Choosing My New Hookah

[echotc]

So my birthday is at the end of the month and I convinced my mom to buy me my second hookah. I was fine with one, but I blame hookah forum for fueling my obsession. So I've been looking around, I already own a Mya gyro, and I think a KM is the way to go.

Really I haven't made up my mind. The only things that matter
-less than $160.
-not blue (the mya is blue)
-cool vase (some KMs have paint jobs I don't like)

These are my top picks

Khalil Mamoon Double Pear Green 38"
http://www.thehookah.com/khalil-mamoon-dou...ah-38-inch.html

Khalil Maamoon 32" M3 Isis Hookah Red
http://mnhookahs.com/product_info.php?cPat...products_id=214

Khalil Mamoon Exotica Green/Silver38"
http://www.thehookah.com/khalil-mamoon-exotica-gs-38.html

Khalil Mamoon Ice 31"
http://www.thehookah.com/khalil-mamoon-small-ice-31.html

What do you think of KMs? Does the KM ice actually work or is putting ice in the vase better? Aren't they pimp?

Tabitha

[Hippo_Master]

KM Ice!

[chinamon]

ice hookahs dont really do much... at least not as much as they claim to do.
get the isis trimetal.

[Click]

I vote the Exotica or M3 Isis

[joytron]

isis!

[Hippo_Master]

Oh I didn;t see this Isis.

I retract my Ice approval, and now Approve the Isis, hands down. It's the best outta all those.

[Kapten Kanel]

Argh not the issue with ice buckets again For me it makes alot of difference, loads of ice in base + bucket = smoke so cold its unpleasant
So, for me it does make a difference but i cant say its worth it, kinda depends on if you believe the bucket looks nice anyway etc...

[indian_villager]

I love the looks of the Ice. I could tell even without owning one that it wouldn't do much for cooling. I just saw a trimetal in person and those things are great. So I'd say the Ice or the trimetal.....Imagine an trimetal ice....that would be porn.

[echotc]

So I'd say the Ice or the trimetal.....Imagine an trimetal ice....that would be porn.

hahahahaha yeah i think so.

[Kapten Kanel]

I love the looks of the Ice. I could tell even without owning one that it wouldn't do much for cooling. I just saw a trimetal in person and those things are great. So I'd say the Ice or the trimetal.....Imagine an trimetal ice....that would be porn.

The trimetal sucks, i can tell even though ive never owned one... We should make a thread about this ice bucket issue, i swear i does make a very noticable difference but i use ALOT of ice, almost so the ashtray cant fit, i also add some cold water (this may be stupid but it feels like the cold "transfers" faster).

[MeHT]

Get a signature if possible. It be sexay!

[echotc]

Get a signature if possible. It be sexay!

It would be sexy, if I could find one

[Hippo_Master]

Get a signature if possible. It be sexay!

It would be sexy, if I could find one

Hint: ebay.

[Hippo_Master]

http://cgi.ebay.com/KHALIL-MAMOON-Authenti...id=p4634.c0.m14

[dafunk5446]

My vote would be this guy- http://www.thehookah.com/khalil-mamoon-hea...al-33-inch.html

So sexy....mmmmmmm

I got a dual tone HOL on the way, couldnt afford this bad boy otherwise it would be mine!

I really liked the isis, till I saw this, without the silver splitting up the gold, copper, brass accents it kinda looks funny

[echotc]

http://www.thehookah.com/khalil-mamoon-hea...al-33-inch.html
http://cgi.ebay.com/KHALIL-MAMOON-Authenti...id=p4634.c0.m14

ok these two make the list too, I like the plain vase of the 33 inch trimetal. Very nice Edited February 19, 2009 by echotc

[dafunk5446]

the tri HOL is sexier

[indian_villager]

I love the looks of the Ice. I could tell even without owning one that it wouldn't do much for cooling. I just saw a trimetal in person and those things are great. So I'd say the Ice or the trimetal.....Imagine an trimetal ice....that would be porn.

The trimetal sucks, i can tell even though ive never owned one... We should make a thread about this ice bucket issue, i swear i does make a very noticable difference but i use ALOT of ice, almost so the ashtray cant fit, i also add some cold water (this may be stupid but it feels like the cold "transfers" faster).

Simply put the ice bucket and its contents are not in direct contact with the center tube therefore is unable to transfer energy effectively. All it does is it cools the voidspace between the downtube and the spun steel piece in the bucket. If you look at the chillers offered at hookah-shisha.com the icebucket's contents are directly in contact with the downtube therefore will be able to make a noticable change.

[echotc]

I think its a trimetal toss up.

mhhookahs
http://mnhookahs.com/product_info.php?cPat...products_id=214

the hookahs
http://www.thehookah.com/khalil-mamoon-hea...al-33-inch.html

there is a significant difference in price, but it think i like the vase and hose on the heart of lion more.

I don't know, its hard to see the vase on the isis but i'm sure its pretty

[Kapten Kanel]

I love the looks of the Ice. I could tell even without owning one that it wouldn't do much for cooling. I just saw a trimetal in person and those things are great. So I'd say the Ice or the trimetal.....Imagine an trimetal ice....that would be porn.

The trimetal sucks, i can tell even though ive never owned one... We should make a thread about this ice bucket issue, i swear i does make a very noticable difference but i use ALOT of ice, almost so the ashtray cant fit, i also add some cold water (this may be stupid but it feels like the cold "transfers" faster).

Simply put the ice bucket and its contents are not in direct contact with the center tube therefore is unable to transfer energy effectively. All it does is it cools the voidspace between the downtube and the spun steel piece in the bucket. If you look at the chillers offered at hookah-shisha.com the icebucket's contents are directly in contact with the downtube therefore will be able to make a noticable change.

Ofc it would be more effective if the bucket actually touched the inner tube but really, saying the effect is negligible and unnoticeable because of the fact that it doesnt is, well... The whole stem gets really cold after a few minutes, believe me, it does make a very noticeable difference. Hmmm... this is kinda a dead end, nobody can prove anything, i dont mean to sound harsch but you kinda just wrote off my opinion. In the end this isnt really important anyway, ice in the base is enough, lets just enjoy hookah and this forum as we should Edited February 19, 2009 by Kapten Kanel

[Hippo_Master]

I love the looks of the Ice. I could tell even without owning one that it wouldn't do much for cooling. I just saw a trimetal in person and those things are great. So I'd say the Ice or the trimetal.....Imagine an trimetal ice....that would be porn.

The trimetal sucks, i can tell even though ive never owned one... We should make a thread about this ice bucket issue, i swear i does make a very noticable difference but i use ALOT of ice, almost so the ashtray cant fit, i also add some cold water (this may be stupid but it feels like the cold "transfers" faster).

Simply put the ice bucket and its contents are not in direct contact with the center tube therefore is unable to transfer energy effectively. All it does is it cools the voidspace between the downtube and the spun steel piece in the bucket. If you look at the chillers offered at hookah-shisha.com the icebucket's contents are directly in contact with the downtube therefore will be able to make a noticable change.

Ofc it would be more effective if the bucket actually touched the inner tube but really, saying the effect is negligible and unnoticeable because of the fact that it doesnt is, well... The whole stem gets really cold after a few minutes, believe me, it does make a very noticeable difference. Hmmm... this is kinda a dead end, nobody can prove anything, i dont mean to sound harsch but you kinda just wrote off my opinion. In the end this isnt really important anyway, ice in the base is enough, lets just enjoy hookah and this forum as we should

The whole stem doesn't get cold... I have a Mash'al, it only is cold in the area of the ice chamber. 3 inches below that is not cold, and above it it's of course not cold because I use a windcover. The ice water does not touch the inner core at all, as stated. Even if it did, the whole core all the way down would have to be completely FREEZING. You pull the smoke through the stem very quickly, so it barely has any time to touch lose that much heat to the point where you can't inhale because it's too cold.

I will bet you that the smoke never goes below 32 degrees to the point of being uncomfortable.

[Kapten Kanel]

I love the looks of the Ice. I could tell even without owning one that it wouldn't do much for cooling. I just saw a trimetal in person and those things are great. So I'd say the Ice or the trimetal.....Imagine an trimetal ice....that would be porn.

The trimetal sucks, i can tell even though ive never owned one... We should make a thread about this ice bucket issue, i swear i does make a very noticable difference but i use ALOT of ice, almost so the ashtray cant fit, i also add some cold water (this may be stupid but it feels like the cold "transfers" faster).

Simply put the ice bucket and its contents are not in direct contact with the center tube therefore is unable to transfer energy effectively. All it does is it cools the voidspace between the downtube and the spun steel piece in the bucket. If you look at the chillers offered at hookah-shisha.com the icebucket's contents are directly in contact with the downtube therefore will be able to make a noticable change.

Ofc it would be more effective if the bucket actually touched the inner tube but really, saying the effect is negligible and unnoticeable because of the fact that it doesnt is, well... The whole stem gets really cold after a few minutes, believe me, it does make a very noticeable difference. Hmmm... this is kinda a dead end, nobody can prove anything, i dont mean to sound harsch but you kinda just wrote off my opinion. In the end this isnt really important anyway, ice in the base is enough, lets just enjoy hookah and this forum as we should

The whole stem doesn't get cold... I have a Mash'al, it only is cold in the area of the ice chamber. 3 inches below that is not cold, and above it it's of course not cold because I use a windcover. The ice water does not touch the inner core at all, as stated. Even if it did, the whole core all the way down would have to be completely FREEZING. You pull the smoke through the stem very quickly, so it barely has any time to touch lose that much heat to the point where you can't inhale because it's too cold.

I will bet you that the smoke never goes below 32 degrees to the point of being uncomfortable.

Well, then we have some super ice in sweden Seriously now, my stem (lol...) does get cold (its still very noticeable even down at the heart) and so does the smoke, i have smoked enough times with my KM to know the difference. Maybe our stems are made of different metals, my stem is much more lightweight than i thought it would be, nowhere near a MYA stem. It probably wouldnt make a big difference but give me a break, im trying to find some answers here

[echotc]

I love the looks of the Ice. I could tell even without owning one that it wouldn't do much for cooling. I just saw a trimetal in person and those things are great. So I'd say the Ice or the trimetal.....Imagine an trimetal ice....that would be porn.

The trimetal sucks, i can tell even though ive never owned one... We should make a thread about this ice bucket issue, i swear i does make a very noticable difference but i use ALOT of ice, almost so the ashtray cant fit, i also add some cold water (this may be stupid but it feels like the cold "transfers" faster).

Simply put the ice bucket and its contents are not in direct contact with the center tube therefore is unable to transfer energy effectively. All it does is it cools the voidspace between the downtube and the spun steel piece in the bucket. If you look at the chillers offered at hookah-shisha.com the icebucket's contents are directly in contact with the downtube therefore will be able to make a noticable change.

Ofc it would be more effective if the bucket actually touched the inner tube but really, saying the effect is negligible and unnoticeable because of the fact that it doesnt is, well... The whole stem gets really cold after a few minutes, believe me, it does make a very noticeable difference. Hmmm... this is kinda a dead end, nobody can prove anything, i dont mean to sound harsch but you kinda just wrote off my opinion. In the end this isnt really important anyway, ice in the base is enough, lets just enjoy hookah and this forum as we should

The whole stem doesn't get cold... I have a Mash'al, it only is cold in the area of the ice chamber. 3 inches below that is not cold, and above it it's of course not cold because I use a windcover. The ice water does not touch the inner core at all, as stated. Even if it did, the whole core all the way down would have to be completely FREEZING. You pull the smoke through the stem very quickly, so it barely has any time to touch lose that much heat to the point where you can't inhale because it's too cold.

I will bet you that the smoke never goes below 32 degrees to the point of being uncomfortable.

Well, then we have some super ice in sweden Seriously now, my stem (lol...) does get cold (its still very noticeable even down at the heart) and so does the smoke, i have smoked enough times with my KM to know the difference. Maybe our stems are made of different metals, my stem is much more lightweight than i thought it would be, nowhere near a MYA stem. It probably wouldnt make a big difference but give me a break, im trying to find some answers here

I'm sure it has a lot to do with how you set it up. Just putting ice in the bowl would not work nearly as well as adding cold water and salt.

[hookah hippie]

Go for the KM ice I have one and love it

[Hippo_Master]

I love the looks of the Ice. I could tell even without owning one that it wouldn't do much for cooling. I just saw a trimetal in person and those things are great. So I'd say the Ice or the trimetal.....Imagine an trimetal ice....that would be porn.

The trimetal sucks, i can tell even though ive never owned one... We should make a thread about this ice bucket issue, i swear i does make a very noticable difference but i use ALOT of ice, almost so the ashtray cant fit, i also add some cold water (this may be stupid but it feels like the cold "transfers" faster).

Simply put the ice bucket and its contents are not in direct contact with the center tube therefore is unable to transfer energy effectively. All it does is it cools the voidspace between the downtube and the spun steel piece in the bucket. If you look at the chillers offered at hookah-shisha.com the icebucket's contents are directly in contact with the downtube therefore will be able to make a noticable change.

Ofc it would be more effective if the bucket actually touched the inner tube but really, saying the effect is negligible and unnoticeable because of the fact that it doesnt is, well... The whole stem gets really cold after a few minutes, believe me, it does make a very noticeable difference. Hmmm... this is kinda a dead end, nobody can prove anything, i dont mean to sound harsch but you kinda just wrote off my opinion. In the end this isnt really important anyway, ice in the base is enough, lets just enjoy hookah and this forum as we should

The whole stem doesn't get cold... I have a Mash'al, it only is cold in the area of the ice chamber. 3 inches below that is not cold, and above it it's of course not cold because I use a windcover. The ice water does not touch the inner core at all, as stated. Even if it did, the whole core all the way down would have to be completely FREEZING. You pull the smoke through the stem very quickly, so it barely has any time to touch lose that much heat to the point where you can't inhale because it's too cold.

I will bet you that the smoke never goes below 32 degrees to the point of being uncomfortable.

Well, then we have some super ice in sweden Seriously now, my stem (lol...) does get cold (its still very noticeable even down at the heart) and so does the smoke, i have smoked enough times with my KM to know the difference. Maybe our stems are made of different metals, my stem is much more lightweight than i thought it would be, nowhere near a MYA stem. It probably wouldnt make a big difference but give me a break, im trying to find some answers here

In my experience the Mya stem conducts heat extremely well, I have ventured out and smoked outside in 15 degree weather (ugh, one of the worst sessions) and the Mya stem was too hot to touch almost down to the heart. The Mash'al has a brass core, so maybe that has something to do with it?

Your experince is your experince though, so I can't tell you that you are getting super-cold smoke! Which to me sounds freakin sweet.

The ice chamber, everytime I have loaded it, does not cool down the smoke, only the outside of the stem. I find it to be useless, but I like the way it looks, and sometimes just load it up for my friends' sakes.