jester589 Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 Just got my KM M3 Isis and low and behold there is a sizable air leak where the hose port was welded onto the hookah. Was just wondering what the best method of sealing this would be. Thanks in advance for any sound advice that arrives. And thanks for the bad advice I might receive as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryno Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 Only thing I can think of is use some putty to seal the leak like JB Weld or something similar. IF you're good at soldering, you can try to fix it, but I only recommend that if you know EXACTLY what you're doing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jester589 Posted January 29, 2009 Author Share Posted January 29, 2009 I will be going no where near a soldering iron lol...The putty sounds like a sound idea...Hell, plato would probably work, I surmise it wouldn't taste that hot though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 if you think about it logically...there should not be air coming out of that even if its not fully welded.the hookah creates a seal with your vase. the only way air can escape is through the hose port, or the purge valve. both of them are straight pipes...if youre leaking out of a weld, something else may be damaged Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jester589 Posted January 29, 2009 Author Share Posted January 29, 2009 (edited) When I stop drawing smoke comes out of where the hose port was welded on. It appears that the hose port wasnt completely welded on. That makes logical sense to me lol Edited January 29, 2009 by jester589 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victim026 Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 jb weld is the way to go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny_D Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 In a fix I've used melted candle wax to block the hole to smoke.Until you get jbweld.JD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 QUOTE (jester589 @ Jan 29 2009, 02:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>When I stop drawing smoke comes out of where the hose port was welded on. It appears that the hose port wasnt completely welded on. That makes logical sense to me lolso the straight pipe isn't closed off somewhere...otherwise there should never be smoke around the hose port right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jester589 Posted January 29, 2009 Author Share Posted January 29, 2009 Good idea on the candle wax...I may experiment with that first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushrat Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 Depends on the inside configuration. It is possible to have the port only leak since the hole in the bottom of the stem still connects to a much larger port opening. so there is room for smoke to leak out of a bad weld without there being any other porblems.. If that made any sense... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joytron Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 why dont you return it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 QUOTE (mushrat @ Jan 29 2009, 03:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Depends on the inside configuration. It is possible to have the port only leak since the hole in the bottom of the stem still connects to a much larger port opening. so there is room for smoke to leak out of a bad weld without there being any other porblems.. If that made any sense...that would make it a common chamber no? it shouldn't be that case with the km. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushrat Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 QUOTE (Scoop @ Jan 29 2009, 04:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (mushrat @ Jan 29 2009, 03:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Depends on the inside configuration. It is possible to have the port only leak since the hole in the bottom of the stem still connects to a much larger port opening. so there is room for smoke to leak out of a bad weld without there being any other porblems.. If that made any sense...that would make it a common chamber no? it shouldn't be that case with the km.Not necessarily..sorry im having troubles explining it properly..but the hole in the bottom of the stem is a LOT smaller that the hole for the hose port right? So there has to be some place where the small hole opens into a larger port opening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 QUOTE (mushrat @ Jan 29 2009, 04:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (Scoop @ Jan 29 2009, 04:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (mushrat @ Jan 29 2009, 03:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Depends on the inside configuration. It is possible to have the port only leak since the hole in the bottom of the stem still connects to a much larger port opening. so there is room for smoke to leak out of a bad weld without there being any other porblems.. If that made any sense...that would make it a common chamber no? it shouldn't be that case with the km.Not necessarily..sorry im having troubles explining it properly..but the hole in the bottom of the stem is a LOT smaller that the hole for the hose port right? So there has to be some place where the small hole opens into a larger port opening.if im understanding this, you mean the area being pointed to by the red arrow is welded onto both the actual heart of the hookah, and also the tube leading down to the vase? and that weld can be shitty leaking both into the heart and outside? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushrat Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 QUOTE (Scoop @ Jan 29 2009, 05:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (mushrat @ Jan 29 2009, 04:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (Scoop @ Jan 29 2009, 04:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (mushrat @ Jan 29 2009, 03:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Depends on the inside configuration. It is possible to have the port only leak since the hole in the bottom of the stem still connects to a much larger port opening. so there is room for smoke to leak out of a bad weld without there being any other porblems.. If that made any sense...that would make it a common chamber no? it shouldn't be that case with the km.Not necessarily..sorry im having troubles explining it properly..but the hole in the bottom of the stem is a LOT smaller that the hole for the hose port right? So there has to be some place where the small hole opens into a larger port opening.if im understanding this, you mean the area being pointed to by the red arrow is welded onto both the actual heart of the hookah, and also the tube leading down to the vase? and that weld can be shitty leaking both into the heart and outside?excellent pic..see i wonder if its really a pipe the whole way or if the hole opens into a small space before connecting to the port. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 oh ok, i see what youre saying now. eric said back in teh day hookah didn't have hearts and youd see the 2 actual pipes the whole way. i dont personally know, i wouldn't cut up a km to investigate hehe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushrat Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 QUOTE (Scoop @ Jan 29 2009, 06:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>oh ok, i see what youre saying now. eric said back in teh day hookah didn't have hearts and youd see the 2 actual pipes the whole way. i dont personally know, i wouldn't cut up a km to investigate heheRight.. me neither.If the patch job works, then i guess it really doesn't matter in the long run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhxKarma Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 JB weld should work fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gothookahs.com Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 jester589,If the KM is still leaking, give us a call and we will exchange it.Chuck-Sales mgrgotHookahs.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuie Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 My KM gets here tomorrow, going to pick up some JB Weld on the way home from work, just in case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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