ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 I make mine thicker by letting smoke flow into my mouth a bit before I form the ring. I don't use my throat though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HookahCaterpillar Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 Ive had rings go shooting out perfectly straight in front of me and suddenly shoot up or down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushrat Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 Air currents. Your ring was in a spot of dead air. the candle on the other hand is haunted... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PipeSmokeMcGee Posted February 28, 2006 Author Share Posted February 28, 2006 [quote name='mushrat']Air currents. Your ring was in a spot of dead air. [/quote]But heat rises, regardless of wind (unless the wind is there is a downward draft). This was ridiculous, and my mind is going crazy trying to figure this out. It didn't change shape or move.GEEEEEEEZ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushrat Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 the smoke isn't necessarily "HOT" its just a cloud of air with suspended particulate matter. Especially after its been exhaled into the air....so if anythign it might sink... could be caught the air currents just right to hld it in place.... could have been a free radical from your years at berkley in the 60's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarbyFett Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 ive had similar stuff happen while smoking my pipe but never as long....I havent been able to try smoke rings eith my hookah yet due to the fact i have to smoke it outside....and while ive gotten smoke rings with my pipe outside....the wind only likes to pick up when im smoking my hookah....damn wind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yashman19 Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 I'd have to agree that it has to do with the air currents just holding it in place. I've blown rings straight infront of me, they get going for about a good 2', then they just freeze... Most of the time they stop because their is an ever so slight current pushing it back towards me, then it slowly makes its way back to me... So it goes out striaght in front, then freezes in one place, then slowing comes back to my face.. Kinda cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pavlakos_politakos Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 that is wierd....and mush the smoke wouldnt be necessarilly 'hot' but at least warm right?i mean,it came out of a pipe with hot coals on it.and dizz i know exactly what your talking about(the floating flame)ive seen it at home,at churc sometimes,and when im lighting a cigarrette it happens sometimes.im sure theres some twisted,scientific explanation behind these "phenomenoms",besides ghosts and haunted candles[img]http://hookahforum.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif[/img]. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonthert Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 I blew one, when me and two friends were just about to start playing cards, I was to cut and I blew a perfect smoke ring, that started about 1 1/2 in in diameter and then twisted down, growing larger and finally expanded and surrounded the deck of cards. We were impressed, I can tell you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JByer323 Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 I've had some weird one happen with pipes, that's for sure. Still working on perfecting my hookah rings, though.You guys should see the smoke ship I can blow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 My friend and I like to get a waterbottle and see who can blow the most rings around the top of it. Either that or into a bowl or cup. Kind of like that card game, but with smoke rings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ApoC Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 smoke rings take lots of practice to get down, and years to master. i can blow rings through one another without much trouble, ive done 3 through another once or twice, thats extremely hard. more than anything, try to make consistant, round thick rings before you start with the acrobatics, since without good looking rings those stunts are a waste of effort. look on the bright side, hookahs are the best way to learn smoke rings quickly, and you can fill your lungs for huge volleys of em... gets you really buzzed too, all that relaxing and holding in of smoke = dizzy town Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ApoC Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 oh, and about rings doing cool things like stalling or rotating and falling, thats all got to do with pressure/temperature zones, air currents, you name it, there are a lot of variables involved. as for zig-zag rings, i get those once in a while, very cool, but im unsure as to how they occur (something to do with a balanced movement/rotation in the low pressure ring on the inside of a smoke ring, which i believe is a result of the friction of the smoke spinning evenly or something). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonthert Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 Wait, how is smoke much hotter than air, Ben? Seems to me it needs to be the same temperature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PipeSmokeMcGee Posted March 1, 2006 Author Share Posted March 1, 2006 [quote name='Tangiers']Wait, how is smoke much hotter than air, Ben? Seems to me it needs to be the same temperature.[/quote]Tang- are you serious? Is smoke not created by burning the substance? Burning stuff is hot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pavlakos_politakos Posted March 2, 2006 Share Posted March 2, 2006 yes,seems quite obvious doesnt it tang?why would it be the same temp.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonthert Posted March 2, 2006 Share Posted March 2, 2006 By the time it gets to your mouth, the extra heat in the vapor has leveled it out to room temperature, no? Gases have extordinarily low heat capacities, so they would cool off very fast. Compare it to, say the steam from boiling water! The steam from boiling water is hot enough to scald, the hookah vapor is not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmexx Posted March 2, 2006 Share Posted March 2, 2006 Whenever I blow my O's (or rings as you like to call it,) they often go for about two feet and curve down, facing the table. Somewhat like Tang's experience, except almost all the time. I'm trying to perfect the O's around beer bottles and into glasses. I'm getting there :)Jon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonthert Posted March 3, 2006 Share Posted March 3, 2006 I would guess there is a slight downward airflow, across a table, whch draws the rings down and then flips them on their sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PipeSmokeMcGee Posted March 3, 2006 Author Share Posted March 3, 2006 that's so crazy, i've gotta see some pictures of that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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