PhxKarma Posted January 27, 2009 Author Share Posted January 27, 2009 QUOTE (mattarios2 @ Jan 27 2009, 03:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>get rid of nakhla tropicana and go with mango or mandarin orange, they are much better than tropicana.Thanks for the tip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newjacksm Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 Mango Nakhla = yuck I bought a 250G based on reviews and it was bad and other people that smoked with me didnt like it... it tasted like butt.... Mandarian Orange though good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattarios2 Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 did you acclimate the mango? i tried it out of the box and it tasted horrible, then i let it sit out, and it was awesome, my friends really enjoyed it as well.maybe give that a try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ambuletzd2h Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 if your gonna be serving nakhla you cant forget about there double apple! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 starbuzz margarita tastes like salt (really bad)starbuzz wildberry mint is really bad too, the wildberry is gross. have you tried all these? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhxKarma Posted January 27, 2009 Author Share Posted January 27, 2009 QUOTE (Scoop @ Jan 27 2009, 03:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>starbuzz margarita tastes like salt (really bad)starbuzz wildberry mint is really bad too, the wildberry is gross. have you tried all these?I have not tried all of these yet, this is still a tenative list. I searched goodle for "Top Starbuzz Flavors" and choose the most often named ones I found. Blue Mist seems to be top dawg, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victim026 Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 QUOTE (PhxKarma @ Jan 27 2009, 03:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (Scoop @ Jan 27 2009, 03:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>starbuzz margarita tastes like salt (really bad)starbuzz wildberry mint is really bad too, the wildberry is gross. have you tried all these?I have not tried all of these yet, this is still a tenative list. I searched goodle for "Top Starbuzz Flavors" and choose the most often named ones I found. Blue Mist seems to be top dawg,Blue mist and orange are the lone beacons of hope in a sea of disgusting starbuzz flavors.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhxKarma Posted January 28, 2009 Author Share Posted January 28, 2009 QUOTE (Victim026 @ Jan 27 2009, 05:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (PhxKarma @ Jan 27 2009, 03:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (Scoop @ Jan 27 2009, 03:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>starbuzz margarita tastes like salt (really bad)starbuzz wildberry mint is really bad too, the wildberry is gross. have you tried all these?I have not tried all of these yet, this is still a tenative list. I searched goodle for "Top Starbuzz Flavors" and choose the most often named ones I found. Blue Mist seems to be top dawg,Blue mist and orange are the lone beacons of hope in a sea of disgusting starbuzz flavors....What should I use for the premium tobacco? I am using AF and Nakhla for $8 a bowl each, not going to charge more for AF. I just want two tiers of tobacco, regular and premium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victim026 Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 QUOTE (PhxKarma @ Jan 27 2009, 05:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (Victim026 @ Jan 27 2009, 05:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (PhxKarma @ Jan 27 2009, 03:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (Scoop @ Jan 27 2009, 03:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>starbuzz margarita tastes like salt (really bad)starbuzz wildberry mint is really bad too, the wildberry is gross. have you tried all these?I have not tried all of these yet, this is still a tenative list. I searched goodle for "Top Starbuzz Flavors" and choose the most often named ones I found. Blue Mist seems to be top dawg,Blue mist and orange are the lone beacons of hope in a sea of disgusting starbuzz flavors....What should I use for the premium tobacco? I am using AF and Nakhla for $8 a bowl each, not going to charge more for AF. I just want two tiers of tobacco, regular and premium.I would say then use Tangier's, just make sure to let people know it's quite a bit stronger then anything else you carry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhxKarma Posted January 28, 2009 Author Share Posted January 28, 2009 QUOTE (Victim026 @ Jan 27 2009, 05:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (PhxKarma @ Jan 27 2009, 05:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (Victim026 @ Jan 27 2009, 05:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (PhxKarma @ Jan 27 2009, 03:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (Scoop @ Jan 27 2009, 03:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>starbuzz margarita tastes like salt (really bad)starbuzz wildberry mint is really bad too, the wildberry is gross. have you tried all these?I have not tried all of these yet, this is still a tenative list. I searched goodle for "Top Starbuzz Flavors" and choose the most often named ones I found. Blue Mist seems to be top dawg,Blue mist and orange are the lone beacons of hope in a sea of disgusting starbuzz flavors....What should I use for the premium tobacco? I am using AF and Nakhla for $8 a bowl each, not going to charge more for AF. I just want two tiers of tobacco, regular and premium.I would say then use Tangier's, just make sure to let people know it's quite a bit stronger then anything else you carry.Tangiers is tasty, but without phunnels, it would not be good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drabin Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 don't risk anything with tangiers. I would go nak, AF, and SB. avoid tangiers. warning people is dumb. head strong teenagers aren't going to listen. then the bowl will arrive and they will smoke it like its sb. they will die. well most likely not. but you get the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhxKarma Posted January 28, 2009 Author Share Posted January 28, 2009 QUOTE (drabin @ Jan 27 2009, 05:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>don't risk anything with tangiers. I would go nak, AF, and SB. avoid tangiers. warning people is dumb. head strong teenagers aren't going to listen. then the bowl will arrive and they will smoke it like its sb. they will die. well most likely not. but you get the point.Thanks, I was planning on using Nakhla, AF, and Starbuzz. The price of starbuzz is insane, I might have to charge around $11 a bowl for it. I see mush charges $12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drabin Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 my best advice is to go to other local hookah bars to see what they are like. take note of price, decor, if you get a chance ask the group next to you why they come to the lounge. then take everything you saw and make it better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhxKarma Posted January 28, 2009 Author Share Posted January 28, 2009 QUOTE (drabin @ Jan 27 2009, 06:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>my best advice is to go to other local hookah bars to see what they are like. take note of price, decor, if you get a chance ask the group next to you why they come to the lounge. then take everything you saw and make it better.This is what I am doing over the next few months. The bars around here seem to be too focused on other things besides hookahs, like the food or pool tables. Thanks for the advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jezter6 Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 QUOTE (PhxKarma @ Jan 27 2009, 05:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (Scoop @ Jan 27 2009, 03:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>starbuzz margarita tastes like salt (really bad)starbuzz wildberry mint is really bad too, the wildberry is gross. have you tried all these?I have not tried all of these yet, this is still a tenative list. I searched goodle for "Top Starbuzz Flavors" and choose the most often named ones I found. Blue Mist seems to be top dawg,You need to smoke more. Googling and taking forum advice is not the way to go.You need to experience it. If you don't know about hookah, how can you open a hookah bar? Smoke many times a day, every flavor you can get your hands on. Learn the nuances of each brand and flavor and base your decisions on logic and reason, not on the internet.I said above - you're not ready for this. Don't even think about prices and "tiers" of tobacco until you know what you're doing. Do the research yourself, and once you're sure you know what you're doing - keep researching more because even then you're setting yourself up for failure.If you've never smoked it, don't bother trying to put it on your 'menu' until you know what it is, know how to pack it, know how it reacts to heat with the coals you intend to use. You're going to have to pack a shitload of bowls every day (or train someone else to do it) - so you need to be the resident expert. Just taking opinions here will not make you a success. If you think you can just buy a shitton of tobacco and coals that were recommended here without trying them and knowing how to make a great bowl, you really need to take about 10 steps back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jezter6 Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 And my apologies if I sound harsh. It really isn't intended to be that way, but we see a lot of people who think it's easy to just open a hookah lounge because they've smoked at home for a few weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhxKarma Posted January 28, 2009 Author Share Posted January 28, 2009 (edited) QUOTE (jezter6 @ Jan 27 2009, 07:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>You need to smoke more. Googling and taking forum advice is not the way to go.You need to experience it. If you don't know about hookah, how can you open a hookah bar? Smoke many times a day, every flavor you can get your hands on. Learn the nuances of each brand and flavor and base your decisions on logic and reason, not on the internet.I said above - you're not ready for this. Don't even think about prices and "tiers" of tobacco until you know what you're doing. Do the research yourself, and once you're sure you know what you're doing - keep researching more because even then you're setting yourself up for failure.If you've never smoked it, don't bother trying to put it on your 'menu' until you know what it is, know how to pack it, know how it reacts to heat with the coals you intend to use. You're going to have to pack a shitload of bowls every day (or train someone else to do it) - so you need to be the resident expert. Just taking opinions here will not make you a success. If you think you can just buy a shitton of tobacco and coals that were recommended here without trying them and knowing how to make a great bowl, you really need to take about 10 steps back.If you would have read the thread, you would see that I am going to be opening in about a year, I WANT to give myself a year to research and plan, everythign you said is exactly what I am doing. I have smoked hookah for years, I am just not familar with many of the shisha brands, I usuauly smoke laylina or fantasia, as that is all my local smoke shop offers, and I have no problems with them. I have been ordering a lot of 50g boxes of various brands and flavors to see what I like, but I am checking out websites like this to get opinons of other smokers.I know this will not be easy, but it's a passion of mine, and something I have wanted to do since I was 15. Edited January 28, 2009 by PhxKarma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joytron Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 sbuzz tangerine is a must!plus their orange tastes exactly like cactus cooler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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