mushrat Posted March 4, 2006 Share Posted March 4, 2006 My local Spencers doesn't seem to have MYA stuff anymore.... I know someone else mentioned the same thing in a post not long ago... This a local ordinance/mall rules problem I wonder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yashman19 Posted March 4, 2006 Share Posted March 4, 2006 Hmm, when did you first notice this? I remember seeing Mya products at my malls spencer's right before christmas. Just pointing this out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny_Z Posted March 4, 2006 Share Posted March 4, 2006 Hmm... might be a local law problem, but I'd guess that more then likely they are just out of stock for the time being. I recall seeing an acrylic base MYA at the Spencers in one of my local malls about a month or so ago I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushrat Posted March 4, 2006 Author Share Posted March 4, 2006 Hmm..i try to stay clear of the mall if i can...but they had it about a month ago..now even the display is gone... I'm inclined to agree johnny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JByer323 Posted March 4, 2006 Share Posted March 4, 2006 I can check at my mall if you'd like, see if they have it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghunfrytimma Posted March 4, 2006 Share Posted March 4, 2006 are u guys referring to spencers gift store? because if so..i didnt remember them carrying any type of hookah products in my area.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted March 4, 2006 Share Posted March 4, 2006 I heard that they were having problems with people thinking they're for smoking marijuana (weed).This isn't the original story I read but it is something along those lines:[url="http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/2006/02/02/news/local/states/pennsylvania/counties/philadelphia_county/philadelphia/13769238.htm"] http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/2006/02.../news/local/sta[/url] tes/pennsylvania/counties/philadelphia_county/philadelphia/1 3769238.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dizzing Posted March 4, 2006 Share Posted March 4, 2006 hmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushrat Posted March 4, 2006 Author Share Posted March 4, 2006 Ya, that's what I figured. Harrassment. Oh well, was fun while it lasted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennmon Posted March 4, 2006 Share Posted March 4, 2006 [url="http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v06/n139/a07.html?999"]http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v06/n139/a07.html?999[/url] there is your answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JByer323 Posted March 4, 2006 Share Posted March 4, 2006 You know, I hate to say this, but perhaps it's best. When people see hookahs at places like that and headshops, they think that the only thing they are used for is marijuana. Unfortanatly because of ignorance, it's a common misconception.The convenience was nice, but you has to ask yourself, is this the type of PR that we really need for our hobby/lifestyle?Just thinking out loud, but it'd be curious on your thoughts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dizzing Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 hey, people can think what they want. it's not like people DONT use hookahs for grass. it's deluded to think that they're not used for that, despite what some people may like to tell themselves. and the convenience for me far outweighed anything else. where else am i going to be able to get mya bowls and hoses for like a dollar above what they charge on their website? nowhere, unless i order them off the net, pay shipping, and wait a few days. weed is ILLEGAL. therefore, it's pointless to ban hookahs. it's the same thing with gun control. MURDER IS ILLEGAL. so banning guns? redundant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JByer323 Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 You know, I really, really like your logic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuschultz Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 I saw hookahs in my Spencers this past summer, but I havent been in one in awhile. I can check if needed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonthert Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 Yeah, intent is everything. I have to side with the law on this one, lets trot out some examples, see if they are appropriate:"Buy X Brand condoms, because when you have sex with your cousin, you don't want to risk an unplanned pregnancy!""Is your spouse annoying you? Are your children out of control? Do you really think the charge for putting your dog to sleep is reasonable? Are you tired of life yourself? Buy an X brand gun and end your problems!""Hook up to X brand high-speed internet, so your children can have the fastest porno downloads possible."Having sex with your cousin isn't illegal in most states, in fact, more than 2/3 of the 50 states, its legal to marry your cousin. Is it reasoanble or appropriate to sell condoms with the "irreverant" notion that your cousin getting pregnant could be prevented? Should it be legal for a store owner to sell syringes to man who comes in and says" I want to shoot up some scag, sell me some heroine needles." You expressed an illegal intent for the purchase, I can't (or even morally shouldn't) sell it to you. Despite the medical evidence otherwise, the philosophy of the law is that marijuana is a dangerous narcotic and the idea of selling something with the background theme of drugs is absurd, in my opinion. You are asking to get jerked and you SHOULD. No offense, Diz, you know I respect you a lot. We know people have sex with their cousins, we know that getting pregnant from their cousin is embarrassing, so why shouldn't we advertise it? Its not even illegal (in California anyways). Smoking marijuana is. The difference is when they put up a sign and say "Smoke grass" and put hookahs under it, they are expressing an illegal and inappropriate intention. Likewise, appropriately, if I put a basket of apples under the sign "Try smoking weed out of an apple". Those apples would be in violation of the law, as well. As a side point, I understand the prospect of getting a big retail-chain customer is exciting, but shame on you Mya! I could only hope that you didn't know how they intended to market your products. The very idea of somebody smoking weed out of a Mya makes me a little nauseous and depressed, honestly. All that being said, legalize it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dizzing Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 well, at my spencers, there was no sign anywhere near the hookahs that said "smoke grass"...spencers' sells lots of signs, some of which might say that, but they definitely were nowhere near the hookahs. :-and if the employees at that store were telling undercover cops how to smoke pot out of the hookahs, well, those employees should be at fault.*shrug* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mopower84 Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 Howdy all, I have a good friend that works for Spencers Gifts here in Raliegh NC.Here is the deal with the MYA products being taken off the shelves.It is illegal to advertise a hookah or any other smoking devise for the purpose of smoking illegal substances. When Spencer's got the MYA's in stock, all employees nation wide were told to of this law and basically told if they make any reference to illegal substances they would be promptly fired.Well this one jackass in, I think PA, thought it would be funny to put up a sign about smoking weed. Spencer's got busted and they are now in a heaping ton of legal troubles. If the Feds push hard enough they can actually put the whole corperation out of business. Spencer's Gifts has pulled all MYA products off the shelves until the legal problems are taken care of. My friend als said she heard talk of having to send all of the Mya stuff back to the warehouse as well, so I don't think this matter will be cleared up soon. I'm still trying to get her to just sell me a hose.This is a perfect example of one jackass that disrespects the hookah, screwing things up for the rest of us. I was saving up for a MYA too, as my friend was willing to hook me up with her discount.On the bright side of things, you just know that the Jackass is gonna get sued, and sued hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonthert Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 Bucking fastards.I am beyond words. This country is really screwed up in a lot of ways. I would also be surprised to find that the government could jack the corporate umbrella, so duck, reorganize and move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mopower84 Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 [quote name='Tangiers']Bucking fastards.[/quote]LMAO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JByer323 Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 [quote name='Tangiers']Bucking fastards.I am beyond words. This country is really screwed up in a lot of ways. I would also be surprised to find that the government could jack the corporate umbrella, so duck, reorganize and move on. [/quote] And all of God's childrend said "Amen". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougBurns Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 I too bought a MYA hose at Spencer's before that whole shebang went down. It was really nice and convenient and I'm not sure I would've gotten one otherwise (Just had trouble rationalizing all that shipping for a little hose). I think this really boils down to misinformation. I was an RA for my college dorms a year ago and I saw some kids out in the parking lot smoking a hookah and the first thing I thought was pot (this was before I had smoked and was ignorant). I talked to some of the other RAs and found out they were smoking tobacco out of it and realized the error of my ways. Also, I was at a party with my girlfriend and they started smoking hookah and I was very excited to give it a try. However she was just like myself and assumed it was pot and was hesitant to let me try it until she understood. I think this is the case with the majority of America...you see a hookah, you think pot. This is incredibly unfortunate and I think we're all doing our best to educate those around us about its history and intended use but it's going to be a long while until it's recognized as a cultural instrument and not drug paraphenalia. Also, I think a big problem with this situation is misguided employees. If you stick a wage slave in a store full of pot posters etc, and then one day stick a hookah on a shelf, this only strengthens their misconceptions. What needed to happen was some sort of training video or materials to come out about the new products they were selling. However, I'm sure this was deemed to not be cost efficient and cut from the rollout of the MYA products. It's sad that corporate America would rather save a few bucks and tarnish a deeply rooted cultural tradition instead of informing employees and selling something of great convenience. Sorry for such a long post/rant but I'm just bored at work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunsboy Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 I smoked hookah on the waterfront with some buddies. 10 minutes later, a cop car showed up. And they opened the foil - ruined my smoke - and started smelling it to make sure it is not Weed. In the end, I told him to join us for a session of hookah he said "I do not do stuff like this ..." So I asked him if he drinks and if he smokes cigars. He said Yes but yet he will not try a shisha - on the job - What a guy ! Even if I was going to smoke weed, I would not have done it on the Waterfront ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonthert Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 San Diego cops are remarkably cool about it, when smoking outside, cops would come up and we'd say hookah and they'd say OK and walk off. The only time I got nailed is when smoking on the beach, they gave me a ticket for "glass on the beach". That was a little jerked, but understandable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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