Scalliwag Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 I read the product review by gaia.plateau which was really good BTW. That got me to wondering that for those that use coconaros what methods and results they are getting when it comes to lighting them? Of course I would like to know real time and not guess-amates. If you are using a torch, what type and are you holding the coals with tongs, one at a time, or on an electric stove coil at the highest setting or? I am trying to get a idea as to the amount of time, energy, and effort people are putting into these. Peoples idea as to when a coal is ready vaires as well so try and explain or better post a pic of what your definition of when one is ready. This will help with my burner project so thanks in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joytron Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 I use the wallgreens stove a bunch of people have on here. I know you dont want guesstimates but I just turn it up all the way, set on my coals, get my hookah ready, flip, finish preperation and get ready to smoke. Will time and it and get back to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freezerburn456 Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 I use a standard crappy kitchen stove. It is the coil kind that comes with most houses and apartments. I put the coals on, equal distance from eachother in the middle of the ring, then crank the coil up to max. The time that I do from putting them on to taking them off is generally 3.5-4.5 min. That usually allows them to get red and have a light flame coming off when I remove them off the stove. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerberus Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 I use the same setup as freezerburn, usually toss the coals on then make the bowl, put together the hookah, flip em, set the hookah in the smoking room, and go grab the coals. Usually takes between 4-4.5 minutes for me. Just make sure the coals are red hot on both sides and have at least a small flame coming off of them when you are about to take them off the stove and you should be good to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuie Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Same here, never timed them personally but that sounds right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MechAnt Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 I third all that. Electric coil, heat it up and flip once. Then again, I don't even use Coconaras that much anyway.Use your nice little flame plate scalli . Torch generally gets them running faster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikon1323 Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 quick question guys im about to order some....how long does each coal last? and when your smoking out of a mod bowl do you use 2 coals or 1??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElijahSing Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 I got that good ol' single coil burner from Walgreen's as well..It works great, i just turn it on to max, set about 2-3 coals on it, and set up my hookah, flip the coals in about 1-2 minutes, and by the time i'm all ready to smoke they are perfectly lit.Overall process is about 3-5 minutes.. but i take my time =] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scalliwag Posted February 3, 2009 Author Share Posted February 3, 2009 QUOTE (MechAnt @ Feb 2 2009, 05:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I third all that. Electric coil, heat it up and flip once. Then again, I don't even use Coconaras that much anyway.Use your nice little flame plate scalli . Torch generally gets them running faster.I'm shooting for getting it fine tuned for the coco's now. They take longer than lum coal I am used to so I need to tweak. My best time on one so far is about 10 minutes. But there is not near as much heat since I change it to alcohol. I think I'll have to kick up the air but I want to avoid that. I don't want to switch back to propane either. Alcohol is definately making it harder. But it'll be a really inexpensive setup if I can avoid a higher volume air pump. That or get a good source on a decent one at a decent price. Just to see if I'm on the right track I am setting up my airbrush pump and try and find my flowmeter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMoodz Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 Scalli, you truly are a man of science. I use a portable single coil burner on high and I usually do about 4-5 minutes on 1 side, then flip and do an additional 2-3 minutes. To me the coal is ready to go when there is very little to no black areas left on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scalliwag Posted February 3, 2009 Author Share Posted February 3, 2009 QUOTE (MrMoodz @ Feb 2 2009, 08:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Scalli, you truly are a man of science. I use a portable single coil burner on high and I usually do about 4-5 minutes on 1 side, then flip and do an additional 2-3 minutes. To me the coal is ready to go when there is very little to no black areas left on it.much more redneck engineering than science I whipped out the airbrush pump and made a couple more vids. Let's just say it really likes a LOT of air. I was not sure if the alcohol would vaporize to keep up but it answered that question. This gets me in the ranges some of the guys here are seeing. I'm still tweaking though because I think it can be more efficient. Not so much in time but energy and hardware requirements. I am linking the vids in my sig and updating the other thread with the technical details. Vids were still processing last I checked. So has anybody setup a torch system or anything other than the stove element that requires less intervention? i.e.- where you are not having to hold them with tongs 4 minutes straight. To me that is just a mood killer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antouwan Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 i used to use the coil stove, but i found a quicker method: microwave for about 35 seconds and then put it on the stove air vent (it's flat inbetween the burners with a metal cover, so i can put the coals on it) for about 45 seconds flip them, and then another 30 seconds. i would have left them in the microwave longer, but it was making funny noises, smelling bad, and was kinda freaking me out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scalliwag Posted February 3, 2009 Author Share Posted February 3, 2009 QUOTE (antouwan @ Feb 2 2009, 09:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>i used to use the coil stove, but i found a quicker method: microwave for about 35 seconds and then put it on the stove air vent (it's flat inbetween the burners with a metal cover, so i can put the coals on it) for about 45 seconds flip them, and then another 30 seconds. i would have left them in the microwave longer, but it was making funny noises, smelling bad, and was kinda freaking me out.the last coals I tried to light in the microwave blew up. My wife was LIVID to put it mildly. It sounded like popcorn on steroids!!! I thought it was funny as hell! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indian_villager Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 Hey scalli just saw your latest vid on using alcohol for a fuel......Ever consider using once of those air pumps for the airbeds? They can move a pretty good volume of air.Also as far as times go when I use a coil burner it takes like 5-6 mins with flipping to get it all hot.But when I use the Bernzomatic TS4000 torch it takes about a minute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scalliwag Posted February 3, 2009 Author Share Posted February 3, 2009 QUOTE (indian_villager @ Feb 2 2009, 09:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Hey scalli just saw your latest vid on using alcohol for a fuel......Ever consider using once of those air pumps for the airbeds? They can move a pretty good volume of air.Also as far as times go when I use a coil burner it takes like 5-6 mins with flipping to get it all hot.But when I use the Bernzomatic TS4000 torch it takes about a minute.The ones I've seen are more of a fan driven blower type. I think if you harnessed that power it would be too intense. True pumps are more consistant in delivery without as much change when resistance (fans just keep spinning without delivering air, pumps try to build pressure.I need my flowmeter and regulator to nail down specs and those require a pump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuie Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 Okay Scalli, took my right at 6 minutes tonight on my POS Hotpoint Stove top, counter was too messy to pull out the Walgreens Burner, that one is quicker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremyk Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 lighting coco's with a torch is impossible i've try and wasn't successful lol i put them on the electric stove and then make my bowl while they light up about two min. in a flip them and finish my bowl and hookah prep then after about 4 min. they are glowing red with a flame so i take em off and put them on the bowl personally i like the al' awed or how ever you spell it coconut coal cause there are close to 160 coals in the box for $9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebarnes02 Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 Electric coil on high lights my coco's in just under 7 minutes to the point of no black with glowing flames around them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camelflage Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 electric coil on high 5-7 minutes bright red both sides... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newjacksm Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 Cocos on the Walgreens stove about 7-10 min for me flipping them making sure there red all around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scalliwag Posted February 8, 2009 Author Share Posted February 8, 2009 3 minutes! It's a bit of overkill but it's fun You could back it down or even step it up from there. Ms. Scalli only allows for up to one foot flames no closer than four foot to the ceiling for any projects I do. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6oomMyNLWg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majid Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 Kind of ghetto but after a few minutes on the stove/coil/whatever you can use a blowdryer to get them going really quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modisess Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 QUOTE (Majid @ Feb 7 2009, 06:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Kind of ghetto but after a few minutes on the stove/coil/whatever you can use a blowdryer to get them going really quickly.yeah, but just a fan would work as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kapten Kanel Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 Damn i hate that it seems like there is some law forbidding "open/free coils" in sweden (EU?), takes like 15-20 minutes to fully light coconaras and cocobricos, i use a (excuse my limited english vocabolary) glas-heating-thingy where the coil is underneath a glas-board. Very ineffective and it doesnt feel especially safe, i believe the coals leaves minor marks after lots of uses + that ive heard someone say their glas got screwed up (which must be BS considering the coals temperature vs glas melting point but...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchard Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 QUOTE (Kapten Kanel @ Feb 8 2009, 02:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Damn i hate that it seems like there is some law forbidding "open/free coils" in sweden (EU?), takes like 15-20 minutes to fully light coconaras and cocobricos, i use a (excuse my limited english vocabolary) glas-heating-thingy where the coil is underneath a glas-board. Very ineffective and it doesnt feel especially safe, i believe the coals leaves minor marks after lots of uses + that ive heard someone say their glas got screwed up (which must be BS considering the coals temperature vs glas melting point but...) I have heard that the heat from the coals can make the glass tops shatter/crack. It doesn't have the reach the melting point for it to break. Keep thay in mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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