What's The Point Of The Scalis Mod Exactly?

[TigerLord]

I got it with the MNH small glass phunnel and glass screen.

I use foil now because the screen is a bitch to clean. Baking soda in boiling water for 15min will clean it easily but it's such a huge hassle that foil goes way faster.

But the scalis mod? If I smoke solo I use it because it takes about 75% of the space so I use less tobacco, but I remember reading its suppose make the smoke smoother?

Inquiring mind wants to know...

[mitchard]

Its supposed to add more flavor to the smoke, by forcing airflow directly through the shisha rather than losing some down the hole.


I have never noticed a difference.

[Stuie]

Originally...Scalli can correct me if I am wrong.

It was called the "Scalliwag Shisha Saver" shortened to "Scalli Mod"

So improving flavor was a secondary effect.

[AKammenzind]

I've never had a difference taste or smoke-wise, but it does allow you to use like half the shisha you normally would so it's a keeper in my book.

On my buddy's small chinese phunnel the tealight mod actually allows us to use like 1/3 of the shisha we would otherwise.

[NarghileNights]

isn't it almost impossible to correctly load tangiers with a scalli mod?

[Stuie]

I never had a problem with it.

[NarghileNights]

but with tangiers, you do not want any gaps in the shisha, allowing for more airflow.

air is a poor conductor of heat and does not allow tangiers to get to the proper temp. with a scalli mod, aren't you losing the capability to pack tangiers tight enough to remove any space for air?

in fact, you must load it so that air can make it through to the bottom - totally losing the "proper" way to load tangiers.

[ebarnes02]

I used a tea-lite mod way back when i only had a large phunnel, saved me a hell of a lot of tobacco considering how freaking huge that bowl is.

[Stuie]

People say you can't do it, maybe I just have the touch, when I first got here people said you couldn't smoke tangiers in anything but a phunnel, but Canon taught me how to do it out of my hemi and used that for 3 months before buying a bowl.

I rarely use the scalli, except when I don't have enough for a small phunnel worth. I pack it tight like MDL does and I haven't had a problem.

The air pocket created is behind the glass, so the tobacco is surrounded by ceramic, glass and foil all insulators. I suspect people just aren't putting enough tobacco in.

[Scoop]

People say you can't do it, maybe I just have the touch, when I first got here people said you couldn't smoke tangiers in anything but a phunnel, but Canon taught me how to do it out of my hemi and used that for 3 months before buying a bowl.

I rarely use the scalli, except when I don't have enough for a small phunnel worth. I pack it tight like MDL does and I haven't had a problem.

The air pocket created is behind the glass, so the tobacco is surrounded by ceramic, glass and foil all insulators. I suspect people just aren't putting enough tobacco in.

the tangiers phunnel was made after the tobacco so of course it was smoked in something other than a phunnel originally. the phunnel was just designed for the tobacco in mind.

the scalli is useless imo. pain to clean, no improvement in performance for me personally

[Stuie]

the tangiers phunnel was made after the tobacco so of course it was smoked in something other than a phunnel originally. the phunnel was just designed for the tobacco in mind.

I know that now scoop, but when I was a noob asking questions people told me it couldn't be done and buy a phunnel. I even remember canon commenting on it at my house.

[SimplexCoda]

I can be corrected if im wrong but i also believe the intended purpose was to take up space in the bowl, so any performance enhancements would be secondary. I personaly never got any enhancement out of it, but it deffenantly takes up room so i use less tobacco.

[Scoop]

the tangiers phunnel was made after the tobacco so of course it was smoked in something other than a phunnel originally. the phunnel was just designed for the tobacco in mind.

I know that now scoop, but when I was a noob asking questions people told me it couldn't be done and buy a phunnel. I even remember canon commenting on it at my house.

ah ok...wait, youre not a noob now? lol kidding of course

[Fluffy]

Scalimods serv 3 purposes

1. to take less space
2. on some phunnels if you suck to hard on the foil, the foil itself gets sucked over the phunnel
3 on mnh funnels the glass screen can only be used on the phunnel if the scali is in place because the hole in the screen and the hole on the phunnel line up so smoke dont go throgh the tobacco

i use scalli mods with tangiers all the time and have noticed no difference.

[SimplexCoda]

Scalimods serv 3 purposes

1. to take less space
2. on some phunnels if you suck to hard on the foil, the foil itself gets sucked over the phunnel
3 on mnh funnels the glass screen can only be used on the phunnel if the scali is in place because the hole in the screen and the hole on the phunnel line up so smoke dont go throgh the tobacco

i use scalli mods with tangiers all the time and have noticed no difference.

Number 3 is absolutly not true. I use the glass screen on a phunnel all the time with out a mod and it works just as good as with the mod.

[AKammenzind]

the scalli is useless imo. pain to clean, no improvement in performance for me personally

I must agree with everything but calling it useless. Personally I'd never buy an actual scalli mod simply because it's not worth my time cleaning it. Tealights and foil on the other hand are disposable, and very cheap so that's not an issue for me. And there really isn't an improvement in performance, but it hasn't hurt my sessions any, and does allow me to use much less shisha... and that's money in my pocket.

[Johnny_D]

It's -ing Awesome because it came from the brain of the one, the only, The Scalliwag!

Mine was hand-forged in the fire of goodness by the man himself.

Frodo can shove his ring up his ass. I have the Scallimod

JD - Frofing at the mouth /FANBOI

ps... it makes the smoke teh betters!

[Scalliwag]

You crank me up JD
Okay, I'm a bit of a physics buff so I drew I diagram. A couple of basics on airflow and heat. Airflow takes the least path of resistance. Heat tries to rise, but will travel with airflow. It also heats whatever it comes into contact with in it travel.
With those basics in mind this is where the diagram comes in. On the diagram to the left there is a phunnel with no mod. If you follow the red line that represents the air flow. Without the mod the airflow goes across the top of the shisha and into the hole. The heat does radiate beyond the air path. So shisha still gets hot as well as the bowl is heating up as well. With Tangiers you want a lower temp to get a good smoke.

In the second pic there is the mod. It is blocking the hole at the top and forcing the airflow to travel through the shisha the same way a regular bowl works except it redirects the smoke back up and into the hole. Again the only difference with the mod as far a the air going through the shisha is where it exits the bowl. Liquid does not like going uphill so it tends to stay behind so the juice stays in the bowl longer.

As far as results verying well that is no different than any other thing on the forum. Some people swear there is no way to get Tangiers to smoke good but alot of us know that while they indeed may not have got it yet does not mean it does not work.
There are lots of variables setting up and smoking hookahs. We all know that. Temperature, humidity, quality of shisha, how loose/tight you pack, hole pattern, foil or screen, type and amount of coal, how "ready" the coal is when you put it on.

I have not had good luck smoking Tangiers with a mod. My best setup for smoking Tangs is setting it up the same as any other but without a mod. Firing up the coals and putting them on. Take a good hit to perk them up and then let it sit about 5 minutes. My theory is that the bowl preheats and gets the Tangs good and warm but not toasty.
If I do that I get the best taste ever.

I still have to try the washed Tangs. The nicotine beats my ass so fast I can't really enjoy it for long periods of time like I like.

Well there ya have it folks. Whether you like it, dislike it, that's the lowdown on the design. I think if you read the first two paragraphs as you look at the diagram you will at least agree with the physics. Once you get the concept down on anything it helps give you ideas on how to utilize it better. Edited February 9, 2009 by Scalliwag